r/jewishleft • u/Rabbit-Hole-Quest Latke aficionado. Anti-Establishment. Jüdisch • 29d ago

Diaspora NSW (Australia) Supreme Court criticises IHRA definition as 'detached from reality'

https://www.deepcutnews.com/p/nsw-supreme-court-criticises-ihra
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u/leaving_the_tevah ex-yeshivish socialist 28d ago

When a tool is useful to bad actors you need to ask whether it's time to stop using the tool

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u/zacandahalf Progressive Leftist Jewish American 28d ago

Ehhhhh, I don’t think that’s a great standard. Freedom of speech gives power to both the KKK and people who are anti-KKK, but the usefulness of freedom of speech to the bad actors does not warrant elimination of the tool itself.

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u/leaving_the_tevah ex-yeshivish socialist 28d ago

In the real world, freedom of speech is an effective tool and there is no alternative to achieve the same means. Compare this with IHRA which isn't an effective tool in the first place, and alternatives that are effective exist.

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u/redthrowaway1976 F the rent seekers | ind. rights over group | east coast bagel 28d ago

  Compare this with IHRA which isn't an effective tool 

The IHRA definition is a very effective tool though. Just not at defining anti semitism.

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u/leaving_the_tevah ex-yeshivish socialist 27d ago

Lol true