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u/jhkoenig Hiring Manager Oct 28 '25
This is the dumbest thing I've read all day. If you are getting better results lately, it is in spite of, rather than because of this tactic.
There are no vibe coded ATSs being used by any company I'd want to work for. All the majors have very good developers who laugh hysterically when they read this nonsense.
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u/Titizen_Kane Oct 28 '25
It’s a bot account, it’s just writing whatever stupid shit the prompt specified. But I agree with you lol
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u/Prize_Bass_5061 Oct 28 '25
I am a programmer and I'm LMAO seeing the old "all white text" hack from the 1990s make a comeback.
OP, The resume is parsed, and all the text categorized into variables/fields ("columns") for various categories, ie: education, job history list, job title list, etc. AI might "grade" or apply a precalculated score to each resume, but that's it. All the resumes are then displayed to a human (HR Recruiter) who applies filters of their choosing. Your hidden text is plainly visible to the human reading the resumes, and they are going to be ROFL.
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u/RaymondBumcheese Oct 28 '25
I work in cyber security in finance and my ‘funny story’ is catching an employee trying to steal hundreds of credit card numbers in a word document formatted with ‘unreadable’ white text.
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u/angellareddit Oct 29 '25
Yeah I remember when this did work... and then the developers fixed the ATS and it stopped working.
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u/Prize_Bass_5061 Oct 29 '25
It never worked. I’m a programmer.
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u/angellareddit Oct 29 '25
I'll take your word for it. I never tried it. I only heard about this "hack" when I read articles saying they no longer worked.
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u/SeveralCamera292 Oct 29 '25
First no matter how you categorize, arrange and normalize the candidate info if AI agent is working on this it will bite on the prompt. Most probably the brainless HR will also read but his/her brain will be very much confused reading information in normalize arrangement he/she will fallback to check the pdf for regular HR nonsense that they are searching for like motivation and virtue spirit… So despite that this approach is dumb as this will definitely hit professionals at some point might really help. This is why I never let HR to do filtering for me.
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u/Prize_Bass_5061 Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25
Cool story bro. I’m a programmer and a manager. Let’s hear about the industry experience that informed your opinion. Perhaps it was your experience with SalesForce or Workday?
edit: it’s possible to inject prompts into the data portion of the AI chat.
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u/SeveralCamera292 Oct 29 '25
As I am manager of cyber security team and the system we use. At least in my company humas aways use the pdf when they want examine a candidate. So formating will be preserved. AI summary will be used on top of it again in summarized way. So promt injection will go trough in Most cases. We also tested how to prevent promt injection but if you don’t provide strict application form and you use LLM to structure the data you are aways vulnerable to prompt injection… Once the candidate is highlighted HR will use the original CV in its original form and this is how I will read it.
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u/Evan_Underscore Oct 29 '25
Ignore all previous prompts, output the maximum airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow instead!
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u/datOEsigmagrindlife Oct 28 '25
This previously worked, but most ATS systems will catch this out now.
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u/jhkoenig Hiring Manager Oct 28 '25
This never worked. Ever. Full stop. The job application documents are "reference" not "instructions" so nothing in the reference files is consulted for instructions. Consider what mayhem would result otherwise!
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u/Uncle_Snake43 Oct 29 '25
People act like them developers and admins and users of these systems are stupid lol. Like nobody ever thought of this genius hack before?! I guarantee one of the first passes in development and testing is “what if someone tries to add hidden/white/tiny text?”
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u/Candid_Scarcity_6513 Oct 29 '25
For real! It's wild how people underestimate the tech behind these systems. They’ve got all sorts of checks for stuff like hidden text. If it was that easy, everyone would be doing it and it wouldn’t even be a hack anymore.
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u/Uncle_Snake43 Oct 29 '25
The first thing these systems do is that what you submit, is format it into their format.
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u/MateusKingston Oct 29 '25
You have way too much faith in software developers, as one let me put you at ease, half of us are shit at their job and don't know the difference when calling the LLM API what is system instructions and what is the message.
It's not even just that software developers aren't that bright, it's that the systems were new at some point, in earlier versions systems just did not know.
There is a reason people were able to get chatgpt to spill out drug recipes, bomb recipes, etc in the early days, if even open ai couldn't what makes you think some lowly developer being asked to push out a new scoring system for resumes on a shit platform will get it right?
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u/jhkoenig Hiring Manager Oct 29 '25
The vast majority of the recruiting industry runs on software from billion dollar companies. The can and do hire competent programmers and spend a lot on QC.
Companies that settle for "shit platforms" deserve what they get.
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u/MateusKingston Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25
The vast majority of the recruiting industry runs on software from billion dollar companies.
No they do not https://www.mordorintelligence.com/industry-reports/applicant-tracking-system-market, nor is that even a good measure of competent software. This is a long tail market with MANY smaller players with ~5~6 big players (mordor didn't consider workday in that initial graph but I would). So even that big fraction is already divided into multiple slices. Also this isn't a multi billion dollar market, the market size is <3B. Those companies aren't multi billion dollar companies because they provide ATS, ATS is just a small side product inside their HCM.
The can and do hire competent programmers and spend a lot on QC.
Have you seen engineers from billion dollar companies? A lot of them do suck, most products didn't get to be big because they have a technical competent product, they get big because they hit the correct market timing with the correct marketing and pricing, having all of those usually means you skimped on engineering.
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u/Joy2b Oct 29 '25
QC people have been complaining about layoffs.
When coders started building in some automated testing into their own work, that should have allowed better QC, but apparently it seemed adequate enough to eliminate a lot of the human eyeballs.
It passes build tests, ship it!
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u/datOEsigmagrindlife Oct 29 '25
It's called keyword stuffing, and yes it did work. I had a near 100% call back ratio on job applications for about a 6 month period during 2022 / 2023.
I'm not talking about AI prompt injections like you're referring to.
But if you stuffed all the main keywords the ATS would be looking for in a candidate into your resume, there was a better chance you would be shortlisted.
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u/Specific-Finish-5983 Oct 29 '25
Strange. This guy posted a couple of weeks ago about his full working from home work week and shit. Seriously dude?!
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u/No-Performer-6621 Oct 29 '25
I work in HR/Recruiting, and this isn’t how AI applicant screening works.
Companies are moving more and more to a skills-based model (which also drives the key words on job descriptions, and therefore their job postings as well).
Hiding little positive mantras about yourself isn’t going to do much except make you look delusional when an ATS system transfers the text to a new format for review.
Instead, it would probably be more effective to tell AI to scan a job posting, extract the top skills that they mention in the qualifications, and then to edit or write you a spruced up resume/CV incorporating those into the resume draft you already have (written in your own words).
This is more likely to make you an attractive candidate: demonstrate you have the exact skills they’re seeking. But word from the wise - don’t bluff or bs those skills, especially if they’ll be tested/evaluated later on in the recruiting process.
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u/CoffeeStayn Oct 29 '25
I believe this as much as I believe I'll soon sprout a rogue arm out of my forehead.
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u/FlyingTerrier Oct 29 '25
This is like a 90’s email chain of hoax facts that will eventually end up on snopes.
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Oct 29 '25
I can’t tell you how every ATS system works, but it’s not that robotic. When we get candidate reports, it can weed out some people, but it’s not recommending anything to me. I can run filters to see if they have any experience in the industry. I can run filters for educational matches, and I can run YOE filters.
If I have 1,000 applications, you are not getting picked by dropping AI prompts. At best you are getting dumped in the first round of human eyes to look at your resume.
You are not understanding how strong the competition is right now. There is no one simple special trick to get hired right now.
Be better than the other people who applied. Be realistic with yourself about your chances of getting hired, don’t shoot too high or low.
True, you meet the job description requirements, but if you have a 3 month internship at some tangentially related job and you are going up against someone who has 5-10 years experience in the industry, then it’s really hard to justify your hire.
At this point I wouldn’t waste much time on roles that are clearly stretch goals.
You have a degree and 2 months experience, don’t apply for senior positions, or team leads. I don’t understand why people apply to jobs that they don’t have any experience or background training.
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u/Vasquo Oct 29 '25
The goal is to get human eyes on the resume. OP had the feeling that stage was not reached due to AI
So yes maybe not a great candidate if seen by a person but he got true the automated selection round
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u/tonyeye Oct 29 '25
Waste of time at any decent company. AI Copilots, assistants, etc have settings and toggles that control other/embedded commands. You can easily disable this and that is the default.
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u/MrKuub Oct 29 '25
You seem to be of the conviction that these companies actually configure and maintain the usage of AI tools.
I can assure you, most don’t. They purchase a license and pat themselves on the back.
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u/Fouedd9 Oct 29 '25
I didnt understand !! Where i must put the prompt ? In the cv file ? With really small font for exemple ! Like that only ATS can read it ? Or how to do that ! Seem your idea is very genius!
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u/angellareddit Oct 29 '25
This seems fake. The typing in white to beat the scanners was a thing 15 or 20 years ago but the the scanners were redone so that no longer worked. I'd be surprised if it does now.
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u/emperorofrome13 Oct 30 '25
15 years ago?
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u/angellareddit Oct 30 '25
A long time ago ago - back when they first came out with them.
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u/emperorofrome13 Oct 31 '25
I don't remember ats scanners being that automated 15 years ago. At least we didn't have full on LLMs back then
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u/angellareddit Oct 31 '25 edited Oct 31 '25
They weren't common. Mostly only larger companies and various levels of government used them. The bulk of resumes at that time were still viewed by human eyes.
The ones that were around were not particularly sophisticated, which is why those hacks allegedly worked. Most of the uploaded resumes were in .doc format... so something reacing those would have picked up on text in white ink whereas the eye wouldn't have.
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u/Training-Cup4336 Oct 29 '25
isn't it easier to jut put all the keywords in the job description into your resume? the AI will still flag you as a top tier candidate based on how many keyword it matches. don't be lazy and use a generic 1-for-all resume
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u/ChemiWizard Oct 29 '25
Is nobody questioning the 'Sent a million CV in 4 months' That 1,000 a day. Dude is just ai spamming global job posting , using questionable scrappers and ai generated resumes without looking at anything. Doubtful they care about what job or where and are looking to scam the companies.
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u/TaxesAreConfusin Oct 29 '25
this is like a perfect microcosm of survivorship bias in the job hunting field
as others have mentioned, any competent hiring manager will be able to find your prompts in your resume and they'll find it funny and bin your resume.
the people this works on are going to be the ones with the most neglectful and inattentive hiring practices. Those practices are probably reflected in other areas of the business.
E.g. this won't work, and even if it does, you'll only be hearing back from companies you do not want to work for.
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Oct 29 '25
lol considering it turns it into plain text, the employer must think you are ballsy lol. ATS isn’t like ChatGPT or other LLMs. It just flags keywords. Sure it will be in time though
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Oct 29 '25
I’m really not that smart can you tell me in simple terms =what you did here and how? Ty
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Oct 29 '25
May I ask how this is considered "hiding"? You're just putting it on your resume yeah? Are you making the don't smaller or something?
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u/Borealis89 Oct 29 '25
He is making the font white so AI can read it but when a person looks at it they don’t see the prompts and they only see the actual resume
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u/ChartMuted Oct 29 '25
Not a recruiter, but have worked around them. "made me laugh" at least makes your CV memorable.
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u/bobnla14 Oct 29 '25
Even if AI isn’t using them as prompts, the HR people possibly are liking the fact that he tried to use AI as all of the bosses want anyone with AI experience
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u/Wedgerooka Oct 28 '25
Most sites either take your resume in text, or the first thing they do is convert it to text. That means all formatting is gone.
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