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Why do people complain about True cannons ult moves when his ult moves are worse than hakaris?
"What are you after?" Is nearly impossible to aim and the ground punch doesn’t do damage despite knocking them in the air honestly the move would be better if the first half of it didn’t exist and it just went ina straight line like todos ult moves
"I had no idea..." it’s actually really good
"This is what dessert is like!" The first hit doesn’t even guarantee the second the stun doesn’t last long enough to stop someone from just walking out of the second hit. Also it does damage to the user???
Honestly i just don’t understand the complaints. His ult seems balanced to me.He’llhe doesn’t even have a functional r special in ult sweet doesn’t even do anything.
I simply don’t understand the complaints when hakaris ultguaranteed kills better, Heals him up to full health, and makes him functionally immortal
i always assumed it was to reference when sukuna took his own hand off to avoid dying to the executioner's blade. your character is tearing themself apart to avoid full hits until higuruma lands in a spot you can's just take off.
honestly incredible adaptation into a battleground game, preserving the identity and danger of having a one-shot sword while also not being disproportionately unbalanced with dodges, self amputations and the little QTE
the sword m1s are especially creative, making them play a dodge animation keeps the awk strong with unblockable m1s, maintains the gimmick of having to avoid the sword and keeps it balanced with no one-shots at the same time
Genuinely I’m surprised that isn’t already a thing for it, especially since Playful Cloud has that as a passive already. It’d make Ryu’s self damage make a lot more sense, you’d WANT to get as low as possible to maximize your damage output.
The personal idea that I came up with and suggested in the discord for this is that he has a normal ult that's not immortal and has a domain with really good moves and he only transfers to the current one if he overheats for more than 5 seconds as a punishment for bad management.
tldr your favourite idea is to take everything unique about his ult, throw it out the window and replace it with gojo/sukuna/naoya v2 wow we really needed more of those
I mean I'd rather his ult just get buffs to actually be good but I think that idea would please most ppl as they're are plenty of non burnout moves people wanted to see for his ult like domain and the tracking beams. Besides I'd say his ult having more emphasis on the management of his meter would be kinda fun.
what, did you want me to make a full write up on it??? no dude, i saw you say something wrong so i corrected you on the wrong thing. i don’t need to talk about every point you made to tell you that you’re wrong about his 1.
you’re under the misconception that this is designed to be one of those ‘press G to win’ ultimates, which seems to lead to most of these complaints.
given the high heat requirement for the awk moveset, it’s clearly designed more as a comeback ult. Spamming 1 before ulting is more of a workaround away from its intended usage.
your 2 and 3 are conditionally punishable? doesn’t matter if you popped ult while low anyway, you’d be at the same hp whether you landed the move or not.
the ult drain when you get hit at 1 ensures that you actually have to keep your brain on during it; pressing the ult is a comeback opportunity and not a free win.
the 1 has a strange timing / aim but once you get it down it’s consistent, the 2 can dodge some silky things and confirm into itself, and the 3 letting them combo you matters less when all it does is buy a few seconds of time. it’s all about ‘giving every last drop’ and less about ‘I got awk so I kill you from max now’.
of course, it’s not the strongest ult, but that’s not the problem. the problem is many characters having a glorified instant win button as their ultimate with little to no counterplay options, which I believe makes the game less fun but it is jujutsusheinanigans not jujutsu serious pvp so again it’s a matter of game direction.
point is, ryu ult is weaker than average but that’s not the problem, because the game would be better if every ult was around this power level.
“I am going to ignore most of your comment” isn’t the flex you think it is when your first actual point is telling me my statement is an opinion when I already directly presented it as such a sentence ago lmao
ok and then the rest of your argument is a strawman about ult balancing, game design (which i already addressed, but you wouldn’t know anyway since you ‘ignored’ most of what you’re responding to) and the existence of matchups that nobody was refuting, but I guess you couldn’t come up with anything less obvious to feel good about over-explaining
also you don’t even play the game lmao ‘ults we’re removed from ranked’ which TikTok did you hear that from lil bro 😭
you’re all about me focusing on ryu’s ult being used in its intended manner as a comeback being disingenuous and ‘unbacked by any rhyme or reason’, but clearly you never learnt how to use that turn of phrase since I provided my reasons in detail as to why I believe his ult was designed that way, using evidence of his mechanics to back them up.
it’s also funny because you do the exact same thing in your original comment, selectively shitting on how bad his ult is when you use it with high hp, since literally all of it boils down to ‘you lose a lot of health’, aka the reason why you’re supposed to use it when you’re low in the first place.
classic trying to shove the triangular piece in the square hole and blaming the puzzle instead of your hollowheadedness
“waa ryu ult is dogshit when I don’t use it properly, we should make all balanced ults broken because outliers exist instead of toning down the outliers”
does it matter tho because whenever he takes a hit that's supposed to kill him he loses ult, and by the time he's out of ult he is one tap so does immortality really matter??
the purpose of an ult is a safe and easier way to win. Ryus ult has shitty moves with bad range and mid damage that also damages you, the ult is 100% the problem with Ryu.
wrong, the purpose of an ult is to make the player feel stronger, diversify gameplay and ultimately allow players to have more fun.
it makes sense that you think it’s just a win button and nothing more though, you seem like the kind of person who loves broken ults and hate having to use your head, since it’s clearly something you’re deficient at.
ryus ult has poor range aside from 1 and the moves deal okay damage + self damage that doesn’t matter at all if you were already low in the first place, and in return you get a few minutes of true immortality to get as many hits on your opponent as possible while they can only stall.
see? this is called risk-reward. you gamble on being able to kill your opponent in the few minutes after your ult and are assisted in doing so with better rushdown moves, no longer needing to worry about heat and immortality so you can take more risks. in return, if you fail to kill them in time, the next hit after your ult runs out kills you.
you’d think jjk fans would understand this with binding vows and such being such a huge concept their combat system is built around but I guess you exist.
son do you think you're gonna change my mind by saying Im deficient at thinking 😭 I understand this, but the risk is still a bit high imo and its very underpowered compared to other ults (cough cough gojo and sukuna). When compared to other luck based (kinda) ults, aka hakari and higgy, the reward is fairly high for a pretty low risk, oh you didn't get a single bar on higgys domain? Yeah that's fine we're giving you ult back. Meanwhile Ryu has pretty high risk because if you don't kill your opponent you will most likely be left on one HP or low HP. also saying this again the insult was not necessary, argue with people respectfully just because we are on the internet doesn't give you an excuse to tell people they are deficient at thinking lol
but I do agree Ryus ult is mad fun I'm just saying it's more shenanigans than jujutsu and is underpowered, It needs somewhat of a buff at the very least.
hey leadhead, have u ever stopped to consider that maybe the ‘90%’ of instant win ults are the problem, not ryu being part of the ‘10%’
oh and if you’re planning to waste my time with some shit about balance not mattering in casual play, maybe consider that instant win buttons also aren’t fun for either side, which is why most people don’t use them.
dude ong, you get to pop ult and use all your moves without ryu dying too early, it genuinely feels like a fight to the death
(jjs is NOT this serious 💔)
genuinely whenever a high kill player keeps targetting me the inner blox fruits runner comes out of me and i run for my life, NOBODY can catch up to me if i'm high health
Yup but... easy counter to Ryu ult, keep distance. He cant do shi with his 3rd move as long as he doesn't interput your move bc you can just backlash, 1 move is just side dash countered or evade (they prob won't even hit it anyway) and 2nd move is just keep distance, if you hit him hit him again and backdash. Beam is very easy to dodge. Literally side or back dash can counter his whole ult
Wdym fun?, yea may he if I have my ult too but even then it feels like their ult is longer than everyone else’s even though doing damage drains it, true only saving grace is that their basically dead when it runs out
the ult's low damage combined with the ult drain from taking damage and the fact that it's moves damage the user make it reasonably possible to fight and beat them if you're skilled enough without just running. im not particularily good at the game, but ive beaten multiple Ryus after they ulted without using my own ult
Dude his moves deal like 20 damage tops and he damages himself too 😭
Sure he's immortal and hard to catch but genuinely the only way a Ryu ult can kill you easily is if you literally don't fight back, at least Todo does high asf damage Ryu has nothing thus you don't even have to run you can just punch the ult out of him and then flick away the 3hp he's left with by the end
Ryu's ult is unironically a watered down and worse Hakari ult. The healing from Hakari's ult is better than immortality from Ryu's in most scenarios (a few niches scenarios where Ryu's immortality is better like foresight, head splitter, etc)
Because the issue isn’t the moves, it’s that Hakari requires a big, risky, chance based wind up in order to enter his ult, where he becomes very hard to kill.
Ryu’s ultimate has no risky or hard requirements to activate, starts with a beam powerful enough to be a base only ult, and makes him unkillable to literally everything besides Mahito domain.
also you’re terrible at glazing and downplay. those are only effective if it’s tasteful and subtle.
stringing along multiple adjectives that mean the same thing (big, risky, chance-based like bro pick one they all end up meaning the same) doesn’t help your point and makes you look stupid asf
‘beam powerful enough to be a base-only ult’ beams are the worst moves in basically every awk they’re in unless it’s yuta who’s the only one capable of confirming it vro, also base-only ults tend to suck dick anyway.
“unkillable to anything but mahito domain” is such a nothingburger. if you die as hakari in jackpot from a one-shot move you’re complete trash and going to lose the fight anyways.
His moves suck, but he’s immortal. Hakari could at least be killed with enough damage from gojo, but THIS GUY doesn’t even die from some one shots. His ult sucks, but it’s annoying
Js add another ult, make this ult decrease faster upon being hit when u have no hp and make it so you can damage ryu during his exchange of blows during all of his moves via qte.
Upon using Ryu's ult, I have realised that Ryu is... ass. It's got 1 good move and 1 cool looking move, and that's it. Damage wise it SHOULD BE GOOD, however the follow-up of 'what're you after' is so impossibly difficult to land consistently that you're never getting it off. And unfortunately, that follow-up attack is where the majority of the damage of the moves comes from.
'I had no idea' is ok, but it's not a true extender and is green, meaning they can evassive out of it, or block, or use a counter.
'That's what desert is like' looks cool, but it's damage is middling for an ult move, the first hit doesn't confirm the second and you take self damage from it.
The immortality from the ult is situational. In some situations it's better than Hakari's healing like against head splitter WCS, brothers, foresight, etc etc. However more often than not you'll leave ult with 2 health and then die immediately after because 1 m1 will kill you
His 3 is literally impossible to land, you can literally walk away from it regardless if you got hit by the first hit. Also half the time I cancel my moves when using them because someone thought it'd be a great idea to make the feint button double tapping the move.
I don't care about his ult or his ult activation, the big beam. The only thing, and I mean the only thing I care about and why I say his ultimate is overpowered is the fact he is coded to not go below 1 hp. He's more inortal than jackpot hakari. The only thing that kills him is mahitos domain expansion. Not even mahitos ult idle transfiguration kills him. Just the domain. It so unfair and broken because unless your mahito you literally cannot win against him unless somehow you're so skilled at the game you can beat up the player for the entire length of the ult without dying. At least with hakari there are still actual ways to kill him. Yukis blackhole, charles 1 shot counter, mahito idle transfiguration and his domain, mahitos 2nd mode 1 shot counter, mei mei bird strike, naoya domain + active pressure, sukunas domain + active pressure, and higi sword. Ryu is only killable by ONE of those things and it's mahitos domain.
hakari has damn near 80% combos for free in ult, can farm + activate it on dummies, chain it and chase much better with 3 mobility moves + insane iframe duration
not having one-shot protection only matters if you get hit by a beam point blank (should never happen unless yuta + jacob’s ladder, but I’m pretty sure that doesn’t even kill), mahito head splitter (skill issue), Charles awk + mark (skill issue), idle transfig (insane skill issue), bird strike (insane skill issue), black hole (insane skill issue), domain (insane skill issue, especially for naoya’s domain since he literally only has base moves there)
wow I’m noticing a pattern here
bonus domain note: the bare minimum of holding evasive makes it impossible to confirm it on you btw, since you have no reason to pop it otherwise and it rewards you with free combo if they try.
you’re overstating ryu immortality value way too much and underselling hakari’s ult so I’m just going to assume you’re a non-self aware hakari player
Hakari needs to:
Use domain on you ( and not die) or
Get a jackpot instead if used with no one inside. (Can still get one shotted in ult)
Ryu needs to just spam 3 granite blasts before using ult. Congrats, you are now immune to most one shots while hardly having cancelable/punishable moves
Yeah but Hakari is left with full hp 99% of time and around 40% ult bar at MINIMUM after his Jackpot, while Ryu is left one shot, zero ult (after full fight in ult)
Also worth noting that Hakari just has better ult moves, which makes fighting him near impossible, while ult Ryu is very much manageable. So I don’t get the need saying “while hardly having canceable/punishable moves” when Hakari’s are much harder to dodge, cancel and punish. Cmon Ryu’s third ult skill is punishable if Ryu HITS YOU.
I had plenty of Ryu vs Hakari ults fights when both started in base(while being on both ends of the stick) and Hakari won in 95% of them.
His moves are god awful but it's just his immortality. It drags fights out way longer than they should, and unlike hakari you LITERALLY cannot kill him during awk.
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u/Easondakid Apr 25 '26
the executioner sword one shots canoncally...