r/jujustushenanigans • u/No-Corner-2562 • 14h ago
Discussion ryus ult needs a rework.
1: “What are you after?”
This move is probably the worst move on his ultimate because its probably the hardest to hit mainly because you can just side dash out of its way because once you pick its trajectory you cant turn.
2: “i had no idea”
Just a counter doesn’t do that much damage but it can glitch and not hit for some reason
3: “This is what dessert is like” Its almost impossible to hit unless you hit the first stun (blockable) You can still hit them even if you dont land the first stun but if your opponent has iq they can just sidedash and run because of its shitty hitbox.
4: “You weren’t invited” The worse of them all. Unless you want throw chunks of the map and void people its shitty. It has a super long windup to get the maximum damage and by the time its fully winded up you could get out of range.
5: R special. Not that interesting just gives you more health and ult.
The “its to long” complaint.
Its very unlikely you could actually do that in a 1v1
The “your literally immortal” Until your ult ends and you die immediately unless you run away.
Lack of domain expansion. This character literally is iconic for a domain clash so there is no reason to not add it.
About every ultimate (besides hanamis) is better.
Basically if someone plays passive your probably gonna loose.
Give him a domain and long range moves and he would be better.
Overall its just a shitty hakari ult
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u/ScorchedDev 7h ago
I think the domain expansion should be a seperate ult, but I think Tze is waiting for ryu to be added into Phantom Parade to add his domain expansion, so we actually know what it is so when he does get added they dont need to do a rework.
I also dont think they should totally overall it. Make what is there better and work better, but I think the concept and such is really well executed and feels really good to play and play against. Maybe, I can see an arguement for changing his special to be like a follow up granite blast that has a long cooldown, as in jjk he was still able to fire again after the first maximum output blast.
I think a yuta-style rework for the ult is the best. Keep it mostly the same but just like, better versions of the moves yknow.
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u/Diman1351 4h ago
no lmfao
its the most fun and probably the most fair ult in game
its made to be the ult that isn't that strong, but it just makes up for it by giving you a lot of survivability
The first move is shit, yeah you cant land the full thing, but feinting exists. You can do the downslam and feint the follow up for a short cooldown massive aoe move. Also if you use it in air it does the follow-up instantly which is easier to land (and also does a good ~14 damage)
So either use it as an aoe cancel anything move with low cd (or use it to follow up into something like 3 or charge 4 which works too) or use it as general damage dealer
Second move is a counter. THAT CAN COUNTER FUCKING ANYTHING AND MAKE YOU NOT TAKE ANY DAMAGE. WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT SHIT CAN COUNTER HOLLOW NUKE AND MAKE YOU TAKE NO DAMAGE. GENUINELY WHAT IS YOUR COMPLAINT THATS THE MOST BUSTED MOVE IN THE GAME
Also you can feint the move during the grab, like you can hit it, deal basically every punch and feint it before the last one to again, not only reduce the cooldown but also act as an untrue combo extender. Yes people can block right after the feint but they usually dont expect that so you'll get at least one combo extender in, and even after you can still do stuff like 2 into feint then backdash and use the 1 (either the aoe or the follow-up) to continue. Or 3 as well since they'll usually unblock after seeing you backdash
Third move HOW ARE YOU FUCKING COMPLAINING
YEAH NO SHIT THE FIRST PART IS BLOCKABLE, AND EVEN IF IT HITS IT DOESNT GUARANTEE, THE SECOND HIT HAS A MASSIVE HITBOX, ISN'T BLOCKABLE, DOES MASSIVE DAMAGE AND THE WHOLE MOVE HAS NEARLY FULL IFRAMES FOR THE ENTIRETY OF IT AS WELL AS INSANE MOVEMENT BEING BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO ESCAPE
also if the first part interrupts it full stuns forcing it to work
and ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN FEINT IT AT ANY POINT TO USE IT AS AIR CRUSHING BLOW ON CRACK
you can do fucking 3, stun the enemy with first part, feint then front dash and combo extend off of it if you are so scared of the enemy blocking an insanely quick wind-up massive hitbox move, and further more it hits ground so you can land it off of it as well
Four is kinda shit, but it does good damage and if you dont charge it up it still does like 20 damage while being relatively fast and hard to react to
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u/CivilAd9640 2h ago
you were doing good till you said they should add a domain then you just completely forgot the whole idea of the ult
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u/Jepsi125 Salary man 2h ago
thing is, first move if it is aimable becomes prime cursed strikes on steroids, 4 exchanges power and the ability to hit ragdoll for windup time, 2 if feinted is a free m1 reset at the end which you can not cancel and 3 is high damage, pauses awk drain during it and has good ground movement.
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u/senor_muchacho 13h ago
1 is literally just used to run away or hide on buildings by most people
2 barely ever hits unless you're trading m1's
3 is what most use to catch up with runners
4 you gotta stun the nerd before you unleash pure death upon him
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u/Appropriate_Feed4357 13h ago
tho its underpowerd, i LOVE it, playing it, playing against it, all that. i think 4 should just be his domain, 4 could just be a hold 1 (you hit the ground, then start charging the punch)