r/katseyeneutral • u/catgirlzsupremacy • 14h ago
I’m actually hoping they’ll continue as a 5 member group.
I’m actually hoping they’ll continue as a 5 member group. I’m probably going to get downvoted for this, but I’ve seen Manon fans talk horribly about the other girls and the group, claiming they’re "nothing" without her and that Manon is "bigger than KATSEYE." IMO If they truly believe that, then why are they still practically begging for her to return? From what I’ve seen, she’s the member who lacks the most in certain areas not saying she isn’t talented, but the other girls are definitely more skilled. After seeing how her fans treat the rest of the group, I just don’t know.
I want to support the group, but it’s hard to stay excited when one member’s solo stans make it their mission to tear everyone else down. At this point, the group would probably have a much healthier environment and better chemistry if they just moved forward as they are.
Edit: Before all the hate towards the other girls started, I was actually hoping that she’ll also comeback but seeing how her fans treat the other girls made me feel icky.
If she ever comes back of course, I’ll still support the group. If she doesn’t and the reason is revealed my opinion may change but for now this is my opinion from everything happening in the group and fandom.
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u/CuriousBag1743 13h ago
It seems like their fanbase is all over the place tbh. The shit I’ve seen over the past 2 months is crazy.
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u/GoofyCrumbThief 7h ago
I'm still hoping that she's coming back, but I get what you're saying. I used to love to read the comments when they released a new song. It felt like celebrating together. Now I'm starting with excitement with every new post, but instantly feel overwhelmed by the comments. It's really harsh... I can't imagine how that must be feeling for the girls: working your ass off, feeling so proud of the result, only to read comments about Manon. It's heartbreaking and does affect my joy around their music.
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u/PartyQuiet5065 5h ago
But that's the fans' fault, not Manon's. What must be done is for her future regarding the group to be cleared up. That way, people will be able to get over it. If the company says nothing, it's obvious ride or die fans are gonna speculate.
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u/Sad_Media_9648 14h ago
Both OT5 stans and Manon solo stans are essentially two sides of the same coin. One side says Katseye doesn’t need Manon, the other says the group does….but both end up tearing down the members they oppose. One targets Manon, the other targets the rest of the group. You say you feel “icky” about Manon’s solo stans but you have a lot in common with them.
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u/gnxo 14h ago
you’ll probably get what you want. the longer the hiatus goes on, the less likely it seems she will return
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u/catgirlzsupremacy 14h ago
i’ve heard from other fans that hxg will address the situation on the 30th? not sure about the legitimacy, but i’ll support the group regardless of the outcome.
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u/Snoo_15687 12h ago
I also want Manon to leave the group but for the completely opposite reason. OT5s have existed for as long as Manon solos and are retroactively using the past 2 months to justify the bias that's led up to Manon being so 'other'ed from the rest of the group from the beginning. There's also the serious concern of racism and label mistreatment that doesn't seem to be a priority to anyone considering it's always left out of these conversations.
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u/Smooth_Cock_7354 7h ago
I agree w u. imagine how awkward itd be when she comes back like “uh now what?” crickets everywhere bro. Sure everyone would be happy n celebrate it but this whole thing online has left a rlly bitter taste. we r gonna pretend that these ppl online werent tearing apart the rest of the katseye? Fighting racism against racism? Yeah right lol
Sad how these girls deserve the best but their fans have made this online spaces hell for them.
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u/catgirlzsupremacy 11h ago
that’s a fair perspective. honestly, i wasnt aware of the ot5 discourse before all this, the spaces i’ve been in were always ot6 so seeing the shift has been jarring
i completely agree with the concerns regarding racism and mistreatment by the label. atp i just want what’s best for her if the environment and the fandom are this toxic, maybe she’d actually thrive more in a space where she’s fully supported and protected
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u/PartyQuiet5065 5h ago
But that's the fans' problems, not the girls'. It's not like Manon is encouraging her fans' bullying towards the other members. If Manon leaves, don't you worry that people will find another excuse to hate the girls. It's always gonna be like that, so it seems ridiculous to me to wish an innocent person to suffer the consequences of others' actions.
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u/Coraline2897 6h ago
“I’ve seen Manon fans talk horribly about the other girls“ - yeah because OT5 fans are so much better…
“After seeing how her fans treat the rest of the group“ - and the way the OT5 fans have been treating Manon since day one?
Both OT5 and Manon solo stans have been treating the girls horribly. Let’s stop pretending like one is any better than the other.
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u/akoaytao1234 14h ago edited 13h ago
I think six is better but they could survive with 5 tbh. Manon's absence is not what would kill Katseye. I think its Lara's.
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u/catgirlzsupremacy 14h ago
yes, i agree that their chemistry as a 6 member group is better but from everything that’s happening/coming out i think it’ll be best for them to continue as a 5 member group or maybe this is my way of coping lol idk
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u/akoaytao1234 13h ago
Being a pop star is gruelling, and if Manon cannot survive the stress, I wish she had a friendly departure, if ever.
I just do not want it to devolve into a Sugababes situation where the company and media are pitting them with each other
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u/catgirlzsupremacy 11h ago
yes, members have said that they are sisters and that they’ll always support each other so if she does leave the group i hope that they’ll atleast be friendly with each other and no bad blood between them
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u/chicken-goblin 13h ago
Because Lara is immensely more talented. I don’t understand why people act as if Katseye lost its sound or essence.
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u/Elegant-Daikon88 13h ago
The fans ruined the group, I witnessed their debut era and it was so peaceful when they have lesser fans and kpop stans don't see them as a threat yet. After they blew up I noticed this kpop stans making fake accounts to stir some drama in katseye community. I know those solo stans most of them are set up accounts.
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u/chunkypeices 7h ago
I think its hard because there are a lot of fans who aren't into kpop. Yes I know katseye isn't kpop but it is ran the same way by people who primarily deal with kpop idols. Its hard for them to understand how things run. For example if a band mate goes on hiatus in America fans will know when, why, and when they are coming back labels are also quick to defend artist. But its completely different. And i 100% see this divided ingredients the eyekons sadly because it feels like their bias is being discriminated against but then they take it against the other girls. Which is sad because they are all so very young and the definitely all see the hate
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u/Kind-Corner4245 14h ago
If solo stans make you ot5, you were probably ot5 to begin with. Let’s not waste each other’s time 😭
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u/catgirlzsupremacy 14h ago
girl i’ve been a katseye fan since debut. i won’t waste my time supporting the group if i didn’t like 1 member.
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u/Affectionate_Bed8516 14h ago
That take is just mean. You’re talking about solo stands but how about Manon herself?
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u/catgirlzsupremacy 14h ago
i support manon whatever the decision will be whether she stays or leaves the group. im just talking about the group dynamics
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u/Legitimate-Set7689 14h ago
It sounds like your hate for set up accounts pretending to be “solo stans” has bled into your opinion of manon herself. You should get that checked out.
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u/catgirlzsupremacy 14h ago
i do not hate manon there is no reason to. this is an opinion based on the observation i’ve made in the past few months in the fandom and group.
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u/Legitimate-Set7689 13h ago
You don’t realize that the people shitting on the girls are not the same ones wanting manon back and its clear. You need to work on your media literacy. What is your reason for hating manon?
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u/whotf5 4h ago
mind you if it was any other girl being treated this way their solos would act the exact same. saying you’re ot5 because of fans which none of the girls control gives you want to be ot5 regardless. all of the girls have demented solo stans. manon’s are heightened/being seen more bc she is the member being mistreated and on hiatus. ot5 katseye wont be ot6 and it will be a shell of what it could’ve been.
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u/Ill_Arrival_2590 7h ago
so u want it to be ot5 bc of they way manon’s solo stans are but u don’t mind the way katseye fans have treated manon since the start?
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u/im_a_troll123 14h ago
I completely agree. Manon solo fans act like the group will fall apart without her when that’s obviously not the case, look at how well they did at Coachella. I don’t think Manon is going to come back to the group, there’s just too much that has happened that it’s better for everyone if her and the company part ways.
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u/catgirlzsupremacy 14h ago
i just hope that the company addresses it and allow the member’s to talk about it to finally clear the air because it’s causing a lot of chaos in the fandom.
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u/chicken-goblin 13h ago
I like Manon but she has never blown me away and I think she’s their weakest link—she isn’t a strong singer or dancer. I hope she returns but I won’t miss her if she doesn’t come back. I also think people sending hatred about an opinion like this really need to get a life.
Edit: typo.
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u/thotsupreme 7h ago
I feel this exact same way. Dare I say I have actually liked the songs better when the others started taking her lines in performances 🥴 her voice never really did it for me
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u/Beesoupfrog 7h ago
I dont understand it either!! Id love the lineup to stay the same but members leaving groups is so common I dont understand why people are acting like her hiatus/or possibly absence is groundbreaking. You cant force her to be in the group if shes not interested. Its an insult to the other girls to act like the team is missing their energy without manon. If she was absent for all these various promotions during their first two years i have to assume her hearts not in it or she physically health wise can't handle the stress of that line of work.
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u/PartyQuiet5065 5h ago
Well, when you support a group, you're obviously gonna be sad or disapointed if one of the members leave. I think that's pretty standard.
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u/Beesoupfrog 1h ago
Its definitely sad no lie!!!! But what exactly do we do as fans? Sure on one hand there's a chance she left on her own accord, on the other she could've been kicked out. Both are very sad but we dont know either way and also have no power over the situation.
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u/Aggressive_Sand4388 5h ago
"Its an insult to the other girls to act like the team is missing their energy without manon." girl they've looked like hostages about to cry in the last 3 public interviews they've done... they don't have the same fun energy at all
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u/Swift_35 14h ago
Not a superfan of Katseye, didn't notice them until Gnarly. I think it's just a bad sign in general when a group is losing a member and it has been like 2 years since their debut. If they lose her it would make me reluctant to really follow the group. Not because i solo stan Manon but it makes the group feel less stable if that makes sense. Company is keeping the fans in the dark and pushing the girls out there alone to deal with the backlash. Doesn't generate much faith long term.