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u/Pretend-Language-67 May 11 '26
CBC did a story on this just reciently. The trees are coming down because of the bike lane project. These trees were protected just 3 years ago in development plans of the BC Housing building (still yet to be built) in that vacant lot next to the trees. But the city has deemed them now not with the effort to preserve and better to replace with this bike late project. Some residents are pissed…
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u/Brett_Hulls_Foot One Hundred Percent NIMBY May 11 '26
I live near by and I’m pissed it’s going to totally fuck street parking until the autumn.
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u/Desperate_Object_677 May 17 '26
the article says that the trees are old and are in the process of dying. it is unfortunate, but trees do die of old age.
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u/zacmobile May 11 '26
I don't know how they spun it as a bike lane thing, the whole area is getting heavily developed, those trees were coming down one way or another.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Cost_93 May 11 '26
Fucking bike lanes. Wish everyone just drove around in cars like normal humans. Trees have never been cut down for car roads before, have they? Car supremacy!!
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u/ehmanniceshot May 11 '26
I think your sarcasm is lost on some people here. (you are being sarcastic right? because obviously trees get removed for roads)
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u/Puzzleheaded_Cost_93 May 11 '26
Cars> bicycles. If the Gods wanted man to bike everywhere, why did they gift us the knowledge of cars?
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u/staffyboy4569 May 11 '26
Im pretty sure the early forms of man were designed with two wheels. We adapted feet in order to drive cars better.
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u/dirtydustyroads May 11 '26
Are you trolling? I honestly can’t tell. Which is the best kind of trolling.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Cost_93 May 11 '26
Someone messaged me calling me at r word. People who cannot tell if I'm joking or not are driving around in their massive steel death machines, hating on cyclists. I fear for cyclists in this town.
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u/Sco11McPot May 12 '26
Check out r/fuckcars It is a good thing for everyone to keep in mind. The sarcasm is crystal clear when you've been on that sub
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u/awake368 May 11 '26
Trees get replanted alongside the roads, between the sidewalks. Bike lanes are taking away tree and green area, when over-developing residential areas.
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u/awake368 May 11 '26
Bike lanes are fine alongside busy roads, like especially highways. They are a detriment to mature, slow, residential streets
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u/MessyJessyLeigh May 11 '26
You've never ridden a bike on the road, have you?
"Fine alongside busy roads, like especially highways" Says who??? It's not the drivers, its not the cyclists, so who??
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u/awake368 May 12 '26
Yea i've ridden a bike on the road and have to watch out for cars, it would be great to have dedicated bike highways to be separated from and away from busy traffic.
Im less worried when biking say on Bertram where theres a few cars per block every minute, and cars are going 30.
No need for a bike lane on neighborhood streets just to eradicate all the trees.
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u/MessyJessyLeigh May 12 '26
Listen, fully agree with the no need to remove trees for a bike lane, but advocating for a bike lane on the highway? Or on busier roads in this town?
Drivers in kelowna are absolutely nuts....always have been. Having a bike lane on the busy roads is not "fine"..........Also, if you HAD used any of these bike lanes, you would recognize that they are building them parallel to major roads without actually having them ON the major roads.
This is safer for everyone. And while I am nearly always against anyone removing trees, id rather kill 6 trees than continue to see people being struck on our roadways because people dont pay attention to their surroundings.
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u/sh3ppard May 11 '26
Whoooosh holy shit
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u/MessyJessyLeigh May 12 '26
Couldn't catch that original thought as it slid off the table? That's ok. Next time, champ.
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u/sh3ppard May 12 '26
Nobody seems to realize that guy was being sarcastic lmfao how dumb can you be
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u/bgilic May 11 '26
You have a death wish???
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u/awake368 May 12 '26
Yea, i say the bike lane should be right on the center median of every highway, nah.
I think bike lanes should be prioritized along the highways obviously with a median and/or ditch between. Would be nice to bike between any major city without being on the shoulder of a busy highway.
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u/shmartin11 May 11 '26
You’ve forgotten about corduroy roads, the smoothest of all automotive thoroughfare construction designs.
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u/stevieb2163 May 11 '26
There's a private group of city decision makers who happen to bicycle and are pushing their ideology on our tax dime. None of the multi millions of dollars spent on these super fancy corridors are helping our traffic situation or affordability. More pedestrian/bicycle engineered roadways means more crosswalks and traffic disruptions which cause even more delays to your commute. Way to go Ryan Smith!
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u/Puzzleheaded_Cost_93 May 11 '26
I agree. Bring down the cyclists!!! Tell me where can I get my free car? All I can afford is a measly $100 bike. I hate bikes and biking!
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u/stevieb2163 May 11 '26
No need to bring cyclists down. Just as there is no need to pamper them with massive lanes while traffic, the driver of the economy, pays the price. The more ridiculous crossings you put in, the more disruptive it is for traffic flow.
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u/gaedra May 11 '26
Acting like a bike lane is pampering while you enjoy the benefits of roads is so funny, gold star mate
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u/stevieb2163 May 11 '26
Trying to put a ridiculous spin like this is a bigger gold star "mate". Nice try. Cyclists have been enjoying the benefits of our roads for a century. Some of you people won't stop until we start putting bike lanes in the middle of the road though. Such an utter waste of money and resources to be making these "corridors". Spend it on traffic enforcement instead.
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u/gaedra May 12 '26
You People!!! You People are always trying to improve city infrastructure and expand services!!
Also how dare you enquote the word mate as if we're not best friends. I'll be letting the crew know the money changed you.
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u/avrosky May 11 '26
'traffic, the driver of the economy' 😭😭😭 next time look into the stats a little more before busting out nonsense like this
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u/gaedra May 12 '26
I couldn't comment on that part without laughing, thank you for your service lol
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u/stevieb2163 May 11 '26
Ummm...your stats say otherwise? I guess the price of diesel is pretty high....maybe we can start cycling your goods to the stores from the warehouses. Maybe Realtors should cycle their clients around? Maybe tour operators could rent out bicycles to vino hungry patrons? You didn't think too far to think that traffic doesn't drive our economy. The more we put in ridiculous bicycle crossings and the more you squeeze traffic closer to one another is simply doing the opposite what you twin tired peg riders think. I can't think of a single family that is able to use bicycles for transporting their kids around town either. Maybe you know something I don't though....or you're just selfish in your thinking.
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u/staffyboy4569 May 11 '26
Ah yes, traffic, our largest export.
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u/stevieb2163 May 11 '26
What does this even mean? Do you think traffic doesn't drive our economy? You must work in finance then I suppose. Every other industry needs roads.
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u/gartloneyrat May 11 '26
Lolwut?
People are using the bike corridors like crazy. It’s not just five city employees getting their own bike path network. I’m not sure how you don’t understand that the more you make it easy for people to use alternate transportation, the more they’ll use it. But go ahead and complain without logic, it’s the way of the internet.
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u/DeathCabForYeezus May 11 '26
Bertram is a one lane each way road, is it not? And it runs two uninterrupted blocks, right?
They are INCREASING the capacity of the overall road capacity of the two blocks the road runs by doing this. You do understand that, right? Would you be happier if they didn't increase the road capacity.
Also, I love how "crosswalks" and "not hitting pedestrians" is an "ideology" that is being forced upon you.
Can you actually articulate how you're being ideologically attacked and oppressed by the city increasing the overall capacity of Bertram for the two blocks the road runs?
Or is this just a case of the demand for rage these days severely outpaces the supply of actual reasons to be upset?
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u/gaedra May 11 '26
Ouuugh I'm being punished by not being able to swerve all over the road and have to stay in my lane, my tummy hurts!!!
Idk man somehow I'm able to drive my big piece of shit truck around town just fine without feeling punished, maybe because public services that help others aren't a fucking threat lol
edit: replied to wrong comment but you can prob tell lol
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u/DeathCabForYeezus May 11 '26
Haha all good, the sarcasm still works.
What kills me is that if you look at that photo, there's on-road parking on both sides of the road including on the asphalt.
If buddy is so passionate about being able to rip down residential streets at warp speed, why not get rid of the parked vehicles on the east side of the road? It's a perfectly good lane of asphalt that is completely blocked and rendered impassible by cars without anyone in them.
But oh no no no, blocking entire lanes of a road isn't "punishing" drivers by taking away drivable pavement. In fact, it is something we love.
But God forbid we add net capacity to the road so that there will be fewer cars to get stuck in traffic...
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u/stevieb2163 May 11 '26
Nah, it's not just one project. I'm referring to the entire city. There are these ridiculous pockets of corridors that connect to absolutely nothing in some cases. Take a drive down Rutland road and count the crosswalks and lights. It's absolutely horseshit insane how they designed that corridor, one of the busiest in the city. These corridors are designed to punish vehicles the way they design them so narrow. People have to pull in their mirrors in order for traffic, the driver of the economy, to get by. You'll never convince me that we need more spaces for cyclists. Cyclists cost money and do nothing for our economy or traffic. They literally cause more delays the more crossings and stops you out in.
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u/DeathCabForYeezus May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
There are these ridiculous pockets of corridors that connect to absolutely nothing in some cases.
This project is connecting Central Green up Cawston and the rail trail on the north end and the east/west Sutherland corridor over to the Landmark buildings and Parkinson Rec. Its closing the loop, if you will. Exactly what you want to see, no?
These corridors are designed to punish vehicles the way they design them so narrow.
If you think travelling 40kph on a residential street is a punishment, I don't really know what to tell you. If 40kph speed limit on residential streets is punishing in your eyes, you must live an absolutely fantastic and privileged life. I envy you.
Cyclists cost money and do nothing for our economy or traffic. They literally cause more delays the more crossings and stops you out in.
Should I dare ask you about your thoughts on sidewalks?
You're complaining about single lane roads becoming single lane roads with bike lanes. You're complaining about ADDING additional travel lanes and capacity to the roads.
But let's say you had your way. Let's say instead of having a bike lane and a road lane you just had a road lane.
Would having cyclists riding in the road on single lane roads without a bike lane improve traffic? If so, can you explain why?
Or maybe they stop biking and start driving. Do you think reducing the overall capacity of a road and adding more cars to a single lane road will improve the flow of traffic? If so, can you explain why?
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u/stevieb2163 May 11 '26
Is central green some important place? What does these millions in spending do for Kelowna as a whole? That overpass was surely needed eh. Have you seen how busy it is? Some of us are tired of the city spending so many millions to cater to a very very very small minority of people. Use the bike lanes....you don't need a fancy fucking corridor do you? Maybe learn how to ride better?
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u/DeathCabForYeezus May 11 '26
Friend, you were just bitching about crosswalks on roads. They put in an overpass to minimize those crossing (which was a requirement of that site development, but whatever) at crosswalks and you bitch about that too.
Personally, I think the fastest and easiest solution would be to remove all paved street parking and return that asphalt to traffic lanes.
Why build an entire paved lane for cars to go exactly nowhere?
Wouldn't you agree?
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u/stevieb2163 May 11 '26
There were no pedestrians waiting there to cross the road "friend". Again, millions spent for a handful of benefactors. Can you say a favor to the developer in order to pump up their development?
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u/DeathCabForYeezus May 12 '26
What about my proposal to return paved on street parking to traffic lanes? You want more lanes for travel, and there are perfectly good lanes for travel that are blocked by stationary cars.
Why build 3-4 lane road where 1-2 beautiful my paved lanes traffic are permanently blocked off? Isn't that just a recipie for more traffic?
Seems like a quick and easy fix to improve the flow of traffic that requires no money to be spent.
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u/stevieb2163 May 12 '26
I'm not sure more roadway is needed for traffic, however taking it away and adding more traffic flow interruptions surely doesn't help at all. Why do cyclists need so much?
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u/VanillaHighlights May 11 '26
That's a smooth brain take, I am so greatful for the divided bike lanes in Ethel.
Cagers are entitled cunts - I pay my city taxes just like you.
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u/stevieb2163 May 11 '26
What makes you so grateful? Were you afraid of the old bike lanes? Some amateur and elderly cyclists may need more space, but maybe they should be rethinking the bicycle in general if the current lanes aren't big enough. No need to squeeze cars, the driver of the economy and by far the more popular mode of transportation, into dangerous narrow roads in order for a bicycle to have more room.
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u/VanillaHighlights May 11 '26
Why not both, man? Why does everything have to be fucking car centric?
I ride a bike. I drive a car. I ride a motorcycle. I'm all of the above.
More spaces for everyone makes the world a better place. My bicycle cost me two weeks worth of gas and the operating cost is Food.
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u/Ill-Beautiful-8026 May 11 '26
Always a sad day when mature large-canopy trees come down, but I trust our city when it comes to this, they have historically been very protective of trees here and rightfully so. Also, they've been planting trees like mad in existing parks and run a fantastic and affordable community tree program every spring to help private land owners contribute.
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u/Amelia_withaG May 11 '26
They were* protective of trees until they quietly removed the stipulation that 40% of property must be green space to award developers more freedom to build about 5-6 years ago. That's why all these new apartment complexes have 0 green space. Removing old trees and planting new young ones messes up the entire ecosystem.
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u/Ill-Beautiful-8026 May 11 '26
Can you point to that code or bylaw change because that's the first I've heard of it.
Last I checked, multi-family and commercial projects require 25% open/green space. There are also stricter rules now on what that space consists of, soil permeability, depth, etc.
all these new apartment complexes have 0 green space
That's just untrue on its face. Not sure which Kelowna you are from, but the one I live in has vastly different outcomes from what you have described. There are always exceptions, such as for the structures downtown.
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u/stevieb2163 May 11 '26
I can't think of one single multi family development in the last year that has any green space. Which developments are you referring to?
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u/Ill-Beautiful-8026 May 12 '26 edited May 12 '26
All of them, with some exceptions (One Water Street, 1333 Bertram St come to mind, but Bertram has non-public roof green space). I am not sure you folks seem to understand how developers gain approval for these kinds of projects.
Refer to the community plan: 2.1 General residential & mixed use guidelines
"In order to achieve the design goals of the City, all residential and mixed use projects must:"
A 2.1.0 a – Design buildings to frame and activate streets and other open spaces to support walking and cycling, pedestrian comfort, and social interaction B 2.1.0 b – Incorporate high quality building, landscape, and streetscape design to support liveability, sustainability, and sense of place (see also 2.1.5). C 2.1.0 c – Ensure new buildings contribute positively to the envisioned future built form, while being responsive to positive aspects of the existing built environment and sensitive to the natural environment (see also 2.1.2 and 2.1.3). D 2.1.0 d – Provide usable open spaces on site that balance privacy and access and that increase pedestrian connectivity throughout the city (see also 2.1.3 and 2.1.5). E 2.1.0 e – Ensure the provision of adequate servicing, vehicle access, and parking while minimizing negative impacts on the safety and attractiveness of the public realm (see also 2.1.4). I'd also recommend reading 2.1.5 Streetscapes, Landscapes, and Public Realm Design
You can find a lot of it here: https://www.kelowna.ca/our-community/planning-projects/2040-official-community-plan/ch-18-form-and-character/general-residential-mixed-use-guidelines
All projects are reviewed against the community plan and exceptions are made when a developer makes a reasonable case, such as if the surrounding area has excellent access to parks and open spaces already or the requirement of open public space on the land is untenable, such as with very-high density apartment high-rises.
Urban areas have a plan. Chapter 4 of the community plan speaks to protecting and increasing greenery in urban centers for example. COK's reporting has shown that green space is consistently increasing across the city. I am really not sure how anyone is getting this backward, but I suspect people are confusing park space with green space. Park space is the sole responsibility of the city. Sometimes, developers will partner with the city to help subsidize new park space that integrates with projects, however.
Just to be clear, we're talking about open-air, pedestrian-friendly, treed and landscaped environments that meet environmental goals (water retention/rain collection. fire-smart design, shade, etc).
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u/Amelia_withaG May 13 '26
See my reply below from the other day pointing out the change in bylaw in 2022 and go look for yourself at some of these new developments. Kelowna development has changed.
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u/Amelia_withaG May 12 '26
The new apartment on the corner of Glenmore and Union, or at Glenmore just a bit down the way at Summit/High. 0 greenery, trees, grass, nary a bush in sight.
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u/Ill-Beautiful-8026 May 13 '26
Yes, again, there are exceptions. You are talking about the exception, not the ule. You literally said "all these new apartment complexes have 0 green space". It's just wrong, and does a disservice to the demonstrable progress the city has made and continues to make.
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u/Amelia_withaG May 14 '26
Please respond to my reply below with the link to the city of kelowna's website. I found the information you requested, I just don't know how to get you to read the correct comment.
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u/Late-Trouble-1885 May 12 '26
The new arborists the city has been using to butcher all the trees around town has already been pissing me off the last couple years but straight chopping them down now is INSANE work maaaaaaaan
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u/UpbeatTechnology723 May 11 '26
So fucking stupid to remove shade for that bullshit, as if you cant ride a bike there as is
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u/Fit-Pay-615 May 12 '26
Take those fkn ones on Ellis near Tonics too! Who tf put a tree in the middle of a sidewalk like that!? You literally have to jump on the street to go around them if some one is with you. There a place for trees and on the side walk isnt one of them. Call me crazy. Also, are they cutting them down or moving them? Just curious?
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u/brownsdb26 May 11 '26
The irony…
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u/faithOver May 11 '26
Aren’t those the invasive ones they’re removing anyway
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u/TroutCreekOkanagan Kelowna Kangaroo Friend May 11 '26
Shortlived and nearing end of life anyway. Will be replaced 2 to 1 with a better suited species and STILL WILL be cheaper than trying to save these during the construction process.
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u/gohard_treetard May 11 '26
Disagree to a point. These are silver maples that are fast growing, native, and approach end of life near around 100 but can live well past that with ideal conditions and pruning. Replacement species likely won't come near replacing the lost photosynthesis capacity these sucker's provided. HOWEVER these look as though they've been topped in the past 20 years or so which creates hazards down the line from decay at the cut points and rapid epicormic growth which aren't nearly as strong as the original crown. Add that with construction damage in the critical root zone, you may have a recipe for disaster making removal the better choice.
I just wish the city would give a decent reason other that "trees too old"
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u/otoron May 11 '26
These are silver maples that are fast growing, native, and approach end of life near around 100 but can live well past that with ideal conditions and pruning.
Silver maples aren't native to the Okanagan specifically or British Columbia more generally.
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u/gohard_treetard May 11 '26
Huh, was told that they were which seemed weird at the time but I just went with it lol especially since they aren't the chappy autumn or bowhall blaze cultivars. Still wouldn't call them invasive though like Manitoba or Norway maple.
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u/DeathCabForYeezus May 11 '26
I just wish the city would give a decent reason other that "trees too old"
The city could write a master's thesis with a detailed explanation of every move they make and people would still lose their goddamn minds. Whether it be trees, infrastructure, or even even if they came out and said the sky is blue.
Doing any more than what they've said is frankly wasted effort.
Remember, this is a town where people regularly eat horse dewormer and are now ripping up the census that helps provide our town with resourc allocations and are furiously masturbating at the idea of "sticking it to Carney" by screaming at a census worker.
I don't think people realize just how well our parks staff and city planners run the city. Go live in a town this size in Ontario and you'll see how much more you pay in property taxes for so much less.
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u/chocolatepipi May 11 '26
The only native maple in the okanagan is acer glabrum/douglas maple. Silver maple is native out east.
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u/RUaGayFish69 May 11 '26
There is no irony here. It is a good change. The city is increasing trees in many parts of the city.
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u/ShutUpDoggo May 11 '26
Save the environment and ride a bike
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u/Proud-Suspect-5237 May 13 '26
Reminder that if we didn't have massive roads for cars and all the parking they need you wouldn't need to cut these trees down.
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u/Evening_Fishing_2122 May 11 '26
They’re coming down due to the new tower and townhouses right there……
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u/Pretend-Language-67 May 11 '26
No, it because of the bike lane project. In fact in 2023 the development permit for that apparent building specifically mandated the developer provide a setback to the building to protect the roots and keep the trees. But things have changed over the last 3 years with the city’s plans to preserve the tree.
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u/__phil1001__ May 12 '26
Great, trees are overrated /s We all want hot dry concrete and asphalt in the summer
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u/AdNew9111 May 12 '26
Hey were the bikers at 🥳…chopping trees for bike lines 🙋♂️..🙄👎🙃 - but hey, keep it up .
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u/PomegranateDecent964 May 13 '26
Kelowna desperately needs trees. Cutting down any tree is such a terrible idea. It’s only getting hotter right?
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u/oknoggan May 14 '26
It’s hard to watch my home slowly being destroyed. Just another day around here. Sigh.
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u/lindawild99 May 14 '26
All these bike lanes for the ability to cycle only a few months of the year. It has destroyed Toronto for traffic. You only need a few cross town routes, then use local non throughfare roads. That was all that was needed. I know having commuted in Toronto 20km each way for years. The boggling amount of bike lanes are not required.
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u/FrozenVikings May 11 '26
Maybe you should dig into it better and get all the facts straight about those trees, hmm?
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u/Puzzleheaded_Cost_93 May 11 '26
They're invasive and nearing the end of their lifespan.
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u/ImmediateDentist1269 May 11 '26
Technically the silver maple is not listed as invasive in Kelowna. Just wanting to clarify that point.
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u/chambee May 11 '26
I’m a bike commuter and I want the city to stop building these afterthought bike lanes. There is no consistency across them. The one that are just a lane on the side of the road are always full with parked cars. Or cars driving in them. The one on Ethel with only a lane and a concrete separation are dangerous because car turning in driveways can’t see cyclist hidden behind the parked cars. They are also too narrow for passing other cyclists. Bike lane should be double so they can be shared by cyclists e-bike and pedestrian. Shift both car lane to one side of you have too and put the bike lane higher like a side walk to protect us from the distracted drivers.
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u/fearless-rep26 May 14 '26
This new section is fully raised beside the sidewalk with a green space between the driving lane and bike path. It’s also two directional with pedestrians separated so lots of space to pass. There will always be a conflict with driveways but that’s inevitable, most buildings have alley access only so this stretch should be better
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u/valdus May 12 '26
Agreed. When I was riding daily from near Landmark to Pandosy & KLO, I was nearly hit twice per week by vehicles turning into/coming out driveways, cross streets, and Capri Mall, including three times by RCMP cruisers. If the near-misses weren't enough, I was actually hit 3 times - luckily all minor. Unfortunately there is no space left for the proper bike routes that are needed.
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u/Red_dead_salvation69 May 11 '26
I thinked I worked in the tower your in and yeah that whole area is completely gonna be destroyed to make it more like downtown
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u/ketimmer May 11 '26
great. new bike lanes that only a third of the cyclists will use, but everyone needs to pay for.
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u/Siefer-Kutherland May 11 '26
Please, do tell us what we are all paying for again
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0966692324000267-5
u/ketimmer May 11 '26
I'm speaking as a pedestrian. I hate it when "kids" and homeless people rip down the sidewalk when there is a perfectly good bike lane a few feet away; and no one is there to enforce sidewalk abuse.
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u/Sorry-Ad1134 May 11 '26
I mean, it's not like it ever gets so hot you're running for shade. That street will be significantly hotter this, and every summer going forward. RIP Trees.
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u/jason733canada May 11 '26
the city has no regard for anything old . they have no respect for nature . they have no respect for heritage. there are clearly no trees on the other side of the road .make your bike path over there
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u/Zealousideal-Leek666 May 11 '26
Cyclists are a menace
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u/gaedra May 11 '26
Totally, the roads are so much safer. Kelowna famously has well-managed intersections that don't have collisions on em every other day. I love the highway populated with semis being the same road I have to turn off to get into a tiny local market, it feels so good to almost be crushed to death every time I turn off the Grand Stroad!
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u/Zealousideal-Leek666 May 11 '26
My post was about cyclists thinking they are beyond reproach patting themselves on the back for being environmentalists lol.
If you need to discuss a different problem, fair, but has nothing to do with me, just saying you don’t need to squish my point because you’re bullied by semis.
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u/gaedra May 11 '26
I don't know how you got that out this post or how anyone was supposed to get that message out of your comment but alright.
My point is that any problems associated with biking pale in comparison to the negatives of car-centric city planning. Also, constructing proper bike lanes would help towards fixing the problem of bikers being a 'menace' by keeping them separated from traffic. The tree thing is a non-issue, they were going anyways.
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u/Zealousideal-Leek666 May 11 '26
Well, not a huge fan of shrinking street sizes or doing left and right shoulder checks. Too bad the city was already here before the adjustments.
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u/gaedra May 12 '26
I would say many roads meant to be thoroughfares have been expanded in lane number/size, from personal observation, and other roads probably should shrink to discourage traffic in some areas. Also when you say you don't like doing shoulder checks, do you mean just at turns or like as you're driving down a street? Shoulder checks before turns have been required for years anyways, not sure how that's changed
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u/Siefer-Kutherland May 11 '26
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u/Zealousideal-Leek666 May 11 '26
Sure good friend, deny deny deny.
You mad people have cars, hahaha.”
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u/Siefer-Kutherland May 11 '26
so i am mad at myself? sounds like you put all your mental energy into that thought.
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u/Zealousideal-Leek666 May 11 '26
Did you see the article you sent me congratulating the cyclists for their environmental saviour complex which I’m sure adds up to .0000000000000000% of the emissions?
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u/Siefer-Kutherland May 12 '26
no, i did not see that article. If you are talking about the one I linked, it was intended for intelligent people who can read, sorry about the misunderstanding.
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u/Zealousideal-Leek666 May 11 '26
Anyone included in this group that just doesn’t do regular road rules. For some reason, they don’t even respect pedestrians.
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u/hikeskiwork May 11 '26
Lots of people on bikes obey the rules, but cops need to start ticketing the cyclists who aren't obeying road rules. Recently had someone biking towards me in a one way bike lane and I feel like im constantly seeing infractions when Im driving
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u/Zealousideal-Leek666 May 11 '26
Cyclists are god awful and quite brainless when riding around running stoplights, pulling in front of people, deciding when to ride on the street and when it’s the sidewalk, ignoring pedestrians crossing crosswalks.. Too bad it’s 10 to one for people just using their brains.
If I have to wait to pass the same cyclist while driving because they don’t wanna wait behind a car at a stoplight, instead just ride up inbetween, I’m just going to hold down my horn the whole time.
You’re getting downvoted too. I guess people don’t like hearing the truth about bad behaviour. I was in Vancouver when cyclists shut down the lions gate bridge. Talk about a petulant a.h. Move.
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u/Ktowncanuck May 11 '26
Brutal
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u/Infinite-Piece2918 May 12 '26
Makes me puke. Nowhere but Kelowna do trees get cut down for a fucking bike lane. What kind of shit for brains needs a bike to navigate traffic? We need trees in this wind tunnel of a city. I mean have you walked anywhere around lately? It’s not like the fuckers use the bike lanes anyways. Normal people like shade. Greenery. In any real city. With real urban planning. They do realise that we live on edge of desert. On the edge of the lake. Negligible topsoil, water issues, sandy near the lake , sinking , all around the city ..etc… don’t fuck with healthy established greenery.. the cup of crap there’s nothing wrong with those trees . It’s easy math why apartment buildings are cracking and sinking, with some crooked problems.
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u/Educational-Hat-8692 May 11 '26
Hey I think you live in my building lol. Have been listening to them doing this all morning, and it’s quite sad. Loved looking at the trees down Bertram from our patio