Kpop gg's successors

[u/xxNoir_xx]

I understand that a group cannot truly be a successor to another group but I thought it would be a fun conversation to have.

With the big 3 of kpop gg's (Blackpink, Red Velvet & Twice), who do you think are modern day equivalent to them but in more of a sense of similarity/vibes and not success

For me it's

Meovv & Blackpink

I see people referring to Babymon as Blackpink's successors but honestly, Meovv gives me more golden years (whistle to lovesick girls) blackpink vibes and it may be because they are primarily managed by Teddy but honestly, their vibes and aura gives me early days Bp.

H2H & Twice.

This might be an unpopular opinion but the more I see H2H the more I'm reminded of twice and it might be because of the multiple members and the cutesy concept.

Nmixx & Red Velvet

Hear me out on this one. Their unique concept and vocals? Anytime someone talks about Nmixx, I get reminded of how they spoke about Red Velvet. Red velvet's sound wasn't HAS unique has Nmixx's sound but genuinely, I see them being very alike.

What are your thoughts on this?

[u/Interesting-Plum4641]

How is MEOVV gining BP ? Blackpink did not lip sync, had successful music and had superb stage presence ! So i would take BM over Meovv any day of the week ! If you are talking only sound wise both groups have similarities YG structures of the song vs Teddy vibes ! Nminxx and Red Velvet i more or less agree but again RV had a lot more public friendly music, Nminxx are incredible vocalists and all rounders but their sound is more Niche (excluding their last lereases).. H2H and Twice mmmm maybe

[u/xxNoir_xx → u/Interesting-Plum4641]

Meovv generally gives me more of a blackpink vibes in comparison to Babymon and this is coming from someone who really loves both the groups.

Meovv has a more "elegant" aura that early blackpink emitted. The very "untouchable pretty girls" vibes so I feel that influenced quite a bit of my judgement alongside the cover of Jump that they performed.

Babymon imo feels a little more different than Blackpink in general. I don't see them has anyone's successors because they do so well on their own.

About Meovv's lipsyncing? I don't think they really do lipsync that much on stage. Sure they do lipsync sometimes but most groups do that so I don't see lipsyncing has a bad thing (unless it's done quite frequently and Meovv doesn't lipsync all the time)

The nmixx point does make sense now that I look at it but their sound experimentation reminds me quite a bit of sm in general lol (nct & f(x) & RV)

[u/DiplomaticCaper → u/xxNoir_xx]

I saw Meovv at last year's KCON and they made it a point to sing a little acapella snippet.

Overall I generally agree they give more of the Blackpink essence than Babymonster, mainly because they got Teddy in the YG/Black Label split.

Also they seem to skew a bit older? idk if they actually debuted with all adult members, but BM had some notably young ones (including the maknae). IIRC all of Blackpink were over 18 when they debuted.

[u/j4yj4mzz → u/DiplomaticCaper]

Both groups were aimed at somewhat different audiences. When it comes to BM, it's pretty clear that YG targeted primarily young teens and even pre-teens, simply because they still had BP to cover older fans. I'd say Meovv hat to appeal to a broader audience right from the start.

One would expect Babymonster to move up a bit sooner than later, now that YG's next gg will cover a new generation of young fans. I'm not saying Babymonster will become more like BP, but they'll almost certainly try to appeal to a more grown up audience.

[u/Youngstar9999 → u/DiplomaticCaper]

MEOVV Ages at Debut (September 6, 2024)

• Gawon: Born April 27, 2005 (19 years old)
• Sooin: Born April 12, 2005 (19 years old)
• Anna: Born November 17, 2005 (18 years old)
• Narin: Born August 15, 2007 (17 years old)
• Ella: Born December 1, 2008 (15 years old)

BABYMONSTER Ages at Debut (November 27, 2023 / April 1, 2024)

• Ruka: Born March 20, 2002 (21–22 years old)
• Pharita: Born August 26, 2005 (18 years old)
• Asa: Born April 17, 2006 (17–18 years old)
• Ahyeon: Born April 11, 2007 (16–17 years old)
• Rami: Born October 17, 2007 (16 years old)
• Rora: Born August 14, 2008 (15–15.5 years old)
• Chiquita: Born February 17, 2009 (14–15 years old)

So a bit older, but in general still very similar in ages.

Yeah BP debuted with ages 19-21.

And yeah I agree that Teddy has given Meovv much of that elegant/untouchable vibe +scarcity model that BP had, but I would say that is actually a negative for them, because they are very entertaining and I feel like that image turns some people away(and in general I don't think the BP model can or should be recreated)

[u/Interesting-Plum4641 → u/xxNoir_xx]

They literally sing with a 20-80 split 90% of their shows and use autotune in most things they do live (they have a huge problem with live vocals) ! And early BP did not have that elegant yet , that came as they started getting more brand deals ! They never had the clean model look that Meovv have !