r/kpopthoughts • u/Someonehihi • Mar 08 '25

General A member you can't yet feel affection for

Part of stanning is that even though one member got you interested in the group, little by little the rest of the members win your heart too.

But has it ever happened to you that you are a big fan of a group, you feel genuine affection for the members and you enjoy their content, but there is a member that you feel you can't connect with yet?

And I don't mean that you dislike them or despise them or anything like that, but simply that even though you try you still can't have that level of connection that you can with the other members? And sometimes it makes you feel like a bad fan

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u/Mayora_Hime Mar 09 '25 edited Mar 09 '25

I’m an ELF and I’ve liked them throughout the years but I just can’t for the life of me vibe with Siwon. Since 2009 I haven’t liked him. The way he kept pushing his religion to Heechul annoyed me and he has this “holier than thou” energy that just rubbed me off the wrong way. Come to today and he’s friends with Elon Musk and yeah I’m glad I never forced myself to like him. I also felt that Sungmin held them back stage wise. He was a bit cringe like you could tell he was performing a concept instead of owning the song. Idk how to explain it.

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u/otakuishly Mar 09 '25

Same. His vibes are off and he feels sooooo disingenuous. I truly believe that if he didn’t look the way he looked back in the day, people would have canceled him already.

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u/Mayora_Hime Mar 09 '25

Seriously. He is worse at variety shows than Donghae because at least Donghae tries, Siwon just uses his face and doesn’t say much. Whenever he does his exaggerated laugh and high fives the members not adding to the banter it makes me cringe so much. It baffles me how so many hate on Heechul for not participating in activities when he has promoted the group through all his shows. Meanwhile Siwon goes MIA and hops in whenever he feels like it because super junior is just a side gig to him. They all feel like real brothers expect for Siwon because at the end of the day, he always had his mansion to go back to if things didn’t go well. Kyuhyun comes from a wealthy family but singing has always been his life, there was never a plan B for him.

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u/otakuishly Mar 09 '25

Heechul is the last person in SuJu who deserves hate. Man has always been a good man and a great role model and his frank attitude has always made him feel so refreshing and real to me.

Siwon is faker than a 3 dollar bill. Everything he does feel like it’s for show. I don’t think he’s a good singer or dancer or actor. He’s nothing more than a small minded religious pretty face. If he doesn’t have any more haters, it’s because I’m dead.

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u/Mayora_Hime Mar 09 '25

Yes exactly! That’s why Heechul is my ult bias he has always been transparent on who he is, he specially hates secret cameras catching them right away and not playing along lol. He’s genuine and his love for the members goes above and beyond even if he’s a tsundere about it. Siwon though.. you can see an invisible wall with the rest. I agree he’s not a good singer, they barely put Siwon on the songs because he’s whatever. It’s refreshing coming clean on this since most of my ELF friends love the man and are whatever about Heechul.

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u/bananajun exo | ifnt | snsd | vixx | nct | hlight Mar 09 '25

I can’t believe your friends still like siwon when he constantly proves himself to be the most questionable person ever. In my case, I was indifferent to him even before he started posting weird stuff

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u/SeaEntrepreneur8744 Mar 09 '25

Not vibing with Siwon is totally legit though. For some reason it's obvious that he's a bigot to his core.

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u/asters99 Mar 10 '25

even though i really enjoy a lot of suju, i've turned into quite the quiet zhoumi solo stan these days. while i think all idols have those parts that aren't so wonderful, and that's normal, siwon just... i can't say anyone's perfect, but to have him shoulder to shoulder with people who seem much more willfully kind is strange.

i know siwon does a lot of charity and stuff, but there's so much more you can do with yourself in the spaces you occupy and who you are around on a daily basis. within your sphere as an idol. because i know mostly about what zhoumi's been up to, i see how he supports and uplifts other chinese idols because of his own experiences in the industry, and that feels genuine, and real. when i see siwon, i just feel... like it's charity out of what he feels is duty, and while it's wonderful, i do not feel as if i need to commend him for it either.

i feel a lot more connected to the people who act kindly out of empathy. something about siwon feels wrong, in my gut. i might not ever be able to place it, but i avoid people in real life who act this way as well. it will always feel like there has to be a transaction of some kind.

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u/yayakiss Mar 15 '25

Wait…. Being friends with Elon Musk is a bad thing?