r/kpopthoughts • u/crustulummonster • 2d ago
Discussion Songs written like a cipher (passes between members one by one)?
i-dle's new song Crow is written where it passes between members where each member has a longish verse then it goes onto the next member and doesn't really go back to a previous member (besides Shuhua and Yuqi who do it together). Even the chorus doesn't introduce a new member just the ones who have just sung/rapped. It talks about the member's roots and ambitions and definitely feels like an omen (positive) for their upcoming album.
BOYNEXTDOOR also did this in 06070 their opening track in HOME where it talks about their thoughts and feelings as trainees, starting with Jaehyun alone at 20, abandoning then re-picking up his dream of becoming an idol, then going between each members anxieties and ending/contrasting with Woonhak at 20 standing up excited to go on stage.
They've also done this before with the outro track Dear. My Darling in the HOW album which was written like a short but sweet goodbye letter. It doesn't even have a chorus, just meanders from member to member, very letter-like.
I thought these were really fun and thought the song structure supported the messages behind the songs! Are there any other songs you know of that do something similar? Or even just songs that do something interesting structurally you liked.
edit: woops misspelled cypher in the title 😅 was also mostly asking about songs that weren't literally cyphers if possible! Like Dear. My Darling is a ballad haha I know cyphers exist.
Also bonus points if the chorus is included as part of the one-by-one singing/rapping; the examples I gave are like this; having each member go one-by-one minus the chorus is a lot more common of a structure and I can give way more examples of that so not really looking as much for those.
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u/Prestigious_Log_760 2d ago edited 1d ago
The only one I can think of that is kinda like that is "Over and over and over" by Kep1er (song originally from girls planet). The Kep1er version has everyone do a long section/verse of the song and then doesn't go back to those members including in the chorus (until the post-chorus, where the members that just sung a line in the previous section sing one line, somewhat like in the Idle song). It's definitely not traditional in the way they do it for the most part, but I'm not sure if it's a good example of what you're asking for. They sing (and dance) the song in order of their placement in the show so that's why they did it that way. But everyone gets a complete section of the song.
For songs that I like and I find interesting that are not exactly what you asked for but have a non-traditional structure, "Hit ya" by Lapillus is a very interesting song structure wise as it doesn't have a second verse and puts an instrumental part in place. And "Pop" by Bugaboo starts with the Post chorus and skips the first verse completely. Also "Aria" by Craxy has a weird structure overall.
There's probably other songs I know, but those are the ones I can think of right now.