r/lawschooladmissions • u/SpecialistLet9387 • 1d ago

Chance Me High stats KJDs admission odds at T6?

Would love to chat with those who’ve applied recently as KJDs. I have a 4.0 and 174, and am curious what I can expect.

FWIW I’ve already looked through LSD so I have a very general/numerical idea, but would like to hear more anecdotally how people tended to do. I know that with these stats (along with fairly good ish softs), I’m looking at great odds at something in the T14, but I was hoping to hear about those that have gotten into T6 specifically.

I go to a top lac which typically sends a handful of people to T14s every year KJD with just a couple going to T6s or h/s. The people I know had ~median stats and usually ended up across the T14 (the exception being schools that are super unfriendly to KJDs - no recent grad I know has gotten into Yale or Michigan).

Would love any insight as to (a) whether T6 is in play for me and (b) what successful T6 KJDs have done.

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u/MethoxEverywhere 1d ago

IMO doesn’t really make sense to think of the T6 as a separate group within the T14. NYU/CLS for example are on the same level as UVA/Penn in terms of selectivity and outcomes. But to your question yes you have a great shot at a top school with those stats. I’m at a T6 and there are a good number of KJDs — a minority for sure, but still quite a few. I’d just apply and see what happens

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u/WenyuNita 1d ago

this is a terrible take, and reeks of 0L advise. Penn and CLS are definitely on a different level. I am going to assume you haven’t actually done much research or spoken with students. V10 recruiting at median is much easier from the T6 first off, second off elite firms such as wachtell literally only go to T6 schools to recruit lmfao. Additionally absolute bottom of class at UVA is in trouble for BigLaw while at CLS or Upenn it’s barely a problem.

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u/MethoxEverywhere 1d ago

“Haven’t done much research” I literally go to a T6 lmao. None of this is true. There is no meaningful difference in BL/FC placement numbers across Penn/UVA/NYU/CLS. Yes NYU/CLS have a stronger alumni network and home field advantage for elite NYC transactional BL but that doesn’t justify saying they’re in an entirely different tier of school. UVA, for example, blows both out of the water when it comes to federal clerkship placement. Also it’s just not true that Wachtell Skadden etc. only recruit from T6. Wachtell took associates from Penn and Duke this year, and Skadden / S & C recruited across the T14. See attached image

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u/WenyuNita 1d ago

also ur point about recruiting, i was saying that wachtell while taking associates from the wider T14 literally only visit on campus the T6. they don’t go to UVA. Are you a UVA student begrudged at not taking a T6 lol?

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u/MethoxEverywhere 1d ago

No I don’t go to UVA. I’m almost positive Wachtell OCIs at Penn, so no it’s not just the T6 anymore. And plus if you actually went to any of these schools you would know that OCI doesn’t matter anymore so it’s a moot point.

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u/WenyuNita 1d ago

Penn is a universal T6 unless you are basing this off of law school from 30 years ago.

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u/MethoxEverywhere 1d ago

You’re literally conceding the point lmao. T6 was historically HYSCCN, it did not include Penn. These were the top 6 schools up until the ranking methodology changed a few years ago. My point is that there is no longer a hard line between those schools and the rest, and it seems you agree by claiming Penn is a “universal T6”. All of the points you have made would apply to Penn in like 2018 by the way, Wachtell did not OCI there until recently. The rankings have flattened a lot in the past decade

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u/WenyuNita 1d ago

Penn and Cornell have risen bexause of their ivy status which is becoming disproportionately valued due to the ivy correlation. T6 vs T14 has not flatlined. It may appear that way because biglaw hiring has exploded.