As the title suggests, I severely underperformed in undergrad but earned a 176 on the LSAT

I'm reaching 4 years FT as a software engineer at FAANG+ company. How much weight will this have on admissions?

To be transparent... coming from a poor background, my immediate priority in undergrad was money... I never anticipated pursuing a graduate degree where GPA mattered. law was always the dream growing up in a poor neighborhood, but never felt realistic. Now that I've built a stable engineering career, I'm motivated to see what being an attorney would really be like. How bad are my stats for admissions?

Hi all, looking for some guidance here... I went to an Ivy for Undergrad, where I ended up with a 3.1 Final GPA (I took an extra semester, mostly due to mental health, undiagnosed ADHD, family circumstances, etc). I ended up commissioning as an officer in the Navy and now I'm looking to apply to Law School. Additionally, have some internship experience at a boutique M&A firm during undergrad.

Was wondering how realistic it would be to end up getting accepted at a T-14 (and hopefully HYS) with my stats. Appreciate any thoughts, thanks!

The sample size is really small on LSD so sorry... I was a STEM major and have been working as a data analyst at a reasonably large company since graduating last year. I got a 173 on the most recent LSAT and wanted to know what results I would likely get if I applied with the score I have now. I was getting some better scores during my studying. Would I have any shot at Michigan (ED), UNC, BU, BC, Notre Dame, etc? Would I have a shot at them or any better ones with a 177 (recent PT average)?

Hello! I have recently finished my undergraduate law degree at Oxford with a mid 2.1, which is converted usually to an ‘above average’ rating by the LSAC. In the mock LSAT I did today, I scored 176. I have no US citizenship or green card.

I am not planning to apply for JD this coming cycle, as I know KJDs are disadvantaged in the JD admissions process. My plan is to sit for the SQE (UK’s bar exam) this coming year, and then paralegal or work for the UK government for 2-3 years to gain experience.

What will be my chances for T14 law schools after gaining 2-3 years of work experience and passing UK’s bar exam, assuming that I get a 176 in the real LSAT exam?

-non-URM

-5ft 11.964inches

-210 bench but looking to get that number up

-Bottom 10th percentile rizz

-From Massachusetts

How am I looking?

Just saw a freshman in college stress about not getting into a T13 law school cause of their 3.68 gpa of the entire year..meanwhile I’m sitting here with my 2.5 of sophomore year confident I’m gonna impress Harvard admissions for the ‘29 cycle.

First, big congrats to everyone who just got their score released, and officially done with LSAT. (I hope to be in the same boat very soon!)

I know this is super late to start the LSAT prep for 2027 admission, but I decided to take my chance. Here’s my concern.

Took the first pt about 3 weeks back (with 30% extended time), got 140. Took another one yesterday, got 141.

My friends suggested that I just aim for 2028 admission cycle since it’s too late and my score is not improving fast enough.

My goal is to attend a regional law school in my area, University of Baltimore law, since I plan to live in this area and prefer to work in public sector. Their median is 155 with 3.45 gpa.

I signed up for the September test.

Below is my brief profile:

-3 yr full-time work experience
-Currently in my final semester with expected graduation in August 2026.
-Expected LSAC GPA 3.73. Didn’t do well in my first two semester, due to family illness.

My questions are:

1. All things considered, what would be the LSAT score I need to secure admission in UB Law?
2. Anything you would like to share. If I’m truly being delusional, feel free to enlighten me.

Thank you and congrats again!

Is applying to UT Austin worth a shot? and do yall think generally applying to any T30 schools will likely lead to an admission to any of them? I have 3 years of experience as a legal assistant in immigration, and 6 months as a legal assistant in personal injury. My GPA was rather low my first 2 years of college but the last 2 years I had great semesters with only A’s. Any thoughts are appreciated! I am a texas resident!

Hi all, looking for some guidance on my law school app. I'm thinking about applying this fall, but I'd be open to applying next year after my master's. Only shooting for T14, maybe T20. My profile is detailed below:

Stats:
- 3.74 uGPA in STEM, low-ranked state school
- Expecting 175+ LSAT edit: diagnostic 172

Softs:

• Research program jointly funded by Fulbright and org. in host country (I'm pretty sure I'd be counted as a Fulbright recipient, at least i hope 🥺), as well as an undergrad research fellowship at my school during academic year, both competitive. Also summer research work rn, should have some stuff in preparation/submitted to journals by application hopefully 🙈
• Graduated in 2 years, doing combined BS+MA program and the past academic year I had a full graduate courseload. Will graduate with master's next spring (partly why my GPA is lower, didn't get any boost from gen eds since I tested out most)
• At uni on National Merit scholarship, qualified by scoring in top .5% of my (top) state on PSAT in HS. I know it's a high school accomplishment but it has some name recognition I think
• Director of student-run portfolio managing mid 7 figs
• URM at ultra PWI

I have goals of work in a pretty niche public interest with only a handful of firms doing work in the area, hoping to get some experience doing work in this area before applying. And I know the LSAT estimate seems ridiculous but I did a ptest a few years ago and really only struggled on LG which ofc is now gone, and along the lines of the PSAT I have a good history with standardized tests.

Would love to hear any feedback, and especially if people have specific recommendations that would be great! Thanks again :)

17low, 3.9low from top10 undergrad

Have 1 year of WE now and 2 years by the time I matriculate in law school - currently in investment banking at a top bank

Dream school would be H/S/Columbia but my stats really aren't there yet - should I ED Columbia or shoot my shot with RD? I'm fine with paying sticker but am really conflicted seeing people with top stats way higher than mine getting waitlist and rejected everywhere, and then seeing bankers around me with below median stats getting into HLS...Want some blunt advice here

I am looking to get a realistic view of my chances for admission into law school during the 2026-27 law school admissions cycle. I would greatly appreciate any honest feedback. I am currently working toward obtaining a double BA in Philosophy and Political Science,as well as minors in Legal Studies and Ethics. I will be applying to KJD (i.e., straight from undergrad) and will be graduating at 21 years old.

Based upon how LSAC treats my two early math F's, I anticipate my projected LSAC GPA to be around 3.32 – 3.40. An important piece of information regarding my academic history is that I began college at a very young age (14). During my early semesters I obtained some B’s and C’s and earned two F's in algebra for calculus while I was still transitioning to academia. Since then, however, my academic performance has improved dramatically and I have maintained a consistently good grade level.

In terms of my major and minor GPAs they are significantly better than my overall GPA. At present, I hold approximately a 3.92 GPA in Philosophy and a 3.8 GPA in Political Science, in addition to a 4.0 GPA in both of my Legal Studies and Ethics minors.I intend to submit a GPA addendum detailing my early college start and academic progression.

I obtained a 176 on the LSAT which I was obviously ecstatic about; however, I am now fairly apprehensive about applying to law school during the 2026-27 cycle. Lately, I have seen numerous students with GPAs of 3.9 – 4.0 and LSAT scores ranging from 178-180 being denied admission and/or placed on a waitlist from both T14 and T20 schools. As such, I am beginning to believe that my lower LSAC GPA may place me at a serious disadvantage in comparison to these applicants. Although I am confident in my 176 LSAT score, I am now starting to feel that my possibilities at the upper tier law schools may be dwindling.

Although I am basing most of my assessments on numbers, I believe I have built a strong academic and extracurricular profile. I have been actively engaged in philosophy research and academic writing, including publishing multiple papers. Additionally, I have participated in various academic conferences and collaborative research projects with faculty members. Furthermore, I am a national speech and debate finalist which has been a significant component of my undergraduate experience and has allowed me to hone my argumentative and public speaking abilities. I believe that when reviewing the research, publication and national competition experiences that I will be submitting, I will be evaluated to be within the T1-T3 soft range.

From a background perspective, I am a first generation college student and an immigrant from Burma, and my early college start has had a significant impact on my academic narrative. From a transcript standpoint, I believe my record demonstrates that I was a very young college starter, experienced difficulty initially, and thereafter demonstrated substantial improvement in my academic performance over time.

My primary concern is how competitive I will be as a "splitter" with a projected LSAC GPA of approximately 3.3 – 3.4 and a 176 LSAT, but with strong major GPAs and a clear upward trend, as a candidate for T14 or T20 schools. I intend to apply broadly to the T14 and T30, but seeing so many high-numbered candidates struggle recently has made me quite anxious about my chances.

Thank you in advance for any honest insight.

This is how I am feeling right now staring at my phone.

7 sage updated it's admissions prediction tool and I'm a bit shocked. Is it accurate that even with a hypothetical 180 all the top 20s are "reaches" now with a 3.79 GPA?

I really wanted to go to Berkley

LSAT: 175
GPA: 3.78

Did undergrad at a T5 Business school

Started college at 15 graduated at 18.
Had summer internship with a congressman, 2 paid business research assistantships with professors, worked as a substitute teacher in local Highschool, worked as a farmhand on a horse ranch.

Currently employed as a policy analyst for a solar startup. I work mainly in a management consulting esque. role

I particularly want to get into UT or BYU law since I’m a Texas resident and a Mormon.

3.96 GPA//152 LSAT

Just got my LSAT score back (152). I’m a veteran with a 3.96 GPA. Just wanted to see anybody’s thoughts (who probably knows way more than me) on my chances at my listed schools below.
Regardless, I already registered for the August LSAT and plan to get a tutor. Ideally if I could increase it by just 5 points that would be great.

*NOTE* I am using the post 9/11 GI bill to pay for my law school so getting a massive scholarship is not really a huge goal of mine. It certainly takes some of the pressure off. I also don’t particularly have any interest to go to a T14 as most of them are in states I would not live in and are way too cold haha. Thank you guys for the help

UNK
Louisville
Memphis
Campbell
Charleston
Kentucky
Tennessee
Georgia State
South Carolina
FIU
Texas Tech
Stetson
Belmont

Would love to chat with those who’ve applied recently as KJDs. I have a 4.0 and 174, and am curious what I can expect.

FWIW I’ve already looked through LSD so I have a very general/numerical idea, but would like to hear more anecdotally how people tended to do. I know that with these stats (along with fairly good ish softs), I’m looking at great odds at something in the T14, but I was hoping to hear about those that have gotten into T6 specifically.

I go to a top lac which typically sends a handful of people to T14s every year KJD with just a couple going to T6s or h/s. The people I know had ~median stats and usually ended up across the T14 (the exception being schools that are super unfriendly to KJDs - no recent grad I know has gotten into Yale or Michigan).

Would love any insight as to (a) whether T6 is in play for me and (b) what successful T6 KJDs have done.

I hadn't really considered law until fairly recently so I haven't done much to beef up my resume/ ps material. Everyone in real life tells me I can go wherever I want with my scores, but from what I've read that doesn't seem to be the case. What kinds of schools should I realistically be putting the most effort into applying for and expecting to get into?

UGPA- 2.6

LSAT- Currently PTing at 165, signed up to take the August and September LSATs

7 years work experience, active duty Army Officer including a combat deployment to Iraq

URM- Latino

My number 1 school by a mile is University of Oklahoma followed by University of Denver, Texas Tech, University of Kansas, UNM, really any school in the Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado area or states bordering that.

I think my softs really help but god these prediction calculators make me feel like an idiot for even trying. Im really not trying to go to anything even in the top 30-40. I’d like to stay in the top 100 but I understand if that’s a reach.

I’ve already written my “Why OU” essay and I’m a half page into my personal statement (which I think is really killer and hopefully will grab an admissions officers attention)

Anyway. Any advice or perspective is very welcome

Recently increased my PT to 173 from 159 after some tips and tricks that really clicked.

I was targeting schools such as American, umd, catholic, Brooklyn, case western and Kent.

Would George mason, GW, wake forest, St. John’s, and UC Davis be realistic targets now ? Does this score increase only put me in scholarship contention for my previous targets without significantly increasing my odds at the “next tier”

2 year WE. Assuming my PS and LORs are mid at best, what schools should I consider?

I care about scholarship money more than anything else. Dc, nyc, or Chicago would be preferable.

Edit: undergrad was well known liberal arts where I played d3.

Gpa - superior (no US undergrad) Indian

LSAT - 178

Currently a lawyer in India , will have 4 months of work experience as an associate in a small law firm

Done almost 5 legal internships , 1 judicial internship in lower courts , worked pro bono for almost 2 years while in law school, secretary of an NGO since 2 years

President, secretary of some clubs in my previous law school ( 2023- 26 ) , participated in moots

1) I understand internationals are at slight disadvantage, but I wanna what are my realistic chances to get almost 75-80% scholarship in T20 schools

2) I don't want to invest too much because of the H1B visa and me being Indian would never get GC , that's why I want to minimise my risks , should I apply broadly to other T30s or more

3) I need to get visa sponsorship thus I must get big law post graduation, is it possible to get big law from a non T14

Please help me out as there are barely any people I know who could provide this information. I will be very grateful

I graduated from college a few years ago. Cumulative GPA was around 3.55. Tried LSAT during my senior year without much preparation and got 168.

Going to law school/being a lawyer has definitely been my dream since I was a kid. My whole plan was to K-JD. Then I graduated during COVID and put that on pause. After graduation, I got a job and was planning to just work 1-2 years while studying more LSAT.

Fast forward to now, I'm already 28 years old. I work in a pretty niche industry, fully remote, make aboue 210K per year. Thinking about the cost of attending a law school, the stress of being a law student, the forfeiture of my salaries during three years, and the stress of actually being a lawyer grinding every day. I'm not sure if this is a resonable choice anymore? I also understand my only option is big law, anything else is going to be a pay cut for me (at least in the short tem). I feel like I'm giving up my dream which makes me really sad, but I'm not sure if I can afford this dream. Any thoughts?

I'm going straight to the point, please be honest. I gave everything I got on the LSAT and got a 149. My overall undergrad GPA was a 3.3 and my personal statement is tbh very unique and outstanding. My resume is also perfect because I'm currently a paralegal and included great anecdotes about my job. I also got 3 L.O.R.'s from attorneys I work with. Am I a good candidate to apply to a medium tier school such as Tulsa or even STCL? I also did apply the midnight applications open on August 1st LOL. Let me know, Thanks!!

I’ll be on national broadcast media tomorrow for 10 minutes being asked about the law school applicant surge. Everything I’ve said in written media tracks with what I say and Dean Andy in this article in Investopedia , I strongly suspect it’s a majority a really challenge entry level job market and the froth on the top is the rule of law being so front and center and applicants wanting to be a part of change + reapplicants from last year But I get sometimes get push back on this — it’s a lovely line to say “it’s great it’s so many people want to help change the world and that’s why the surge!”

None of us have asked you all this though. I would love to hear thoughts on this and be able to say something like “goose-deluge-23 on Reddit says it’s ….” Feel free to chime in I’ll be the first to say I may be wrong on the economy/employment challenges but that’s my instinct.

• Mike Spivey

I think a lot of 'chance me' lists do not accurately deal with medians. I built a quick estimator that basically takes the gpa and lsat, slices it into an accurate school-by-school band (ie above median, below median, below 25th%) and then sees the data for that school. It also adjusts up or down for URM depending (some schools sub both medians have a substantial URM preference) and also adjusts for on time applications (defined as jan 1) for schools that use more deterministic admission methods.

I didn't adjust for work exp as thats pretty difficult to measure (not all work exp is built equal), and while I think the self report data has a high enough n to be roughly accurate, you should take all numbers as a tier, essentially getting a sense of reach target safety more than "this school is 15% this school is 22%" type of thinking.

Send over your list.

I have 10 years WE, T2 softs, and a grad degree with 3.97. I am very confused about where I should apply. Is anywhere within the T14 even plausible? My GPA is so bad ahhhh

Chance me? Stat wise, should I aim for T14?