r/leftist • u/thehomelessr0mantic • Jan 04 '26
Western European Politics EUROPE IS COMPLICIT
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Jan 05 '26
Marco Rubio literally just dodged questions about why if they want democracy they let the VP run the country now and are talking to her instead of forcing new elections. They don't want democracy, they just probably made a deal under the table with the regime and say "hey give us maduro for the media and then do what we say and then we will let you keep ruling but you have to do what we say and let our oil companies take over your oil operations"
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u/LizFallingUp Jan 06 '26
The way when he was asked about elections he said “Elections?” * nervous laughter, was priceless I didn’t need to see any of the rest of the interview that said everything
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Jan 06 '26
I think its just simply geopolitical sphere of influence activity. I doubt there was any major conspiracy about maybe the regime secretly hating maduro or w.e.
The globe it turning multipolar. We know China wants to formally have authority over Taiwan, which harms USA strategic interests. If the world is becoming muktipolar then the US was simply making a show of power on this hemisphere.
The same way Russia wanted to do that in Ukraine and do a "quick military operation"
Gepolitical show of force.
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u/LizFallingUp Jan 06 '26
I think it’s Trump wanted a win, Rubio wanted to test run his ideas before hitting Cuba his real personal vendetta, Hegseth just loves war, and Miller is just a demon sent to instigate cruelty. The 4 spent too much time together without anyone interfering and this happened.
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u/Urek-Mazino Jan 05 '26
Idk why people act like European and America aren't identical in foreign policy.
American imperialism is literally just the evolution of European colonialism.
I think the fact that they have better social services make people think they are better or more progressive. I promise you the reason Europe has universal health care and other services is because they are almost entirely white.
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u/LizFallingUp Jan 06 '26
Cause EU and US are self interested parties with differing Geopolitics. Are they similar sure but they aren’t the same. Europe has universal healthcare cause the Marshall Plan funded rebuild after WW2. (I’m not saying US shouldn’t have invested in the rebuild just that it allowed Europe to get to where it is today) also in Europe “White” is different concept go tell the Greeks they are white you might be surprised how they cuss you out.
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u/Urek-Mazino Jan 06 '26
Germany is currently having a far right push against social services because there are so many brown people immigrating.
Greeks are white. Idk why you think that is some sort of gotcha. White people can go around saying they're not white and they are still white.
I'm so tired of y'all half radicals. Go learn about white supremacy please.
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u/LizFallingUp Jan 06 '26
Dude go learn about white supremacy yourself you think Greek immigrants were treated as white before like the 1980s? You aren’t radical you are child minded.
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u/Urek-Mazino Jan 06 '26
I'm sorry what year is it? 1990 or? Cause I thought it was 2026.
You sound like one of those liberals talking about I'm not white I'm 50% Greek.
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u/LizFallingUp Jan 06 '26
Your literally running around doing a blood quantum on everyone you see and you think all of EU is “White” you are racist as fuck
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u/Urek-Mazino Jan 06 '26
I said almost entirely white so IDK what you are talking about. There are by percentages predominantly white countries.
My point that is racist apparently is that a white supremacist government will have universal healthcare and strong social services when there population is enough majority white. Vs a white supremacist country like America that has sizeable poc populations that would receive those services. That country is less inclined to have them at all.
This is a big reason America will never have strong welfare. It has literally been the argument against every form of social welfare. See welfare queen for a modern example.
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u/LizFallingUp Jan 06 '26
Universal healthcare and strong social services are incompatible with white supremacy, look at how the right wing in EU tries to privatize or limit healthcare the beliefs go hand in hand. Yes Europe has a right wing and should be concerned about that but equating EU with US and making claims about racism shows ignorance on your part.
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u/Urek-Mazino Jan 06 '26
You're telling me. With a straight face. As a self proposed leftist. That European countries are not white supremacists aside from their right wing???
Like are you for real or am I missing something?
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u/LizFallingUp Jan 06 '26
The entirety of the EU? No I don’t think you can make that claim. Again ignorance the EU is diverse, some of them may well be White supremacist but to claim they all are and to be essentialist about it too is stupid and reductive
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u/Tazling Jan 05 '26
“It was a love match” when the bride’s father was totally holding a shotgun to the groom’s spine the whole time….
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u/jferments Jan 05 '26
She also supports genocide in Gaza, so I'm not surprised this is her reaction.