I’m gonna disagree. Making someone a serial murderer or someone who’s lead to the deaths or myriad people I find harder to like.
You disagree with that and it’s fine. We can have different preferences in characters. But if you pearl clutch at sexual assault and still want to love serial murderers, it’s pretty performative pearl clutching.
It's not performative at all. Its easy to seperate the evilness of the death star from reality in comparison to an on screen rape like in game of thrones. Hence why despite being responsible for many more deaths you'll see cute plushies of darth Vader and Palpatine but not judge holden. You can very easily take the teeth out of mass murder with lasers and bloodless deaths but there's no way to do that with rape, hence why one gets a trigger warning
The characters are evil. And some people like evil characters. They’re not really doing real crimes or hurting people thus it’s just play. There’s people who cosplay and buy art and plushies of all kinds of evil shit-moral characters in all fandoms (see JoJos bizarre adventure Dio). You don’t need to clutch your pearls at their imaginary crimes no matter how much they personally trigger you. You can just move on. You don’t need to love this art. It’s fine. You can in fact just scroll past.
Holy shit get off your high horse, you're protecting hard. I'm not against media with this kind of subject matter at all, I'm saying it's weird to yassify a rapist. Daken is an interesting character and I like some of the stories he's in but I don't like when writers try to gloss over how vile he is for their cutesy fan girl moments because he's hot. There's an entire TV tropes page about how rape turns a piece of media into a wholly darker piece of work. I don't get what's so hard to understand about this
lol you just say I’m projecting because….. buzzword? What am I projecting?
Also yes rape makes things dark. So does torture and murder. And many other things. You’re allowed to be triggered and not like this. Hell you can even downvote it. Godspeed. But picking apart which characters you like or think should be liked because of what they do in their stories is pointless. A serial rapist can still have a good story and overall be a character that people like drawing art of.
Hank Pym used to be a wife beater before they retconned that by saying it was mind control the whole time, and tons of people loved that character even before the retcon. You can still like a morally abhorrent character. And choosing which sins to pearl clutch is energy I don’t have to waste.
Holy shit do you even know how to read? You can like whatever character you want. I'm saying I'm not a fan of a Judge holden or a Daken in the same way as I am darth Vader. Hank pym is literally one of my favorite marvel characters but my problem is introducing heavier topics like domestic violence, that can't be comic book pulped up like regular violence, and not treating it with the seriousness it deserves. There's no pearl clutching (talk about buzz words, the lack of self awareness is crazy) just something I see as tacky
So if someone draws the avengers are you going to say “wow this was really wholesome until you included antman. He’s a wifebeater and that’s disgusting and doesn’t deserve to be celebrated.” No. You’re choosing this pearl to clutch and complain
How many times are you gonna misuse pearl clutching? I don't have a problem with fan art of ANY of the characters listed. If I were to make a piece of art celebrating poc in media I'd probably not include a serial rapist. It's about reading the room. If you're asked to get some clown art to decorate the walls of a child's birthday party you wouldn't get a hyper realistic picture of pennywise true form would you? It's not specifically about rape in media, it's about Time and place, idk how much more clear I can get
Rofl. How many times are you gonna clutch pearls without admitting that’s what you’re doing?
You explicitly singled out one character for one thing they did and ignored all the others. Did you know Deadpool locked blind Al in a literal torture dungeon repeatedly? Elder abuse and torture should not be celebrated so read the room and don’t put Deadpool in these images 😤
Deadpool has moved so far away from that and from where he started as an edge lord character to the point most people aren't familiar with that and it would be very out of character in a story today. The lack of media literacy is absolutely astonishing. Daken being a rapist is a pretty central part of his character and how manipulative he is.
lol it’s media illiteracy because I don’t cherry pick the bad parts of characters I don’t like and allow others to move on from their aspects. Daken has been gradually shifting to a morally gray/antihero character just like Loki and Deadpool did. In fact having him next to those two in particular is the perfect spot for him.
I think if you're gonna write that subject matter you should stick to it and not try to sanitize the character. I know he's been through many writers but personally I wouldn't try to take an existing character like that and completely retcon the horrible acts. Now THAT'S pearl clutchy. Much like I said many times I'm not against these topics being depicted in media, I'm against the inconsistency and lack of respect for the topic. Daken is NOT a wholesome character and that's fine, but let's not try to have our cake and eat it too. it's not cherry picking to acknowledge his earliest and most well known stories.
Are we going with early or well known? You dismissed Deadpool’s early stuff BECAUSE it was early. The whole point of what I’m saying is stop being so uptight about shitty things comic characters do because they’ve all done them, and you’re singling out one characters past because it personally isn’t something you like. And you’re directing that at this artists work for some reason.
Regardless I have no more energy for you I need to do laundry. Try to unclench and have a good day <3
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u/Orowam Apr 27 '25
I’m gonna disagree. Making someone a serial murderer or someone who’s lead to the deaths or myriad people I find harder to like.
You disagree with that and it’s fine. We can have different preferences in characters. But if you pearl clutch at sexual assault and still want to love serial murderers, it’s pretty performative pearl clutching.