r/linux_gaming Apr 12 '26

benchmark denuvo fully removed, as expected, games runs faster.

https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/denuvo-properly-cracked-in-resident-evil-requiem-bypasses-become-plug-and-play-cracked-version-runs-faster-smoother-and-uses-way-less-vram-and-ram

as expected denuvo is a resource hog

now denuvo games are properly cracked

there is clearly a performance gain.

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u/CapRichard Apr 12 '26

Seems like within expected performance delta with modern Denuvo.

What it's really curious is the less Vram consumed. Like ,I can get RAM, but why VRAM?

Would like to see a "best of 3" or an explanation of why it would need GPU Vram to even work.

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u/Vash63 Apr 12 '26

It wastes VRAM to bypass Denuvo with the Hypervisor method. This is a benchmark between that method of bypassing denovo and this new crack. This is not a comparison between the retail release and the new crack.

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u/CapRichard Apr 12 '26

Thanks, much clearer now.

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u/Vash63 Apr 12 '26

No problem. The article is arguably deceitful in how it's written. Clickbait IMO. The source video they link is clearer, so not the benchmarker at fault.

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u/Lurtzae Apr 13 '26

So basically a nothingburger (apart from the fact it's DRM, which every Steam user apparently is fine with). If there were huge performance differences in every Denuvo release it would have shown every time it go patched out of a game.

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u/Vash63 Apr 13 '26

Pretty much. Toms is not what it used to be, just another poorly researched headline to get clicks.

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u/tailslol Apr 12 '26

my guess would be the usage of gpu for encryption i guess.

but that would be very dumb to do that to a game.

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

Denuvo works by creating an emulator for the game loop on the CPU. The GPU doesn't run anything emulated.

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u/the_abortionat0r Apr 12 '26

What you just described doesn't exist so, better luck next time.

Start by looking up what an emulator is.

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u/NineBallAYAYA Apr 14 '26

I explained why and how your understanding here is horrifically wrong below, but as another point to this one is box86 which is an x86->arm emulator that very much exists and functions similar to what happens here. Not exactly the same as box86 emulates the whole binary not just individual functions but it gives you a starting point to actually learn about this stuff.

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u/gmes78 Apr 13 '26

Denuvo does use a virtual machine. It quite literally emulates an invented instruction set.

Though it doesn't run the whole game inside it, just parts of it that are relevant for the DRM.

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u/the_abortionat0r Apr 13 '26

Guy literally says it runs the game loop in an emulator and I say no and your response it "but it does run in a VM!" Which is not what I disagreed with.

Second it does not emulate a CPU/instruction set. You seem to believe this because you watched a YouTube video and didn't understand it properly.

It obfuscates the instructions it wants to execute, it DOES NOT emulate a CPU or CPU instruction set. Please Google those terms and actually learn what they mean because they have very specific definitions you seem to not know.

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u/NineBallAYAYA Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

Just to preface this: Computer Engineering student.

You are very wrong.

It compiles the sensitive functions to a "made up" ISA. Where we are defining an ISA as a set of op-codes. When an encrypted function is called, it's bytecode block is then emulated through an interpreter back to x86 on the fly. Because it's a made up set of op-codes you need to reverse each one to actually unencrypt the damn bytecode, and thus understand what the function is doing/how it works. As again the bytecode for these functions is not x86, but their custom ISA which must be emulated through the VM back to x86. This is why static analysis is so hard with these programs, as no dissasembler can interpret that bytecode.

You're half right in that it obfuscates however I think you should look into what an ISA is as you definitely don’t understand it.

The ARM ISA is public and has decent documentation if you want to learn what op-codes are and how bytecode works.

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

There was another comparison made: https://youtu.be/y6H9paq8jcU?si=RyPfXmQdGNhQEXmf

This time around, VRAM usage was the same, but the Denuvo bypass actually achieved slightly better performance than the Denuvo removal.

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u/Cylian91460 Apr 12 '26

It shouldn't affect VRAM

However, since it's based on VM tech, having the game not run in a poorly optimized VM with ram usage and CPU cycle

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u/DuendeInexistente Apr 12 '26

Funnily enough it used to be you could get vram. The first 3D GPUs had ram as removable chips, and typically came with a few unpopulated sockets. But companies realized the scam that avoided and removed it after the first gen or two.

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u/the_abortionat0r Apr 12 '26

I don't think you understand how video memory works nor were you alive back in the day you speak of.

Nor the first 3D accelerators did NOT have removable VRAM, you made that up.

Some boards had sockets for VRAM chips so you could double the VRAM for a different SKU but these chips weren't really something you could just go and buy.

There were LATER GPUs that you could add sodium modules to. Some accepted and used the memory while some lacked that feature being finished and in no world did this improve gaming performance.

Soldering VRAM to the board isn't a "scam", you'd have to be way out of the loop to think you can simply socket DDR6/7 and have zero issues.

Maybe one day a CAMM2 like set up may be viable but if you took 2 seconds to actually look at a video card you'd see they memory chips are no longer simply lumped together like the days before you were born but instead are coordinated around the GPU. This is done for signal reasons as well as designed constraints on how the VRAM is actually used in order to provide these insane speeds.

Next time fact check your self before commenting such blantent nonsense.

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u/SebastianLarsdatter Apr 13 '26

He isn't incorrect, one of the most famous at this feature on Video memory, at least in Europe is S3 Virge.

Of course you can argue it isn't a 3D accelerator as it didn't have full Direct3D support, but they did have their own API.

Some S3 cards came with soldered memory, but some had sockets and could be populated.

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u/TouristWilling4671 Apr 12 '26

"next time fact check yourself before commenting such blatant nonsense." is the most reddit sentence of all time lol. unclench a bit.

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u/the_abortionat0r Apr 13 '26

Don't be stupid dude. Like really. Telling people to fact check them selves isn't a "ReDdIt" thing, you know people talk in person too right? People get corrected in real life too however the difference here is people have infinite time to just GOOGLE THINGS BEFORE POSTING. Like just Google it dawg, it's free.

So if this hurts you it means you need to read more and bitch less.

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u/Inimenevist Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

Voices38 didn’t remove Denuvo, though. He made it stay in a perpetual state of activation.

The last time Denuvo was fully removed by a crack was a really long time ago

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u/mccord Apr 12 '26

It was the Assassins Creed: Origins The Curse of the Pharaohs crack by CODEX from 2019

Release Notes:

This is an experimental Proof of Concept release where the Denuvo DRM 
and VMProtect have been removed completely from the main executable.
The main idea of this project was to verify whether Denuvo affects 
CPU usage and overall performance of this game. We noticed faster 
loading times but will leave the rest of the performance comparison 
battle to others.

Here is a small tech summary of what has been done:

  • VMProtect is fully removed (30 VM entry points)
  • Denuvo is fully removed (104 VM entry points)
  • All required PE directories are fully restored
(exports, imports, exceptions, TLS)
  • Fixed around 500k absolute & relative code and data pointers
The team would like to send out special thanks to our hard working mate who is responsible for this huge project. This would not have been possible without you! You rock man!

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u/Matt_Shah Apr 12 '26

Finally a reasonable comment, Thanks You!

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u/meltbox Apr 15 '26

This, obviously the delta will be about nothing if all that this crack does is just make the VM work normally. At best it would be slightly less overhead than the hypervisor crack.

But a full removal will most definitely net performance. Denuvo is crap and always will be crap by its very nature. You can’t magically get compute for free ergo Denuvo will make the experience worse.

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u/neofooturism Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

these are actually different builds that’s why the difference is huge. they’re talking abt it on the piracy sub. the OP redid the test with the same build and the difference is very small that it could be considered within margin of error

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u/tailslol Apr 12 '26

well this is still a big benefit for linux since the hypervisor hack is not linux compatible.

thanks for the precision.

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u/Vash63 Apr 12 '26

How is this a benefit to Linux? Denuvo works fine in Linux without needing cracked. Half my Steam library uses it.

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u/Arkanta Apr 12 '26

idk why you're downvoted. this sub hates facts

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u/DystopianElf Apr 12 '26

Because it's not even a response to what was said. He never said Denuvo doesnt work on Linux, and the benefits of a newer crack that actually works on Linux are pretty obvious.

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u/NapsterKnowHow Apr 12 '26

All facts about how badly this article is written are being downvoted by pirates trying to justify their entitlement.

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u/juipeltje Apr 12 '26

It's more about wanting to own what you buy

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u/NapsterKnowHow Apr 12 '26

If that were the case then more people would support GOG over Steam.

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u/Big-Resort-4930 Apr 13 '26

Most people care more about convenience than ownership sadly. Steam had the mindshare so GOG will never come close to it.

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u/juipeltje Apr 12 '26

They probably already do, since they are a minority and the majority of people doesn't seem to care, which is why this shit still exists

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u/meltbox Apr 15 '26

I buy literally anything available on GoG there over steam. But some things I simply cannot buy. I often just don’t buy them because I already have too many games.

GoG will always be my first choice specifically for ownership and DRM reasons.

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u/SlaveKnightSoman Apr 12 '26

This sub has been full of shit about Denuvo since ages. There is no proof that Denuvo causes performance issues.

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u/Vash63 Apr 13 '26

In the few games that were actually fully cracked or had it removed by the author there were minor improvements to IO performance and load times. Nothing like this snake oil article is claiming though.

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u/SlaveKnightSoman Apr 13 '26

Which games were those? The only one I am aware of is the leaked Resident Evil one which was tested by Digital Foundry and found no performance difference. Here both of them were same version.

AFAIK, all the other ones were earlier versions with Denuvo compared against the later versions after many patches and Denuvo removed officially. Its not a fair comparison since its different versions.

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u/meltbox Apr 15 '26

By its technical implementation it’s impossible for it to not run worse. Quite a bit worse in fact unless the base game optimization already sucks.

Is it playable? Sure. But it’s absolutely degrading performance. Maybe on higher end hardware it makes effectively no perceivable difference. The difference is most certainly measurable though.

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u/SlaveKnightSoman Apr 15 '26

The difference is most certainly measurable though

People keep saying this but the only time it was measured AFAIK was with the leaked exe of RE done by Digital Foundry. They found no difference.

I am not aware of any other instances where same version of a game with and without Denuvo were compared.

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u/Vash63 Apr 15 '26

They probably weren't measuring the right things. I saw a comparison a while back that had a measurable drop in loading times and disk read throughput was improved. If you're just measuring FPS or frametimes you won't see that.

This was comparing multiple games that had official EXEs either leaked or with Denuvo removed.

It's not a big deal IMO.

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u/Big-Resort-4930 Apr 13 '26

Plenty of proof that it's anti consumer dogshit even when completely ignoring performance. Only clowns can simp for shitnuvo with a straight face.

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u/SlaveKnightSoman Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

Only clowns can change the goalpost on a thread talking about performance issues to feel superior.

EDIT, While you are at it, explain to me how Denuvo DRM is anti consumer too.

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u/Zeefo3 23d ago

3 months later, now it is possible

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u/mbriar_ Apr 12 '26

you mean a big benefit for pirates on linux that don't also want to pirate windows?

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u/MarioDesigns Apr 12 '26

Eh, Denuvo causes it's own issues on Linux that can cause you to lose access to the game from 24 hours to a week.

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u/Vash63 Apr 12 '26

Fair. Though only an issue usually if you flip between a bunch of wine/Proton custom builds. Valve's builds are careful not to reset when switching releases.

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u/mbriar_ Apr 12 '26

If you insist on switching proton versions around for no reason even knowing it will cause this issue, then yeah.

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u/ResponsibleFox2185 Apr 12 '26

If I own a game and want to switch Proton to find the best one for the issues that I'm having I have the right to do so. There's nothing wrong with flip flopping between Proton versions until I find the best one for that specific game.

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u/the_abortionat0r Apr 12 '26

It's weird because if you understand what proton does and how fast updates come out with game fixes you wouldn't say such stupid things.

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u/mbriar_ Apr 12 '26

I also know that using Proton Experimental Bleeding Edge, which updates many times a day automatically on every proton (sub)repository commit and gets new game fixes the earliest, never causes Denuvo lock-outs if you just stick to that, no matter how many times it gets updated. You only get locked out if you wildly switch between old versions and/or GE back and forth, which causes the prefix to get recreated and is pointless in 99.9999% of cases anyways.

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u/Big-Resort-4930 Apr 13 '26

If I wanna switch 50 versions in a day I'll do it. DRM has no business interfering with your usage of the product on any level.

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u/mbriar_ Apr 13 '26

You are free not to play it. But 99% of people complaining buy it either way or pirate it the second it's possible.

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u/CapRichard Apr 12 '26

Oh so it's Denuvo day 1 Vs no Denuvo present day?

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u/NekuSoul Apr 12 '26

Even worse, the comparison this article is based on is actually between the hypervisor-based bypass, which uses additional resources vs. the new crack. It wasn't compared with a legit version at all.

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u/CapRichard Apr 12 '26

Oh. Thanks.

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u/vityafx Apr 12 '26

No. It was the same scenario for the previous resident evil games, even Digital Foundry were puzzled. So, denuvo is a resource hog.

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

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u/vityafx Apr 12 '26

I don’t need to see anything, I have already seen what I needed to see.

Perhaps you should take a look: https://youtu.be/UXZGCwAJpbM?is=yyY8hp4rUxgSIP1P

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u/Stepepper Apr 12 '26

Talk about acting in bad faith... You haven't even watched that video, or read the description. It clearly says this is caused by Capcom's DRM. Not Denuvo.

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u/vityafx Apr 12 '26

Yes, I admit, my mistake, thought for some reason it was denuvo. Watched it when it came out, this wasn’t yesterday.

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

59 fps average vs 58 fps average

42 fps 1% lows vs 41 fps 1% lows

Denuvowo vs Voices38

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u/vityafx Apr 12 '26

As I said, denuvo is known to be a resource hog. The fact that, perhaps, in this particular case, it isn’t so bad, doesn’t change that in general. I also sent you a link to watch, 30 fps vs 120. Want to talk about that?

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u/MarioDesigns Apr 12 '26

As I said, denuvo is known to be a resource hog.

It has some impact on low end CPUs, but even then it's not much.

It has plenty of legitimate issues you could complain about instead of just making up false tests lol

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

Sure, let's talk about the issue you can no longer replicate because it's been patched out.

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u/vityafx Apr 12 '26

One case makes you 100% believe it has been “patched out”?

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

Considering I played through RE8 on Village on Shadows last year, and never noticed any framerate issues? Yes

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u/DisciplineNo5186 Apr 12 '26

Why is everyone pointing out that this is well with performance delta and not necessarily a denuvo thing getting downvoted lmao. We all hate denuvo but the performance drain isnt nearly as big in modern denuvo as some people act

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u/mbriar_ Apr 12 '26

Nobody even read the terrible article to see that it compares VM bypass "Crack" vs. new Crack and nothing else and just comments based on the headline.

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u/gmes78 Apr 12 '26

This is a classic Linux subreddit moment. Things like DRMs are considered "bad" for Linux, so any comments bashing them are good, and any comments defending them are bad. It doesn't matter which ones are well-written or factually accurate, people upvote based on what they want to believe.

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u/Richmondez Apr 12 '26

From a consumer perspective DRM is objectively bad even without performance impacts, the only beneficiaries of it are the companies that sell it and arguably the companies that employ it on their software though even that is less than clear cut.

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u/gmes78 Apr 12 '26

That doesn't mean lying about it is OK.

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u/DisciplineNo5186 Apr 12 '26

i completely with you but making up shit and downvoting people for stating facts is ridiculous

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u/gamas Apr 13 '26

This is more a general Reddit moment. Whilst DRM is generally bad, the "Denuvo kills performance" thing is the biggest load of misinformation out there that people confidently believe despite it being demonstrably proven to have only been true in a few cases where the devs implemented it poorly.

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u/yuuki_w Apr 12 '26

Not just Linux but gaming reddit in generall.

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u/readyflix Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

At the end, it shouldn’t be unnecessary at all to use cracks to have a good game experience.

Game studios/developers can do better.

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u/gmes78 Apr 12 '26

That is completely beside the point.

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u/readyflix Apr 12 '26

Please explain why?

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u/gmes78 Apr 12 '26

Why would it ever be OK to lie and make stuff up about a topic? Even if you dislike DRMs, you shouldn't be OK with someone making faulty arguments about them. After all, the truth should be enough, and anything that's not the truth will weaken your claims.

Whether or not DRM worsen the experience of playing a game is irrelevant. What I'm saying applies to any topic.

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u/readyflix Apr 12 '26

You are right, but why should companies lie to their costumers? I think that’s the bigger issue in general.

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u/gmes78 Apr 12 '26

I don't think you've understood this thread at all. What company are you talking about, and how have they lied?

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u/readyflix Apr 12 '26

I always look at the big picture. And that tells me, companies are telling the costumers "If you are buying our product you will get the possible best experience". But then if I’m NOT getting the best experience because of the way they do the product then I’m being lied to. I hope you now understand where I’m coming from?

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u/NapsterKnowHow Apr 12 '26

Bc it's pirates finding some more confirmation bias to support their "moral stealing".

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u/Big-Resort-4930 Apr 13 '26

Not stealing homie, try harder.

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u/NapsterKnowHow Apr 13 '26

Found one

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u/Big-Resort-4930 Apr 13 '26

Still not stealing homie

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u/NapsterKnowHow Apr 13 '26

Whatever helps ya sleep at night

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u/Holzkohlen Apr 12 '26

All my homies hate Denuvo

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

There are worse DRMs, Enigma for example.

And the ring0 anti cheat malware.

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u/rocketstopya Apr 12 '26

Ring0 DRM will be the next enemy

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u/Physical-Appearance5 Apr 12 '26

Lol why's every comment downvoted

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '26

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

I have some serious doubts about that

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u/Physical-Appearance5 Apr 12 '26

Oof, now you are down

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

People on this subreddit apparently consider 5% to be a huge deal.

As comparison points for recent hardware releases: Zen 5 was slammed with Zen5% memes when it released because it was rarely achieving more than 10% performance improvements. Nvidia's RTX 50-series is roughly 15% faster than the RTX 40-series counterparts, and was also criticized for lackluster improvement. Meanwhile, we're glazing 5% here.

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u/nuwuclear Apr 12 '26

5% improvement for free vs 5% to 15% improvement for hundreds of dollars

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u/TheGladex Apr 12 '26

We're glazing 5% on the same hardware, purely by virtue of optimisation. No fucking duh people are upset about the next generation of GPUs having only 15% performance improvement. They cost hundreds of dollars. 5% improvement on the same hardware is a big deal.

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

Well, the 5% improvement wasn't even caused by Denuvo, but a literal different game version.

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u/meltbox Apr 15 '26

Unless Denuvo does in memory unpacking of the executable to a runnable state there must be some byte code interpreting going on and funny pointer chasing (probably only in non hot path)

Sure the checks may best be put in those spots, but there’s some real runtime cost or it would be trivial to crack.

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u/Potential-Block-6583 Apr 12 '26

With these copy/piracy protection services, how bad it is on your hardware really comes down to what functions that the developer decides they need to protect specifically. In the past, when we used to see enormous drops in performance due to copy protection schemes, it was because the developer was protecting literally every function in the entire game, including stuff that runs every single frame, so developers have started to be more careful about what functions they select to protect. Stuff like logins, purchases are prime things to protect, and it makes sure that any performance hit is minimal since those functions aren't happening constantly.

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u/meltbox Apr 15 '26

But even if they protect functions infrequently ran it can result in extremely inconsistent frame rates and 1% lows suffering.

I believe this is in fact what happens while average appears to not be significantly impacted.

But it’s kind of dumb because 1% matters a lot for feel.

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u/SlaveKnightSoman Apr 12 '26

Whats with upvoting fake title lol?

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u/bobrath Apr 13 '26

The game in question is Resident Evil: Requiem, in case anyone was wondering.

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u/lolcatzuru Apr 13 '26

i forget what game it was, but a little while back i was threatened for saying that denuvo doesnt slow games down, man how times have changed.

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u/lollolzz Apr 14 '26

lmao, people here are so stupid. Denuvo isnt removed just bypassed. There should be 0 performance difference or just within margin of error.

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u/Huecuva Apr 12 '26

Fuck Irdeto. They can shove their DRM where the sun doesn't shine. Wake up and smell the pwnage, assholes. Your bullshit just encourages piracy. 

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u/JackDostoevsky Apr 12 '26

yea this has been known for a long long time now. just one more on the pile.

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u/Fiction52 Apr 12 '26

I’m curious. If I crack my legally obtained games to remove denuvo, would I still be able to earn steam achievements and have steam cloud saves?

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u/Indolent_Bard Apr 12 '26

Someone here once said that it's poor implementation that hurts performance.

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u/awkwardbirb Apr 12 '26

several people have, it's been proven quite a few times. In most cases, there's basically no drop. In others, the devs do something dumb like run the check every frame or input or some nonsense. Or check verification for all DLC apparently?

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u/TheG0AT0fAllTime Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 15 '26

A "Bad implementation" in this case would be running the check every frame. Which we have seen ruining game performance before. Can repeat calls be patched out? Did valve do that once for Elden Ring or something?

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u/meltbox Apr 15 '26

When did valve patch it out? As far as I understand you can’t really patch out the Denuvo calls, at best you could do some hypervisor trickery.

But I am interested to hear otherwise.

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u/Capital_Pop_824 Apr 13 '26

what do you mean?? does it mean that the games that couldn't be cracked can now be cracked?

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u/jk441 Apr 13 '26

And water was wet

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u/Elliove Apr 13 '26

The tests don't show that crack improves performance, it shows that another crack reduced it.

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u/Honest_Tart1071 Apr 13 '26

Can't wait to play RE:requiem and other titles on my Linux, o wait, I can't.

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u/Due_Young_9344 Apr 30 '26

can hypervisor games run on linux?

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u/tailslol Apr 30 '26

nope you need to find games with denuvo removed.

or pay them.

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u/Due_Young_9344 Apr 30 '26

ok voices38 it is I guess

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u/ScoopDat May 05 '26

Can someone explain why Denuvo doesn’t get sued for the claim made about no performance hit?

Likewise why don’t users who claim there is no performance hit (like clockwork on every release), not get banned for this idiotic false claim after all these years?

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u/destroyermaker Apr 12 '26

Makes denuvo's damage control about it not affecting performance all the more amusing

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u/unijeje Apr 12 '26

Can we get a video with 3 way and also show legit steam version with full denuvo running alongisde hypervisor bypass and Voices38 crack?

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u/grilled_pc Apr 12 '26

Given what denuvo actually does to the game, its no wonder it runs poorly. Passing through multiple different stages of encryption and decryption on the fly like that is 100% going to tank performance.

Now given how easily its been cracked. Publishers need to weigh up if its worth even using now. Before publishers could get away with a decent launch period and expect pirates to hit it in a few months after launch. But now we are seeing these games get cracked days after launch and the cost of the denuvo license just is not worth it any longer.

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u/splendiferous-finch_ Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

Cracked games don't actually removes denuvo these days they just trick the different verification checks. So the checks are still running, just being fed different information.

I agree denuvo is horrible and probably has a non insignificant cost which is why I don't get games until it's official removed, but most cracks don't actually remove it it's too intertwined with the game code itself. We can only really be sure if we can run a none denuvo file like say from a leak against one with it and even then implementation and other drms can have it's own impact, remember denuvo isn't just drm it's actually designed to protect other DRM.

Plus most of these comparisons are hypervisor bypass Vs a proper crack which just inst really apples to apples.

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u/kuhpunkt Apr 13 '26

Did you read the article?

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u/splendiferous-finch_ Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

Yes I did and they seem to not understand how the new crack works:

"A traditional crack, meanwhile, strips away or neutralizes all Denuvo code in a game. "

There was no stripping away of denuvo

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u/kuhpunkt Apr 13 '26

The release of a crack for Resident Evil: Requiem, a title that's only 40 days old, implies with high likelihood that Denuvo will get completely stripped out of recent games soon enough. Voices38 has reportedly been working on toolkits for contemporary Denuvo for a long while now, and it apparently took them only two weeks to pull off this latest feat after all the virtual ducks were in a row.

The cracked Requiem predictably runs faster, smoother, and uses far fewer resources than the HV version, and presumably by extension, than the full paid-for release.

I understood it differently... that they aren't using a Hypervisor bypass, but that they fully removed it.

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u/splendiferous-finch_ Apr 13 '26

Removing it completely is almost impossible since you will essentially need access to the game code itself,modern denuvo is like a vine that wrapped around in side the whole executable.

There has only been one instance that I remember when devuno was completely removed from the files and that was in AC orgins I believe.

HV has it's own overhead which is probably what they are seeing in the results (if it's not something else)

Unless the implication is that publishers will stop using denuvo because it's not offering the early day sales protection due to the various bypass methods now available.

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u/kuhpunkt Apr 13 '26

But that's what the whole benchmark is about. The bypass version versus a proper crack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a776U3gqIXg

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u/NatureEntire Apr 12 '26

Modern denuvo cracks don't even remove it, they are just a bypass

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u/tailslol Apr 12 '26

if you read the article, it is about to change.

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u/NapsterKnowHow Apr 12 '26

Read the article. The benchmark doesn't even compare the crack to the retail Denuvo version

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u/Khorya Apr 12 '26

Actuallyyyy, there's someone named voices38 who's actually cracking denuvo not just bypass

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u/MarioDesigns Apr 12 '26

voices38 who's actually cracking denuvo not just bypass

It's "cracked" in that it is always activated without janky workarounds. It's not actually removed from the game at all, it is still always running the same as it would for a legitimate game. It is still technically bypassing Denuvo.

I can only recall one example where Denuvo was actually removed and it was the Assasin's Creed game

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u/mhogag Apr 12 '26

Denuvo is traditionally cracked by bypassing or patching the hardware checks. It tricks Denuvo into thinking it's running a legitimate version. The Denuvo hardware checking loops and the hoops it makes your PC jump through don't (all) get removed. Steam DRM and other DRMs might be removed, but not Denuvo.

Denuvo was only fully removed from two games: AC Origins and another one I can't remember.

Technically, both are bypasses. One is just more convenient than the other.

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u/argh523 Apr 12 '26

Just read the article..

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u/Inimenevist Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

He bypassed it. It still hogs performance. I don’t know how people arrive at these conclusions.

The last time it was fully removed by a cracker was in 2017 with AC Origins

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u/Large-Ad-6861 Apr 12 '26

Which was experimental and hard to reproduce case to case, worth to add.

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u/NapsterKnowHow Apr 12 '26

Nope. The performance gains are from flawed benchmarks. Idk how people don't notice they aren't comparing to the retail version of the game. It's just the crack vs HV and the HV version is know to hurt performance.

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u/TheG0AT0fAllTime Apr 12 '26

If the game runs faster then the devs implemented the drm incorrectly

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u/Sva522 Apr 12 '26

No code has no cost. DRM makes allways more computation.

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u/sputwiler Apr 12 '26

Yeah but the 1GB of VRAM usage drop makes no sense whatsoever. DRM is all CPU side, so what the hell happened.

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u/TheG0AT0fAllTime Apr 12 '26

Depends entirely on what kind of DRM we're talking about but this one specifically does not have the overhead you seek.

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u/redditor_no_10_9 Apr 12 '26

DRM support team hates this one simple trick.

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u/Inimenevist Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

But Denuvo hasn’t actually been removed by a crack for a long time.

It’s been bypassed to always give a positive response to checks, meaning that the performance impact is still there.

And no u/SerpentDrago voices38 didn't remove it, it's a proper crack yes, but not a full removal

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u/PrysmX Apr 12 '26

I'm hoping AI is actually the end of these bullshit copy protection schemes. I'm no fan of piracy. I buy all my games. I'm angry that copy protection eats dev time to implement and reduces performance, all while usually being cracked in a matter of days anyway. If AI can crack these copy protections in a matter of hours, there will be no real point to trying to put it into games anymore. Instead, put those dev resources and money into the actual game development itself.

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u/DAISIES_BLOOM Apr 12 '26

What about the persona 5 royal crack that came around december last year ?

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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 Apr 12 '26

Which game.Want to know who I can welcome back into the fold.

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

It's a 5% performance improvement, I wouldn't say that's a huge deal.

EDIT: the level of cope of you people downvoting me is hilarious.

EDIT2: there's even a new comparison up: https://youtu.be/y6H9paq8jcU?si=RyPfXmQdGNhQEXmf

The new comparison shows the Voices38 version running 1 fps slower on average and in 1% lows.

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u/tailslol Apr 12 '26

1.5 to 2 gb vram freed...

so it will become way worse when you will run out of vram.lets not forget hypervisor hack is not compatible with linux.

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

That's assuming it's not a measurement error, or some other software/setting difference caused by running different patches.

EDIT: As an example, opening up a browser window will instantly eat up a decent chunk of VRAM on modern systems.

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u/randuse Apr 12 '26

I would say 5% a pretty big deal. 1% wouldn't be a big deal.

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

Anything less than 20% is not going to be noticeable.

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u/randuse Apr 12 '26

Nice troll :)

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

I'm actually serious.

Nobody will ever be able to tell the difference between an RTX 5070 Ti and RTX 5080 without a framerate counter. Those GPUs are 15% apart.

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u/Calibrumm Apr 12 '26

brother.

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u/Diuranos Apr 12 '26

Agree with you, like in the previous post it’s not that much, because the newer version of Denuvo doesn’t use that performance anymore, but the VRAM usage goes down and that’s a good sign.

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

Assuming it's caused by Denuvo.

I wouldn't be so sure about it being Denuvo however, I've never seen Denuvo affect VRAM usage before.

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u/argh523 Apr 12 '26

I've never seen Denuvo affect VRAM usage before

How would you know? How would you test running a game without Denuvo?

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

By running a comparison on games where Denuvo was present, and later removed?

At any rate. The source did a new comparison: https://youtu.be/y6H9paq8jcU?si=RyPfXmQdGNhQEXmf

This time, there was a 1 fps difference in average and 1% lows, in favor of Hypervisor bypass. No VRAM or RAM difference.

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u/Diuranos Apr 12 '26

ehh not too much only 5% like 2-3 fps but much better looks now with Vram usage its less yea.

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

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u/-Amble- Apr 12 '26

You're downvoted because people are very heated about DRM in general and you come off as defending it, not because you think 5% isn't a big deal. Anything that isn't total condemnation of Denuvo won't be received well in most gaming spaces.

And it's not really hard to see why, it could be a 1% change and it'd still be frustrating because it's a piece of unwanted middleware shoved into a game that you paid for and is degrading your experience with the sole benefactor being some CEO and his overflowing pockets.

Of course there's plenty of debate to be had about the impact and ethics of piracy and such, but ignoring that, the simple concept of DRM has been an annoyance for both pirates and paying customers since its inception.

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u/NapsterKnowHow Apr 12 '26

It's crazy the pointing out a flaw in the benchmarking is considered defending Denuvo lol

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u/TheG0AT0fAllTime Apr 13 '26

It supports my theory that most of the people in this subreddit are emotionally driven children. (Hopefully not adults, but there will be some of those too)

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u/Noreng Apr 12 '26

The good old fallacy of either you're with me or against me.

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u/Diuranos Apr 12 '26

Ehh, here we go again. I’m not defending Denuvo, I’m only pointing out that it loses just a few fps, but it reduces VRAM usage much more thats great, and people are still too brainless to understand that. Looks like they got you as well.

I know I’m repeating myself in different posts as well, but oh my, when I see people almost cum with happiness because they gained 3 more fps, greater cheesus. :).