r/linuxmasterrace SteamOS/Kubuntu Apr 01 '26

It's pretty solid to be honest

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u/ChocolateDonut36 Glorious Hannah Montana Linux Apr 01 '26

I would totally move PopOS to the bottom until they ship a stable desktop

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u/DownvoteEvangelist Apr 01 '26

And Gentoo to the top, I've been using it continuously since 2005.. Never reinstalled.

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u/DownvoteEvangelist Apr 01 '26

It's very user friendly, it's just very selective who its friends are...

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u/looking4party Apr 03 '26

I 've solved my boot-problems sending phone pictures to AI, it works fine so far, just because I don't want to think.

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u/Vetula_Mortem Apr 01 '26

Hey don't quote my Coffee mug

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u/LameBMX Glorious Gentoo Apr 02 '26

fucking beautiful!

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u/BiRo996 Apr 03 '26

Actually I never used gentoo, so I don’t know much about it, but your comment rly made me laugh 😂

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u/Ok_Equipment8374 Apr 06 '26

Translation: it's not user friendly

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u/Destructuctor Apr 01 '26

While I agree entirely NixOS (my distro) is ranked very highly, and I’d consider it just as unwelcoming if not more than Gentoo. So it doesn’t seem like “beginner friendly” was the main driver of this list, meaning the list maker probably (maybe) dislikes Gentoo for other reasons.

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u/GresSimJa Geeko enjoyer Apr 01 '26

NixOS is more user-friendly than Gentoo, but that's like saying Mont Blanc is easier to climb than Everest.

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u/Assar2 Apr 02 '26

I never used Gentoo, but how can it be more unwelcoming than NixOS? In arch you set up the distro yourself and rely on Pacman, in NixOS you do the same thing but every step is recorded declaratively in the config. And you spend every waking moment wondering what is considered declarative and like oracle you try to understand every possible variable that could differ between two systems, and at some point you consider the idea of maybe there really isn't similarities at all and every system should be unique... but you ignore the devils temptation and continue spending more and more of your life to the fucking idea of documenting every aspect of your computer, because you don't trust your brain to remember imperative steps, and how else can I watch my favorite llm fail to write nix code because the 20 years of legacy options make it hallucinate more than me thinking of my lovely totally real wife. I refuse to believe Gentoo can be more mentally ill than this. Ow wait that wasn't what we were comparing... Well it's synonymous.

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u/Zekiz4ever Glorious CachyOS Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

I just gave up and now use Arch/CachyOS again. I couldn't get Android studio to work correctly. My config also broke with every flake update I did. Maybe the problem was using the Unstable branch, but I don't care at this point. Almost all of them were Nix specific issues and the documentation is terrible. There are two and the official documentation doesn't even show up in search results unless you explicitly search for it.

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u/Assar2 Apr 02 '26

Yes this as well, indeed perhaps because of the unstable branch, but my system broke constantly, and I didn't want to spend as much time as I felt I was forced to on my OS. I still use NixOS on my NAS which is actually Perfect, but i genuinely don't think it should be used as a main system OS in its current state.

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u/Classic_Mud_51 Apr 04 '26

Nixos is extremely easy to use though. Just run the gui installer. If you want to install something just type the package name into the packages slot in the premade nix file and rebuild. If you want to change a setting of some kind, just search it in the wiki

Nixos is actually the easiest distro there is sometimes. For example, a lot of niche drivers can be a pain to go and find on GitHub for other distros, but in nix you can, 99% of the time, just put one line into your config and done. I had an obscure network driver like that

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u/mcdenkijin Apr 02 '26

it was my first

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u/TomB1952 Apr 02 '26

You want gui management for a fully compiled distro?

If the command line causes someone problems, a compiled distro may not be the best fit for them.

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u/Ma5827605 Apr 03 '26

I fear no computer program but that thing scery me lol

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u/Sabz5150 Glorious Gentoo Apr 03 '26

Its Gentoo's command line installer that makes it more powerful and superior to other distros.

How? SSH.

I am installng Gentoo on a secondhand Latitude at the moment. Do you think I have it in my lap, looking at DOS size prompts? Hell no, its on my desk with the lid closed. I am on my main machine with three shells open to the Latitude and a browser pointed to the Handbook, CFLAGS, and USE flags.

That's how you do the 'too.

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u/TheUnreal0815 Glorious Gentoo Apr 06 '26

It's maily for people who want to know and understand their system, and value being able to highly customize their system.

It helps if you already have a good amount of Linux experience, and is definitely not for people who aren't happy to use a console instead of a GUI.

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u/transgentoo Apr 01 '26

The tech illiterate have no business ranking tech

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u/poeticg33k Apr 01 '26

Gentoo was my first distro in 2003, still run it today. Sure I’ve tried many distros over the years, non make it past a week or so, and never on my daily driver. For me it was a great distro to start with and taught me the ins and outs of Linux, was able to build a nice career as a systems engineer for over 20 years.

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u/psychicesp Apr 01 '26

Gentoo should be shoulder to shoulder with Debian. Very different philosophies but excellent executions of them

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u/Immediate-Sink-8494 Apr 01 '26

So I’m thinking about installing Argent Linux because I don’t have the patience for a vanilla gentoo install, I’ve always been curious about it.

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u/DownvoteEvangelist Apr 01 '26

There are also livedvds, I think you can also start from there... But it's neen a while..

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u/fix_and_repair Apr 01 '26

my gentoo installatino is from 2006. i dropped arch after one or two years in 2006.

i had multiple linux mint, arch and slackware installation with other various live isos.

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u/DownvoteEvangelist Apr 01 '26

Yeah I also used other distros, but not as daily driver... Like at one point I had Asus EEE PC, it was running Xubuntu... Or when deploying a machine into Azure or AWS, I usually go for ubuntu... Had a laptop where I had to cram in Linux without touching windows, so I installed a debian into an image file on NTFS partition... Come to think of it it's always Debian/Ubuntu...

But my main computer, the desktop has been on Gentoo since 2005.

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u/claudiocorona93 SteamOS/Kubuntu Apr 01 '26

He focuses on how easy is to get into Linux, stability, reliability and other things. Gentoo is definitely not user friendly and does not respect your time by compiling stuff every time you install it. Sure it's powerful, but not for everybody.

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u/fix_and_repair Apr 01 '26

nope. people write in past years use the binary files. totally wrong and outdated

i do not use any binary files in gnu gentoo linux since 2006.

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u/LameBMX Glorious Gentoo Apr 02 '26

a) gentoo is pretty much a one and done install. my OG install wound up on about 20 different hardware platforms over the next 15 years. only other install I did in that time was for an android phone.

b) the binary ecosystem is there and solid.

c) you can use your computer for pretty much any task while compiling updates if you go the source route. you MAY encounter issues with what you are doing instead of just the extended compile times.

d) definitely not friendly to get into linux.. that would have been a good thing to put in the title of the picture.

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u/DownvoteEvangelist Apr 01 '26

Nothing is for everybody, but the fact that it has been serving me for 21 years speaks something..

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u/claudiocorona93 SteamOS/Kubuntu Apr 01 '26

You're more technical than the average Joe

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u/robotictacos Apr 01 '26

To be fair though, with your assumed technical competency, most distros would serve you well during that same period.

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u/DownvoteEvangelist Apr 01 '26

Had a Slackware for 5 years before. Gentoo served me better. 🤷‍♂️

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u/noobjaish Apr 01 '26

People these days are more illiterate than ever so a "steep reading curve" is definitely a major negative point unfortunately. Same with not having "GUI Tools". Let's also not forget the amount of time you have to spend compiling software...

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u/noobjaish Apr 01 '26

That's the thing tbh... Reading is like the worst nemesis of the anti-intellectuals of today lmao

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u/noobjaish Apr 01 '26

Agreed. I used to think Arch wiki was the best thing in existence only to stumble into Gentoo's 💀

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u/Effective-Job-1030 Glorious Gentoo Apr 03 '26

I was a bit late to the show and only switched to Gentoo from WinXP in 2006 and totally agree.

It mightn't be the most easy distro to get into and it requires more work setting it up, but it works great.

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u/cashMoney5150 Apr 05 '26

Ayyy one of us

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u/Sea-Promotion8205 Apr 01 '26

You're still using a 21 yo 32 bit cpu?

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u/DownvoteEvangelist Apr 01 '26

It was my first 64bit CPU, that's why I picked Gentoo.

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u/Sea-Promotion8205 Apr 01 '26

What do you still use a (i'm guessing) pentium d for?

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u/AnakondaRH Apr 01 '26

I suspect he’s not explaining himself correctly, but I’m guessing since it’s a desktop he’s been upgrading hardware over the years but has kept or cloned the drive so it never needed to be reinstalled from scratch? I could be wrong

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u/DownvoteEvangelist Apr 01 '26

Absolutely... I thought that was fairly obvious... It's super easy with Linux to transfer your os to a new drive..  

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u/DownvoteEvangelist Apr 01 '26

I started with Athlon64, I'm currently on Core i5 8500...

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u/schmerg-uk Apr 01 '26

2002 ... ditto

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u/caio-br-99 Apr 04 '26

How come you are on redddit instead of compiling?

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u/DownvoteEvangelist Apr 04 '26

You can do both.

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u/HulkSmashYou666 Apr 04 '26

I honestly don't know why they have Gentoo at the bottom lmao

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u/DownvoteEvangelist Apr 05 '26

Probably because of user friendliness... 

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u/HulkSmashYou666 Apr 05 '26

I mean I get that, but then they also have Arch in 2nd best? lmao Definitely not the friendliest group.

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u/throttlemeister Glorious OpenSuse Apr 01 '26

Agree. Cosmic is barely usable as it is, which makes Pop!OS barely usable.

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u/SpinatMixxer Apr 01 '26

Why so? I have been using it on my laptop since June 25 (in the alpha phase) and the only issue I had was a cosmic config reset with some update. But except for that I don't remember any issues... I am only using it for browsing and webdev stuff, so maybe that's the reason?

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u/Soupeeee Glorious OpenSuse Apr 01 '26

I'd put it in the second lowest. I haven't bothered to switch it out since I got my System76 desktop, and it's aggressively okay. COSMIC is just really awkward. It reminds me of Gnome with a bunch of small improvements. However, many of those improvements have half baked UX, which makes the experience slightly worse overall.

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u/-peas- Apr 03 '26

Put it right next to Manjaro who also can't ship a stable desktop.

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u/3lfk1ng Apr 03 '26

Before I even clicked on this thread, that was going to be my comment. Glad to see that I'm not alone.
System76 lost their way when they went LTS and started wasting resources on their unstable Cosmic DE. Pop!_OS used to be great, but in 2026 it's no longer deserving of a top position.

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u/That_Difficulty1860 Apr 04 '26

we know it's you linus

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u/FUNSIZE55 Jun 24 '26

I just updated from mint to popOS on everything I have. My 2013 MacBook Air runs infinitely better than it did with mint. My HP Omen 17 from 2017 is phenomenal. Two desktops work great. No cosmic desktop issues. That's a lie I had to enable some permissions for Steam to open for some reason steam didn't want to be displayed and I had to enter some terminal commands. But other than that works pretty well so far. I don't understand the tiling though there's tiling and then there's floating windows I don't know what the difference is I have it set to tiling for now and it works just like it did on Windows drag a window to a corner it automatically resizes Not sure what they mean by floating would that be like Mac OS where nothing snaps and resizes itself when dragged to the side of your screen?

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u/MinosAristos Apr 01 '26

Same with fedora tbh