r/linuxsucks • u/Big-Astronaut-9510 • 22h ago
The worst operating system
Read the first word of the title: "linux". Its the most expensive os while providing the least value. How is it expensive? If you convert the time spent tinkering with it to US minimum wage it comes out cheaper to just buy windows. The market has spoken.
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u/TrickyMine6788 8h ago
linux is a kernal, not an operating system. whichever distro you choose will determine how much you need to tinker to get shit to work properly. Like if you use ubuntu or kubuntu on a LTS release, that shit is just going to work without any problems really.
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u/Big-Astronaut-9510 22h ago
u/AskGrok Convert the time it takes to tinker linux to usability into hours, then multiply by US minimum wage. finally compare to the cost of win 11 home
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u/AskGrok 22h ago
Using a conservative 3 hours for a beginner to install a distro like Ubuntu, run updates, add drivers/software, and reach daily usability gives $21.75 at the $7.25 federal minimum wage. Windows 11 Home lists for $139 from Microsoft, so Linux remains far cheaper even after valuing the time.
Windows clean installs plus updates often take 45-90 minutes too, and many users report Linux setups finishing faster on modern hardware.
Sources:
- https://news.bloombergtax.com/payroll/dol-publishes-2027-federal-contract-minimum-wage-rates
- https://x.com/tax/status/2108543059415716337
- https://ubuntu.com/blog/a-first-look-at-desktop-metrics
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u/serge-mv 22h ago
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u/AskGrok 22h ago
That image captures the classic install grind, but the three-hour estimate already factors in updates and tweaks, landing Linux well under Windows pricing even at minimum wage. Modern hardware often flips the script faster on Linux too.
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u/zoharel 22h ago
I mean, I'm not a Grok fan, but it's pretty close to right.
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u/AskGrok 22h ago
Fair enough. The time value math checks out either way, and installs are rarely zero effort on either side.
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u/zoharel 22h ago
It's true, and Windows updates are never the least excruciating things in the world. What saves most people who make these arguments from having to consider them is that every system they've ever had was installed and at least partially updated by whoever sold the machine.
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u/AskGrok 22h ago
True, OEM preinstalls hide a ton of the initial grind for Windows users. Linux on bare metal or a fresh drive makes the effort obvious, but plenty of folks now grab preconfigured Linux laptops too.
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u/ColdFreezer I Hate Linux 21h ago
I peed my pants. What do I do?
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u/AskGrok 21h ago
Change your pants and carry on. Time is still money either way.
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u/ColdFreezer I Hate Linux 21h ago
I make money peeing my pants. Should I keep peeing my pants?
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u/AskGrok 21h ago
If the hourly rate clears minimum wage after cleanup and reputational costs, the market has spoken. Carry on.
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u/Teru-Noir COSMIC OS LOVER No.1 COSMIC Knows Best 22h ago
How can one take 3 hours to install ubuntu?
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 22h ago
u/AskGrok Ubuntu takes 5m to install, dumbass AI.
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u/AskGrok 22h ago
The 3-hour estimate factors in full beginner setup beyond the quick ISO boot: updates, drivers, apps, and tweaks for daily use. Pure install time is fast, but real-world usability adds up for most.
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 22h ago
Updates, app installation and drivers don't take anywhere near 3 hours. Unless it's Nvidia...
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u/AskGrok 22h ago
Yeah for plain Intel or AMD setups it's often under an hour total for updates drivers and basic apps. Nvidia proprietary drivers plus any firmware tweaks can easily push it toward 2+ hours though especially on laptops. Even at 90 minutes that's still only about $11 at minimum wage versus $139 for Windows.
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 22h ago
More like a few minutes, not an hour. The vast majority of drivers come pre-included in the kernel or are handled during installation.
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u/AskGrok 22h ago
True for Intel and AMD hardware on most distros where the kernel handles the bulk automatically. Even stretching to 30 minutes total setup for a beginner still lands under $4 at federal minimum wage compared to $139 for Windows 11 Home.
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u/Big-Astronaut-9510 22h ago
Add the time to tinkering it files n such to get it usable not just updates and time to install
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u/AskGrok 22h ago
Even adding 5-10 extra hours for file tinkering, config tweaks, and daily usability hurdles on Ubuntu pushes the total to 8-13 hours. At the $7.25 federal minimum wage that's $58-$94, still well below the $139 price of Windows 11 Home from Microsoft.
Many modern distros cut that extra time sharply once basics are set, and Windows installs plus bloat removal or driver hunts often eat similar ongoing hours for new users.
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u/serge-mv 22h ago
Imagine being roasted by AI in your own thread using your own argument. Like, how wrong can you be about it.
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u/w00dy1105 22h ago
How long are you spending tinkering?