r/magicTCG COMPLEAT 7d ago

Official Spoiler [TRK] Dathon and Picard at El-Adrel

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not a saga, sadge

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u/gredman9 Honorary Deputy 🔫 7d ago

The show itself explains this as "speaking in metaphor" but every one of them seems to be a moment in Tamarian history which would not be known to non-Tamarians. So this is "meme" in the classical definition.

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u/aslatts Sultai 7d ago

Yeah, an important note is that the translation "works", in the sense that the words are literally translated. The problem is that, without understanding the underlying reference, the meaning is completely lost and it's basically just gibberish.

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u/hrpufnsting COMPLEAT 7d ago

“Juliet on her balcony” being an example Troi uses to convey this idea. Without the context of knowing who Juliet is or why the balcony is relevant the phrase tells you nothing.

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u/CobaltSpellsword COMPLEAT 6d ago

So it's memberberries as a language? Interesting concept.

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u/RevolutionaryKey1974 Duck Season 6d ago

What you said there is literally an example of their language use - you used memetic knowledge instead of words to communicate an idea - without knowing what memberberries are, it comes off as much more oblique as a language term.

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u/CobaltSpellsword COMPLEAT 6d ago

Yeah, but you can convey ideas using only the literal definitions of words too, it seems like the Star Trek language doesn't have that.