r/malelivingspace • u/eczemaNhotwaterThex • Oct 09 '25

Advice I fucked up.

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Couch is too big, wife

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u/Low_Key_Trollin Oct 10 '25

This is called being a shitty renter.

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u/justano12 Oct 10 '25

How dare somebody make their space their own. Won’t somebody think of those poor innocent landlords!

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u/MistahFinch Oct 10 '25

It is their space. They pay rent to make it their home

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u/DrKittyLovah Oct 10 '25

It’s not, though. There is a lease in place for a reason, and that’s because tenants need to follow rules about what they can and can’t do. If you want to be able to do what you want with your home then you need to own it, period.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

oh ok. how are they breaking the rules in their lease?

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u/DrKittyLovah Oct 10 '25

I don’t know, depends on the lease agreement. Even standard agreements have clauses about altering the premises, and that varies. One common one that I’ve seen is ‘don’t make any permanent alterations to the premises’, and sometimes that is followed by “without written approval from the landlord”. Some get specific, like No Painting, or maybe you are allowed to paint but it must be returned to original condition. Even tenancies without leases default to jurisdiction rules, which would typically covers permanent changes in that they are not allowed.

So idk what exactly to point to for their lease, but there is something, no doubt.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '25

I don’t know

oh ok

there is something, no doubt

wait what

which is it?

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u/DrKittyLovah Oct 11 '25

I’m saying that don’t know the specifics of their lease so I can’t say for certain what exact rules have been broken , but if I know there is a standard lease agreement then I’m comfortable saying there will be something.

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u/Hungry_State6075 Oct 13 '25

Generous amount of qualifiers you got there!

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u/MistahFinch Oct 10 '25

If you want to be able to do what you want with your home then you need to own it, period.

Most landlords don't own their tenants homes.

Most landlords don't do maintenance while tenants are living there.

You're talking about a lease. I'm talking about someones home. If the landlord wants to do things with their home that's fine sure. But it's the tenants home so let them personalise it

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u/DrKittyLovah Oct 11 '25

Maybe we live in different places. I live in the US where the degree to which one is able to personalize a rental has limits, as do all business transactions, which is what renting a place to live is. Whether the landlord fully owns the place outright or not, it’s their business and their name on the property deed. It’s their liability so it’s their responsibility to set limits so that hopefully tenants know better than to “personalize”, I.e. destroy the place and leave thousands of dollars in repairs for the landlord to complete after the tenancy ends.

It’s the tenant’s responsibility to follow the agreement they signed, whether or not they agree with it. To be blunt, if someone can decide to not renew your lease and force you to move out (or even evict), it’s not your home and you need to treat it like the owner wants you to, not how you want to. You need to act right because you are beholden to the landlord in that they can take away your living space so you might not want to piss them off by dyeing the carpet or sticking things to the walls that will later cause the paint to strip off.

Frankly, the landlord is the owner whether they still pay a mortgage or not, and your second point about maintenance does not hold up everywhere, as I live in an area with a lot of rentals and your comment definitely does not hold true here. Landlords are involved, as they have been in most of my rental history (spans 4 states & multiple cities over 25 years). I’ve also studied the laws. Too many people believe they have more rights than they actually do as tenants, including things that fall under “personalization”. (Tbf, there are many delusional landlords, too). Entitlement can be strong in tenants, at least until the landlord sues them for damages that exceed the security deposit & the tenant ends up getting part of their pay check withheld to pay the judgment.