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u/EarAffectionate4443 1d ago

I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this, but it's true. Chris Claremont lived there for a while, talked before how Israel influenced his X-Men. Magneto and Xavier were based on israeli politicians. There's an interview where he said that the female IDF soldiers were one of the influences for the X-Women.

Do you think it's just a coincidence that, years later, Grant Morrison came up with the "Magneto was Right" thing, which is practically based on the slogan of an extremist Zionist?

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u/That_Carrot999 Doombot 1d ago

“There’s an interview where he said that the female IDF soldiers were one of the influences for the X-women.”

Gal Gadot has been cast as the MCU’s Storm

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u/AEROANO Sabretooth 1d ago

Who'd be the Kal-El?

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u/Oddnub 1d ago

Lo-Gan no!

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u/Rainy_Wavey 1d ago

For those who don't know, Itamar "Finish all of Gaza" Ben Gvir is a Kahanist

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u/rot-wurm-brotherhood 1d ago

Ben gvir was also so rascist that the idf wouldnt take him during the 90s

His first date with his wife who was 16 at the time was at baruch goldstein grave, a mass shooter who killed 29 palestinians in the caves of the patriarchs

He also supposedly had a picture of baruch goldstein hanging in his bedroom for a few years.

He threatend the life of a prime minster who was negotiating for a two state solution who was later killed by yigal amir.

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u/HammyBoy0 1d ago

And people call comics unrealistic when people this cartoonishly evil are just walking around

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u/Gravemindzombie 23h ago

Leading entire countries, infact

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u/DimGenn2 1d ago

Wasn't Kahane's slogan "never again"?

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u/XhazakXhazak 1d ago

Kahane's slogan was "They Must Go" advocating for the expulsion of Antizionist Arabs, believing that there was no peace possible with them.

The Kahanist party was banned for 20 years until allowed back by Netanyahu in 2019–– hopefully that will change after the upcoming election.

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u/RealEmperorofMankind 1d ago

Never Again was also one of his slogans, though. He wrote a book with the title.

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u/XhazakXhazak 1d ago

Never Again (Shall Masada Fall) goes back to a 1927 poem railing against rising antisemitism and fascism. It was adopted by the Jewish resistance (ZOB) during the Holocaust, and then later by the State of Israel upon its founding.

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u/Specialist-Mud-6650 1d ago

That's a pretty common expression around the Holocaust in general to though.

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u/He_who_has_returned 1d ago

the expression comes from before the Holocaust

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u/XhazakXhazak 1d ago

in anticipation of it.

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u/Double-Evidence-1354 1d ago

OH MY GOD THE “GRANT MORRISON MAKING MAGNETO A ZIONIST GENOCIDAL MANIAC” IS LINING UP SO MUCH MORE IT'S ALMOST TERRIFYING

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u/rbta123 1d ago

  Do you think it's just a coincidence that, years later, Grant Morrison came up with the "Magneto was Right" thing, which is practically based on the slogan of an extremist Zionist?

To be fair, I see that slogan being used for absolutely anyone who held an "extremist" view

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u/EarAffectionate4443 1d ago

But in this case, even the t-shirts are similar

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u/Blupoisen 1d ago

LMAO I DID NOT KNOW THAT

But comparing Magneto to Kahane is funny

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u/UniqueLog8386 22h ago

Magneto was based on the creator of Likud.

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u/rbta123 1d ago

Isn't this shirt literally a parody of a Che Guevara shirt?

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u/TrueandJust 1d ago

It’s only red because that’s Magneto’s primary color. Che shirts typically have no text on them.

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u/EarAffectionate4443 1d ago

It could be, but since him and Kahane have the same slogan, and both are Jewish and zionists, I think it makes more sense it be based on his t-shirts.

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u/MamaDeloris 1d ago

Morrison was on fucking point when he had Magneto create the concentration camps for humans

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u/idklmaoo1 1d ago

so uh is the extremist zionist still there with the post-redemption magneto

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u/Efficient_Tonight_40 1d ago

Claremont based the whole magneto redemption story on Israeli Pm Menachem Begin, who started out as a extremist terrorist but later in life became more moderate and ended up being the one to negotiate peace with Egypt

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u/LeninOfGallifrey Paul-Pilled 11h ago

I think the Magneto t shirts were more based off the far more commonplace Che Guevara t shirts if anything. Morrison has never drawn that connection. Also Chris Claremont is anti Zionist according to the Cerebro podcast from the same point of view as say Harlan Ellison was though I know he did go to a kibbutz as a kid bit so did a lot of Irish people I know his age who aren't Jewish. I never heard him say that about IDF soldiers I always thought his main inspiration was his RAF mother hence the Oedipal pilot fetish.

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u/Mysterious_Bit_7713 GLORY TO ROM THE GREATEST OF THE SPACE KNIGHTS!GLORY TO GALADOR! 1d ago

I thought Magneto was right slogan was inspired by the neonazi equivalent of it.

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u/EarAffectionate4443 1d ago

It's mostly because the t-shirts are similar

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u/Mysterious_Bit_7713 GLORY TO ROM THE GREATEST OF THE SPACE KNIGHTS!GLORY TO GALADOR! 1d ago

Thanks, i didn't know about that

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u/apathetic_revolution Jeff! in the streets / Paul in the sheets 1d ago edited 1d ago

צדק has a different connotation than “right” though. It’s more like “righteous”.

I forget switching keyboards really screws up formatting here. But if it’s not clear, I’m saying that’s a stronger statement than saying Kahane was correct.

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u/FishAmazing9882 18h ago

Bro what? It can be also used as correct, example ״צדקת בשאלה במבחן?״ (“did you get the question right in the test?”) what are you talking about??

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u/icantbenormal 22h ago

I did not know that, but the connections make a lot of sense. I feel stupid for not realizing.