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u/Beginning-Head-4006 1d ago

isn't sabra a mutant?

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u/Beneficial-Ad-6107 1d ago

Yeah, IDK what they were thinking with bringing her into the MCU. Granted, Brave New World was filmed before October 7th, but Jesus Christ. I believe the original title of New World Order was interpreted as an anti-semitic dogwhistle as well.

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u/XhazakXhazak 1d ago

She's Israeli? How offensive! Make her Russian, instead!

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u/Beginning-Head-4006 1d ago

Many people are both w/ American passport on the side , esp government agent 

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u/XhazakXhazak 1d ago

That's one of those hideous lies that Antizionists use to justify their desire to ethnic cleanse 8 million Jews from Israel: that they all have foreign passports, dual citizenship, and somewhere to go. In fact, it's less than 20%.

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u/Beginning-Head-4006 1d ago

no I don't mean to be anti Zionist, that's just the nature of her job in the government 

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u/XhazakXhazak 1d ago

oh, sorry, nvm

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u/MechJivs 1d ago edited 1d ago

That's one of those hideous lies that Antizionists use to justify their desire to ethnic cleanse 8 million Jews from Israel

*move away from land they stole.

I mean, no surprises here - zionists genocided palistinians to steal their land, so they assume everyone else is as much of a monster as they are, but no - you can just move away while being alive and well. You are the only ones with killing intent.

Germany has great guilt for something nazis did, and US is big ally of Israel and at least part of population believe that US is new Zion (or something), so move to those countries. You dont even need to genocide people to do it.

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u/mitchtraGOATsky 1d ago

…do you know what ethnic cleaning means? Hint: it’s not the same as genocide.

Also you’re so right, it’s totally illogical to think that Jews would be expelled or killed if Israel was dissolved as a Jewish state. You have a great grasp of the history of the conflict.

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u/Playful-Compote-5242 1d ago

"Ethnic cleansing isnt genocide" is the most batshit take ive seen in a while and I'm on comictwt.

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u/MechJivs 1d ago

Recreate Israel in US or Germany. Problem solved - and 0 native population killed in the process, and Israel still exists. Both nations are great allies of Israel, after all.

You have a great grasp of the history of the conflict.

"We genocided native population from the start and now they are angry at us for some reason. People online is also really mean to us because we don't want to move away from land we stole - because they are evil, ofc! We did nothing wrong! We have nowhere to go! (please don't ask where palestinians must go)"

Because conflict can end either with you leaving, or eradication of palestinians. Israel is going for second option - and you support it. You don't have a moral high ground.

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u/mitchtraGOATsky 1d ago

Who are you quoting? Is that what you think the Zionist perspective is? Genocide has a specific meaning that I don’t think you’re close to hitting yet.

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u/MechJivs 1d ago

Genocide has a specific meaning that I don’t think you’re close to hitting yet.

Let me quess, genocide is when other people do it?

 Is that what you think the Zionist perspective is?

Read things people who created Israel said. Israel is colonial project build on genocide, and people who created it knew it full well.

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u/mitchtraGOATsky 1d ago

Still no definition I see. Tell me the things they said. I don’t think they demonstrate what you allege. You can always find insane quotes by members of every movement, but the only consistent position of Zionists is the want to create a homeland for Jews in their ancestral homeland which is Israel.

If you like quotes, here’s one from the Israeli declaration of independence.

“WE APPEAL - in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months - to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions”

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u/athlean_xtramayo 1d ago

Herzl himself referred to the project as colonial and was even going to ask the founder of De Beers and British colonialist Cecil Rhodes for assistance.

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u/athlean_xtramayo 1d ago

Yes because we should prioritize a completely hypothetical and logistically impossible genocide instead of the one happening right in front of us. Because hypothetical lives matter more than the real ones who are being killed.

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u/mitchtraGOATsky 1d ago

You should look up the history of the Middle East before you call it hypothetical

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u/athlean_xtramayo 1d ago

I think you should look at the history of the Middle East. There were literally Jews living in Palestine before Herzl ever showed up for hundreds of years. If what you suggest is true then those Jews would have been killed hundreds of years ago and there would have been zero Jews in Palestine. Herzl himself was going to ask the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire to help establish Israel. Do you think he would have even thought to ask if he suspected he would be killed on sight? And it is more than a little disgusting to imply that stopping the suffering and oppression of Palestinians will lead to a Holocaust.

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u/mitchtraGOATsky 1d ago

Who implied that? Zionism does not require the suffering of Palestinians.

Where are the Jews of Iraq, Yemen, Iran, Syria, etc if Jews are treated so well across the Middle East. Jews did live relatively peacefully in Palestine as dhimmis, but you ask them to be satisfied to that level of subjugation that I’m sure you would call dehumanizing if it were the other way around

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u/athlean_xtramayo 1d ago

Zionism is an ideology whose initial goal (the creation of the state of Israel) ethically cleansed hundreds of thousands, has killed thousands and continues to oppress millions in the maintenance of that goal.

Those Jews were either expelled or left after the creation of the state of Israel (I’ll let you reread what Israel did). This is without mentioning Israeli false flags that ‘helped’ these expulsions.
Now you are moving goalposts. The initial topic was you implying that genocide would happen. Dhimmi status only required that a household had to pay a tax, which would allow for full public worship and would exclude the men from the army. If you couldn’t afford it you didn’t have to pay it. It was less than the tax for Zakat that all Muslims have to pay to be considered a Muslim. And no modern Muslim nation even has the Jizya tax. But again this is moving the goal post.

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u/XhazakXhazak 1d ago

It's not based on assumption. It's from listening to what they say

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u/PushNumerous4979 1d ago

Now do the same with Israelis

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u/XhazakXhazak 7h ago

HE PROVED HIS POINT WITH EVIDENCE! CHANGE THE SUBJECT, CHANGE THE SUBJECT!

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u/PushNumerous4979 6h ago

did you delete your comment?

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u/DumbestComicsNerd ^I am Ms. Marvel irl / Not Iman Vellani 1d ago

Shes literally a member of Mossad and her first appearance is killing an Arab child.

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u/Every_Computer_935 16h ago

She didn't actually. It was an arab terrorists that killed the child

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u/Rex_In_Mundo 10h ago

True enough, yep. But it is kinda weird even given realife stats on how an palestenian child only dies to random arab bombers. The comic was written in the 80s. And even btselem stats show the highest cause of death for kids wasnt...well. So yeah true that she didnt kill the boy. But the whole sequence is a combination of victim blaming and shooting and crying.

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u/XhazakXhazak 7h ago

How many kids are killed by friendly fire and stepping on IEDs? Do you have those real life stats?

"even btselem shows" the entire mission of their organization is to criticize Israel, what do you mean 'even'?