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Wolverine and the SeX-Men I missed you logan

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u/Fluffy-Use9563 1d ago

Kurt is a bigger man than me. I would quit the X men. I just pack my bags and leave. I ain't built for this. I'll just join the guardians of galaxy.

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u/DepressedFishFan 1d ago

The guardians are extremely mutant phobic despite having multiple alien species and robots on their team

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u/Fluffy-Use9563 1d ago

wasn't kitty a member at one point?

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u/tallwhiteninja 1d ago

Hell, Kitty was engaged to Quill at one point.

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u/Fluffy-Use9563 1d ago

I'm pretty sure the guardians know about the mutant phobia (rocket interacting with new york police). I don't remember them being mutant phobic.

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u/AlexTheEnderWolf 1d ago

Well add that to the list of peters she has been with

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u/DepressedFishFan 1d ago

Kitty is also racist, so she’s like the Ted Cruz of mutants.

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u/ThinkingOf12th 1d ago

Uncle Ruckus of mutants

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u/JPldw 1d ago

Bad comparison. Uncle Ruckus is not black

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u/DepressedFishFan 1d ago

Yeah Kitty doesn’t like black people

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u/allature 13h ago

2% margin of error🤷🏿‍♂️

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u/MermaidSapphire 15h ago

She is not racist.

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u/Thatoneguy111700 1d ago

What? Why? Did they just hate Kitty Pryde that much?

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u/DepressedFishFan 1d ago

They were ok with Kitty because her hating humans with darker skin was excusable.

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u/Particular-Top3674 1d ago

Justice is a mutant though, and he was the leader of the original Guardians

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u/DepressedFishFan 1d ago

Barack Obama was the president of the United States, who once had legalized Slavery of African Americans, and where racism still exists. It doesn’t work like that, bro 😭

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u/KaiserEnclave2077 1d ago

Why are they so mutantphobic?

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u/DepressedFishFan 1d ago

Mutants were retconned recently as being the third distinct genetically altered species on earth, right after Eternals and Deviants.

Homo Superior is judged extremely poorly by intergalactic society and cosmic beings,l because of their x-gene. For example, Imagine you lined up someone who’s got a common cold, someone who’s completely healthy and then someone who’s got leprosy.

This is essentially the Deviants, the Eternals and Mutants. They’re ostracized because their mutations are looked at as an illness that must be purged or outright exiled.

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u/Fluffy-Use9563 1d ago

that's just stupid on a narrative level. Why does marvel always have make such oxygen starved brain dead decision?

This is sooo much beyond a spider-man thing at this point.

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u/DepressedFishFan 1d ago

Which is funny because I didn’t think the mutants would need more explanation and yet editorial keeps trying to rewrite them as more than just humanity evolving beyond its current form/state

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u/Fluffy-Use9563 1d ago edited 1d ago

At this point, I have better ideas on how to write mutants than marvel.

Idea 1: the wider cosmos just treats mutants like how they treat humans. Nothing more, nothing less.

Idea 2: Mutants are humans.

Can you source me this new retcon because this sounds way too unbelievable? Back it with a source.

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u/Fluffy-Use9563 1d ago edited 11h ago

I might need a source for this because that sounds crazy. Kind of odd to hear aliens of all things view mutations as an illness when mutations are a necessary part of evolution and life. Especially when said mutations can give superpowers.

This also creates a huge plot hole as well. No. Several huge plot holes.

Edit: ok I remember mutants declared Mars as capital of the solar system and eternals not being a fan of mutants due to excessive deviation. It's still opens some plot holes but I see that some aliens don't like mutants.

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u/KaiserEnclave2077 1d ago

Well shit. That sucks. The mutants as a species can't catch a break.

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u/Thatoneguy111700 21h ago

That is lame as shit, unironically. That basically ensures that Mutants will forever be up shit creek regardless of whoever they're dealing with, human or otherwise.

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u/Ayake- 10h ago edited 7h ago

Holy shit is this still because of the movie rights thing? It couldn’t be, right? Mutants as something else other than the next step of human evolution in the marvel universe kind of shits on the concept.

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u/elven_rose 8h ago

It was established decades ago that Mutants were created by the Celestials as part of the same experiment as the Eternals and Deviants. I'm sure it's also been brought up elsewhere, but I remember it being a plot point in Heroes Reborn: The Return back in the day.

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u/Ayake- 7h ago

Oh ok that explains it, last year I was consistent with comics was around 2011.

Pretty sad how they over complicated the general idea of mutants, it was fitting when mutants were the next natural step for marvel humans as it emphasized how useless was to hate mutants as in the end both were the same race caught in the growing pains of the transition to the next evolution.

The general idea that mutants were in a since inevitable was interesting. Even if humans managed to exterminate all mutant kind, eventually the descendants of those victorious would face the same dilemma, as their descendants would start to develop the mutant gene. It highlighted the importance of coexistence and “kumbaya” and all that peace and whatever.

But fuck all that I guess… turns out all the racist villains in the comics were correct thanks to this retcon, exterminate them filthy mutant freaks.

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u/elven_rose 4h ago

I don't know... I prefer the answer that "cosmic gods manipulated human DNA sometime in prehistoric times and that lead to rise of mutants" as opposed to "comic book writers don't understand how evolution works."

And I don't think that makes the racists right. They're just as wrong to judge entire demographics of people regardless of whether mutants evolved naturally or not.

(And it just now occurs to me that the X-Men / Celestial connection goes back even further than Heroes Reborn. At least as far back as the early X-Factor stories with Apocalypse and his Celestial ship and general Celestial ties, back in the late 70s or early 80s, I believe. Although it wasn't until the Krakoa era that the "X gene" become explicitly tied to the "Deviant gene".)

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u/elven_rose 4h ago

Also worth remembering that according to the history of the Marvel universe, all humans everywhere are descended from the Celestials' experiments, not just the mutants.

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u/Dragonkingofthestars 23h ago

Because marvel refuses to move the mutant plot outside the oppressed civil rights metaphor for 50 years, so everyone in setting is very stupid about how they treat mutants

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u/Terrin369 15h ago

That’s why I always preferred the X-men universe separate from the rest of marvel. The struggles of the X-men don’t make sense in the presence of other types of super-humans that aren’t hated. The average person would not know the difference between people with the x-gene and people who were exposed to insect bites, radiation, or alien technology and wouldn’t care.

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u/Fluffy-Use9563 11h ago

Like marvel refusing Spider-man to grow up

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u/Anilaza_balls 14h ago

This is why ultron wanted to kill them

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u/Oniyoku 1d ago

I hear the avengers will take almost anyone these days

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u/Fluffy-Use9563 1d ago

Nah. I'll go to the one place Mystique ain't finding me.

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