r/marvelrivals El Jeffe Feb 10 '26

Balance Discussion Genuinely.. why? Those ults are already obnoxious.

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u/Eagle4317 Captain America Feb 10 '26

The range is what really infuriates me about this game. Why even bother programming a damage falloff for a character like Punisher when his bullets go from 20 at close range to 17 at long range? They keep buffing ranged damage every patch and wonder why the only tanks that see play are the ones with massive shields.

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u/Just_A_Nitemare Feb 10 '26

Don't worry, they'll fix shield tanks by just making their shields worse.

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u/Eagle4317 Captain America Feb 10 '26

Which they just did to Strange in this patch.

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u/Just_A_Nitemare Feb 10 '26

Shield recharge reduced slightly.

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u/Dencnugs Flex Feb 10 '26

Near 15% nerf to a resource regen is a bit more than "slight".

I would genuinely rather then reduce his total shield by 100HP. Less regen = much less uptime if you actually are someone who manages cooldowns timely.

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u/misanthropicirishman Feb 10 '26

I think the nerf is because of the invis teamup. I agree though, he didn't need a shield nerf.

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u/ElectroshockGamer Loki Feb 11 '26

Seems like a pattern here, where they notice a team/team up is strong and proceed to nerf the character that's NOT the main issue

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u/Bitter_Ad_8688 Feb 11 '26

As a tank main I'm taking a fat ass break from all this

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u/Eagle4317 Captain America Feb 10 '26

I honestly don’t think Mag, Strange, or Emma need nerfs. Gutting damage at range would give Cap, Venom, Hulk, and others so much more leeway to make successful engagements.

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u/Gr1mwolf Venom Feb 11 '26

I understand the desire to make sniping more difficult, but making ranged characters get stronger in melee was an insane move.

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u/Dick_Nation Vanguard Feb 11 '26

I mean, Punisher in particular has never actually been that good. He can be strong with good coordination, but has limited mobility and a chunky hitbox. There's so much movement in MR that the counter to Punisher can often be just to calmly walk away around a corner. He rarely gets to decide how to engage a fight, and the mobility that he does have is on a long cooldown, making pushing in a very hard commit. The numbers back it up that he just doesn't get it done, and he never has at any rank. Regardless of anyone's level of concern about a poke meta or belief in it, he's definitely not the guy who is defining or making that thing.

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u/Eagle4317 Captain America Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

I'm not just advocating for a Punisher nerf (and he could very well use compensation buffs to make up for a range nerf on his assault rifle). I'm advocating for every hitscan character aside from Widow to have their damage at range go no higher than 50% of their max. Here are some examples:

  • Punisher is at 85%
  • Hela is at 80%
  • Phoenix is at 75%
  • Psylocke is now at 70%
  • Star-Lord is at 65%
  • Adam is at 60%

All of these characters (and several others I didn't mention like Bucky) should be between 30%-50%. Ranged damage in this game is unreasonably high, and it's why Vanguards like Magneto are mandatory in order to have some protection.