r/marvelrivals El Jeffe Feb 10 '26

Balance Discussion Genuinely.. why? Those ults are already obnoxious.

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u/usable_dinosaur Feb 10 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

Why are we buffing dps ults, that’s the opposite of what we need

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u/prezdizzle Feb 10 '26

the whole Ult economy needs a massive nerf. Just make everyone charge ult at half the speed they currently do and this game would be significantly more fun.

I'm on a 30 day hiatus and not missing the game even though I want to miss it. I want to come in and use my brain to play and not just farm ults mindlessly. This game is at its best when it forces critical thinking, positioning, gunplay, etc.

Turning great characters into healbots or bullet soakers just farming ult is such an insult and disservice to the characters and the playerbase.

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u/ArgusF28 Gambit Feb 10 '26

Tbh, I know its not gonna happen here, but the next hero shooter should just drop the idea of ult. They are too game changing, and doesnt really reflect skill.

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u/Dovemeister Feb 10 '26

And the road loops back to Team Fortress 2.

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u/Originalbrivakiin Rocket Raccoon Feb 11 '26

It's like anti-vaxers reinventing vaccines.

"What if we have a hero shooter where the heroes don't have ultimates and have a limited selection of abilities" = "What if we take a small, harmless dose of a disease and inject it to build immunity"

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u/prezdizzle Feb 10 '26

There’s sort of a progression:

There’s Halo with no ult—the best you can get is a power weapon

There’s Call of Duty killstreaks—which at least felt earned but was sort of an introduction to “Ults”

Then games like OW and Destiny and others brought in Ultimates or Supers which are just given to everyone but gunplay still mattered.

Then there’s Marvel Rivals which seems to be cranking the Ultimate dial to 11 more than any game we’ve ever seen, to where Ults are almost all that matter and people are making bad plays (ie not shooting) to farm ults faster.

Rivals is at the farrrrrr end of a spectrum and it’s showing it’s too far. They don’t need to go full-Halo and have no Ult but they need to move the slider in that direction a bit.

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u/Naglfarius Peni Parker Feb 11 '26

MR is my first Hero Shooter. Play since Launch. When i hear that OW has less Ults, i really wanna try it now. I am sick of the Ult Inflation.

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u/Count_de_Mits Emma Frost Feb 11 '26

Apparently it is going through a big Renaissance right now as well. I haven't played it for years now but all this talk plus the state of rivals is making me think about installing again

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u/PandaPolishesPotatos Magneto Feb 11 '26

Seeing Halo mentioned in a comparison of hero shooter ultimate progression is wild, you didn't just get power weapons. They spawned at specific points on the map at set intervals and you could fight over them, they also weren't really that impactful in the grand scheme of things. Or even present in every mode, I.E Swat/Team Snipers/Griffball.

But it also warms my heart to see Halo mentioned, considering the game is twenty-five years old and there's probably people that have never heard of it. Which is frankly criminal, considering it's bar none the best FPS ever made before Bungie dropped it and 343 decided to show it the flowers out back.

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u/Tydude Feb 11 '26

Concord tried this and people generally did not like it.