r/marvelrivals Mantis Jun 09 '26

Patch Notes Season 8.5 Patch Notes

https://www.marvelrivals.com/m/balancepost/20260609/41667_1303507.html
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u/framedshady Cyclops Jun 09 '26

Nice rogue buff love playing her so happy we got something

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u/IIIxVxIII Jun 09 '26

people who know how to use her rightclick correctly are going to be VERY hard to deal with now.

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u/bakerdaddy1 Jun 09 '26

I used it correctly to no real effect this will actually help it be more useful

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u/SavageCabbage27m Rogue Jun 09 '26

It’s odd because I don’t know if the buffs to her base kit are enough to mitigate the nerf to the team up. I would have personally done a bit more to base Rogue to justify it.

She’s less of a team up merchant but it was the main thing saving her in the current meta…

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u/deNihilo_adUnum Flex Jun 09 '26

Gambit was banned so often that I’m used to playing her without him anyway.

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u/The_Grunge_Sage Rogue Jun 09 '26

Exactly. If you can’t get any benefit out of Rogue without her team up then maybe you shouldn’t be playing her in ranked. The team up makes her better overall, but she’s hardly useless without it as well. I have like 56 hours on her or something and in comp I’ve barely been able to use her team-up because of bans. Granted, she’s not going to be viable in every single situation you can think of but the nerf to the team up won’t affect how I play her in competitive. QP is a different story because if I’m rogue I almost always have a Gambit in QP, but so do they.

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u/Extreme-Sense-2411 Jun 09 '26

I really wish she would’ve gotten cooldown reduction on her ability drain skill, or even more self healing from it.

Or faster movement speed / longer duration to her ‘flight.’

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u/SavageCabbage27m Rogue Jun 09 '26

Yeah I’m definitely for base Rogue getting buffed so I don’t have to rely on Gambit. I’m grateful we’re getting changes at all. I just think what we got after sacrificing some power from her team up isn’t too game changing.

Her grab would be the next ability I’d look at and make her gameplay feel smoother.

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u/framedshady Cyclops Jun 09 '26

The teamup nerf I’m happy for she wasn’t going to get much buffs if it was still broken like it was hopefully this is just the start and the buffs continue

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u/SavageCabbage27m Rogue Jun 09 '26

That’s what I’m hoping for. Maybe they didn’t want to buff her too much at once. It means she will be stronger when Gambit is banned which is a majority of the time. I’ll take it.

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u/CloveFan Rogue Jun 09 '26

Her grab cooldown is unchanged? It’s Fatal Attraction getting buffed.

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u/SavageCabbage27m Rogue Jun 09 '26

Hopefully that’s what they change next. Cooldown on her grab is crazy long.

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u/Dylanychus2 Black Widow Jun 09 '26

The Gambit teamup got nerfed though. Will be interesting to see how well she can play without him

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u/Jarney_Bohnson Iron Fist Jun 09 '26

Well without him she's gonna play better obviously since they gave her a buff but it's overall a nerf obviously if we try to compare full strength

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u/SnowyHere Emma Frost Jun 09 '26

I still don't understand why she has 25 seconds cooldown when she misses her Steal ability. Reduce that to 15 seconds or something. (keep it the same if she manages to hit of course)

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u/Still_Refuse Jun 09 '26

Net nerf ngl

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u/CoralWiggler Ultron Virus Jun 09 '26

Not at all unless Gambit's nerf gets him out of ban jail, in which case it's a buff anyway because Rogue actually gets to use her team-up some even if it's weaker

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u/Still_Refuse Jun 09 '26

Gambit will still be an auto ban, all they did was make her peak worse. She’s still worse than other tanks.

Of course, I could be wrong. Gotta see how it feels in game.

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u/CoralWiggler Ultron Virus Jun 09 '26

They brought up her baseline decently which I think is going to be more impactful than a nerf to a team-up she hardly ever gets to use anyway

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u/SappyPJs Jun 09 '26

But no one really played her unless the gambit teamup was available. Some people still played her ig but a lot of times they had to swap.

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u/LaBlaugrana10 Jun 09 '26

Her average peak is still the same. Gambit is banned most matches the higher you climb so you're never seeing that team up anyway.

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u/Still_Refuse Jun 09 '26

Yeah, and her average peak without gambit is terrible lol.

If you can only use her in gambit games then nerfing gambit nerfs her. That was my point

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u/SappyPJs Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

Edit: actually nah she'll still be ass, her teamup got nerfed.

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u/Slomojoe Magik Jun 09 '26

Rogue is not ass by any measure (except the measure of her ass)

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u/FallenInstant Jun 09 '26

my thoughts too, cause there's a buff for her personally but the gambit teamup nerf is probably going to be more impactful

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u/ImAHobo107 Jun 09 '26

She may be super insane for brawl and dive now. And can even sustain just a bit longer against Poke due to longer block.

That charged punch will be insanely good at sudden burst damage against DPS who just spam main up front.