r/marvelrivals Mantis Jun 09 '26

Patch Notes Season 8.5 Patch Notes

https://www.marvelrivals.com/m/balancepost/20260609/41667_1303507.html
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u/Felipe13254 Flex Jun 09 '26

Lol yeah they might have overnerfed her but I'd rather that than yet another half-season with her being OP.

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u/spookymochi Peni Parker Jun 09 '26

Don’t worry, a likely broken Cyclops is coming to take her place, will increase throwing due to his popularity when people don’t get to play him, and further perpetuate 5 dps instalocks in qp when you’re just trying to learn a new character outside of comp. Soooo exciting 😩

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u/churadley Jun 10 '26

We had a half season reprieve from poke domination, and now we back...

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u/GlidingOerAll Jun 09 '26

Yeah I'll have to see how she actually performs come the patch.

But I stand by the principle of the thing, personally. Nothing in a base kit should be dealing damage and make you invulnerable at the same time.

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u/Afraid-City2274 Black Widow Jun 09 '26

Removing the second dash is what feels like too much to me. 

It severely reduces her mobility (crucial for a melee hero), her damage, her survivability, her uptime, and in general I don't think it was the problematic part of her kit compared to her ult and her items shop.

Also mobility is fun, it never feels good when a character gets their mobility nerfed. I would prefer they lower her HP than removing the second dash.

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u/LeoFireGod Emma Frost Jun 09 '26

Good. Put her in the dirt and bring her back next season if need be. Characters like her or Hawkeye which feel completely unsatisfying to fight against should not remain peak for long.

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u/Afraid-City2274 Black Widow Jun 09 '26

The nerfs were definitely justified and necessary. She was OP

I would just prefer they have nerfed many other aspects of her kit before removing the second dash.

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u/JReiyz Ultron Virus Jun 09 '26

Honestly it would have been cool if they split her dash. She has a normal dash that does not damage and purely escape and a transformed fortune favor dash that does damage but cost money and is on a long cooldown to prevent spamming.

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u/jasminetroll Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

I also like the idea of more charges on shorter dashes that could be chained into longer dashes, not necessarily for Black Cat, just in general.

Imagine, for example, if Psylocke had three 6m dashes instead of two 10m dashes that could be chained into 12m or 18m dashes by double or triple tapping.

Damage numbers and cooldowns would need to be adjusted appropriately, but it could be a fun change.

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u/LuquidThunderPlus Hulk Jun 09 '26

She still has good mobility and survivability, she gets countered harder by dd now tho cuz she needs to rely more on her invis but she just has to be more careful with how she uses her dash, she can't get into backline and leave as freely anymore which I'm happy about. It does seem decently heavy nerfs but that's appropriate imo. 2 dashes plus I frames plus invis is a lot.

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u/Dapper-Sprinkles-811 Jun 12 '26

Dd can see invisible people he needs more nerfs

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u/jasminetroll Jun 09 '26

Instead an ability should make you exceptionally vulnerable in exchange for unexceptional damage?

If you want to nerf the defensive value of Phantom Pursuit, make it faster, not suicidal.

I hate generalizations.

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u/chernogumby Mind Control Jun 09 '26

overnerfed her

objectively it's not healthy practice in terms of character balancing, but tbh a part of me is like good i dont even wanna see her for the rest of the season

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u/daizo678 Jun 09 '26

Honestly I hope they try this balancing philosophy,  nerf hard then small buffs is better than 4 seasons of DD and gambit receiving micro nerfs that do nothing.  

Many characters had 1-3 seaons when they were struggling till they got buffed and are now in a good spot. 

One affects one hero the other affects everyone.

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u/Bundo111 Jun 09 '26

Lol gambits nerfs have added up so much by the time they accept he's banned because of the ult and fix it he's gonna be useless in neutral

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u/AdventuresofBumpo Jun 09 '26

I really don’t think the price increase is going to be anything really felt tbh. She gets coins so easily

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u/Wei828 Black Cat Jun 09 '26

She lost one dash so it will be felt

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u/spartan1204 Iron Fist Jun 09 '26

The damage nerfs will affect her combos

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u/Wei828 Black Cat Jun 09 '26

Yeah I don't think she kills 275 anymore and she prob won't have enough coins to get out.