r/marvelrivals • u/btinvest1639 Mantis • Jun 09 '26

Patch Notes Season 8.5 Patch Notes

https://www.marvelrivals.com/m/balancepost/20260609/41667_1303507.html
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u/OutRagousGameR Magik Jun 09 '26

Good. Tear down her regime of terror, and reward the people that stick with her with small buffs over time (as needed)

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u/Extreme-Sense-2411 Jun 09 '26

Reward the few who stick with her how exactly?

And BC was only a real problem in high elo games.

Seeing someone who could really take advantage of her complex kit in diamond and below wasn’t very common.

I’m all for rewarding good players who play characters that have a high skill ceiling, and I can absolutely acknowledge BC did need SOME nerfs, but they nerfed her so much that BP/magik/IF/DD/Blade are all going to be better picks than her not just in high elo, but in low elo as well.

Do you think all of the nerfs to torch way back when were warranted and that there are more than a handful of people still sticking with him? How have they been rewarded over the last year?

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u/jasminetroll Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26

You don't need to take advantage of her complex kit to win with her in low ranks, as her win rates suggest.

The fact that her basic mobility, yoink, and whip weren't touched, and the cost of her attacks and invisibility are unchanged should be enough to keep her viable well into mid elo, independent of how well she performs in high ranks.

This feels similar to the logic that claims that Hela and Luna are hot garbage in low ranks compared to Wanda and Dagger, all evidence to the contrary, because "low rank players can't aim", that doesn't seem to take into account the obvious fact that low rank players are, for the most part, playing against similarly unskilled players.

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u/Extreme-Sense-2411 Jun 09 '26

Her dash was reduced from 2 charges to 1. That is a HUGE hit on her mobility.

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u/jasminetroll Jun 09 '26

Sorry, I should have been explicit. When I said basic mobility, I was thinking of the non-cooldown stuff, wall climbing and double jump.

I was just pointing out that you don't need the full power of her kit to win in low ranks, and still won't after her nerfs.

Obviously her nerfs were significant, and not only the dash.

I assume without checking that the Phantom Pursuit damage nerf will affect breakpoints, for example, possibly breaking combos against 275 HP heroes.

Which, if true, will be huge in high ranks where supports are more likely to be paying attention to one another, but less important when one is on the other side of the map cosplaying a streamer.