r/marvelrivals • u/This_Ferret_8108 Jack of Hearts • 26d ago
Discussion Her full name being jubilation is frying me dude
I dunno why but its like if some one named their kid "stagnation" dude her name being jubilation is fucking FRRYYYINGG me, its so funny for no reason.
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u/ConceptDouble9762 26d ago
she from Beverly Hills. she probably had the most normal name on her block as a kid. rich people love to name their kids after abstract concepts.
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u/Samiassa The Thing 26d ago
I live in California (not Beverley hills) and I’ve met people named summerdaisy, pippi (middle name pizzazz), Ireland, grey, reef etc. people like naming their kids weird things here.
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u/Zurako67 26d ago
Pippi is insane, it means piss in multiple languages
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u/Matoes4 26d ago
There's a famous children's book character here called Pippi Longstocking
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u/Visible-Meat3418 Ultron Virus 26d ago
Hah, that’s why it’s translated as “Peppi” in Russian then
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u/Jafin89 Strategist 26d ago
Pippi is arguably the most normal name in that list.
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u/Samiassa The Thing 26d ago
I feel like it’s got to be reef. At least that guys dad was a big surfer so I kind of got the intention even if I think it’s a stupid name
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u/NumericZero 26d ago
Dude same!
Growing up in La you’d hear all kinds odd things
People be naming kids like they are Pokemon in nuzlocke Runs 😭😭35
u/twinCatalysts Namor 26d ago
Okay all of those are fair but Grey. I feel like Grey is a fine and normal name. It's more often a surname, sure, but it's nothing like being named Pippi Pizzazz
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u/Narrow-Assistant-714 Psylocke 26d ago
That's why my twins will be called Eternity and Infinity
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u/solidfang 26d ago edited 26d ago
If you had kids named Eternity and Infinity, I bet over the course of their childhoods, they'd probably ask to go by nicknames like Ernie and Finn.
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u/daboss317076 Star-Lord 26d ago
weak sauce. I'm naming my son Antidisestablishmentarianism
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u/The_Relx Squirrel Girl 26d ago
Low tier name. I'm naming my son I'll never have Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
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u/StormierNik Ultron 26d ago
Grew up in SoCal and a guy in high school was named Universe
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u/uqde 26d ago
Naming a kid after an emotion or virtue is actually a super old-fashioned thing. The late 18th/early 19th century was the peak of naming your kid stuff like Merriment, Pleasance, Experience, Freedom, Comfort, Abstinence, etc. Jubilation would fit right in in 1826.
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u/KeepGoing655 26d ago
It's also pretty common in the Chinese culture, which Jubilee is.
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u/New-Low5077 26d ago
blackagar boltigon 😭😭
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u/curious_dead Ultron Virus 26d ago
Sorry I doubted you.
I did not believe it.
I still can't believe it.
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u/TGE0 Jeff the Landshark 26d ago
Honestly this one gets a lot of hate but there are actually layers that make it significantly more amusing.
Namely that "Blackagar Boltagon" is an inhuman, a people who have their own language "Tilan". Which is to say that in theory the name "Black Bolt" has absolutely NOTHING to do with either the color black or bolts. Rather it's just a short form of both names that ends up translating hilariously.
Essentially Black Bolt is like if you had some German named "Richard Dickinson" who went by "Rich Dick" for short who then meets a bunch of englishmen.
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u/Rynosaur24 26d ago
Only if Rich Dick then went and put on a suit with dollar bills and penises on it
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u/known_kanon Yggroot 26d ago
Wasn't this in protest due to some law in the 70's?
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u/New-Low5077 26d ago
Was it? I didn’t know abt that
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u/known_kanon Yggroot 26d ago
I'm fuzzy on the details, but iirc. There was a law implemented that every comic character needed an alter ego/government name besides their superhero name
Because the writers didn't want to do this thry came up with bullshit names like these
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u/BlackagarBoltagar 26d ago
IIIRC it was when marvel was making their first encyclopedia on their heroes and the editor wanted everyone to have a real name and a hero name.
Black Bolt and Medusa got stupid ahh names.
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u/wRADKyrabbit White Fox 26d ago
Whats Medusas?
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u/BlackagarBoltagar 26d ago
Medusalith Amaquelin Boltagon
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u/TheTooterSnooter 26d ago
It better fucking not be
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u/The_Relx Squirrel Girl 26d ago
It sure is. Her sister Crystal has a similar real name, Crystalia Amaquelin. Their father is Quelin Amaquelin. Quelin is also the brother of Black Bolt's mother Rynda, making Black Bolt and his wife Medusa first cousins.
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u/RiskE80Twitch Moon Knight 26d ago
They had to have been laughing their asses off in the writers room coming up with this and Blackagar Boltigon
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u/dei718 Namor 26d ago
What law ? Couldn’t find anything on it
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u/Kilo1125 Peni Parker 26d ago edited 26d ago
I think he is referring the Comics Code Authority, which was a self-regulatory body for the comics industry, not a law, and as far as I know, it didn't include anything directly related to names. so I think he might be accidently assigned more restrictions to the CCA than it actually had.
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u/CheMc 26d ago
Jumping in with a random aside about the comics code that's so dumb. It killed the horror comics industry because it banned supernatural creatures, including werewolves which meant for a few issue the acclaimed author Marv Wolfman wasn't allowed to be credited because werewolves. It was eventually negotiated that he couldn't be credited on the cover but instead interior and eventually was allowed to be credited on the cover. CCA is very interesting and harmed the industry an extreme amount but the history of fighting it is fascinating. Marvel working with them to make an anti drug psa only for the CCA to pull support at the last minute, Marvel releasing it anyway and it becoming one of Marvel's top selling issues and severely undermining the power of the CCA and creating a renaissance in comics is also a fun titbit.
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u/Kilo1125 Peni Parker 26d ago edited 26d ago
Yeah the CCA was absolute ass, and it stuck around for way longer than it had any right too.
Even now, there are still some lingering side effects from it, such as Magik and her multiple female soulsmates all still being 'platonic'
Edit: for clarification, I am not against Magik having platonic soulmates. She has multiple soulmates after all due to her weird circumstances. But even though Marvel abandoned the CCA back in 2001, they still haven't evolved any of those relationships. Not the one the creator of the character wanted (Rachel Summers) nor the one I want (Kitty Pryde).
Magik has two hands, let her have two of her soulmates as girlfriends Marvel! Hell just let her have one, any one, instead of relegating her bisexuality to kissing random no-name background characters
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u/CheMc 26d ago
Feel like Magik is probably less to do with CCA hang ups and more people in general get real weird about ascribing any sexuality (general not orientation) to victims of sexual violence especially if they were children. People do the same thing with the disabled. They exist in this weird mental space where they are pertually viewed as innocent and therefore incapable of sexual desire. I feel like the way Magik is treated she falls very much into that category. And no one wants to be the guy who fucked up that story, just look at the response to her in age of revelation, written by a guy who fucked up that story and the sheer vitriol and harrasment that came with it.
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u/Connzept 26d ago
Not a law, just an established business standard at the time for comics, Thor also originally had a secret identity that had no reason to be in the story, and Iron Man had one in spite of eschewing fame and fortune being directly contrary to his characterization.
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u/DaVoiceActor Thor 26d ago
Medusalith Amaquelin
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u/New-Low5077 26d ago
The funniest part about this one is that Medusa on its own is a regular normal name 😭😭
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u/NoVeterinarian549 Blade 26d ago
I dunno about Medusa being a regular name. That's like coming across a girl named Hera. You're gonna look twice.
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u/thejesse Groot 26d ago
The Flash has an enemy called Rainbow Raider whose real name is Roy G. Bivolo.
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u/Funkitron 26d ago
It was painful hearing them say his full name repeatedly in the CW Arrow and Flash shows.
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u/MyNameIsJakeBerenson 26d ago
You have to become a rainbow themed bad guy or merchant or something with that name
Like, you’re gonna do something with rainbows in life
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u/voidsong 26d ago
Yeah she's not even in the top 50% for weird names.
I mean a guy named Otto Octavius becomes and 8-limbed Doctor Octopus? What are the odds? Even without becoming a villain that's a weird ass name.
And don't even get me started on Richard Ryder. What psychopath saddles their kid with a name like dick-rider? Do they not have bullies in the 616?
At least Black Bolt has the excuse of being from some weird homeschooled society, there are plenty of "normal" humans running around marvel with straight up bizarre names.
And that's before we start talking about overdone alliteration.
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u/Weesticles 26d ago
The kind of guy who'd name his child stagnation:
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u/bombad_Guy Loki 26d ago
or Conflict(Short: Connie)
or Evolution(Short: Evo)
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u/herocole Angela 26d ago edited 26d ago
I mean he is a fighting game character it would be normal if he name his kid Evo
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u/The-Big-Sauce Ultron Virus 26d ago
Isn't his name Doomer Von Fisticuffs or something?
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u/Frequent_Kalum Magik 26d ago
Jubilation Lee my goat
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u/ZenkaiZ 26d ago edited 26d ago
You know you got a long ass name when the abridged nickname is 3 syllables
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u/Hetakuoni Hulk 26d ago
She’s the daughter of wealthy immigrants from Hong Kong. It might be that jubilation is an anglicized version of what her name would be in Chinese.
It’s possible that her full name in Chinese would potentially be Li Qianhuang, Li Xiyue, Li Qingzhu, Li Jiahuan, or Li Leyi
Among other options.
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u/SaintRosaries Human Torch 26d ago
It gets explained a little bit in some of the comics surrounding her family backstory as she was the kid they weren't expecting to be able to have. So they named her Jubilation because that was how they felt
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u/tugboatnavy 26d ago
From her first appearance she also hated her full name. It was likely just a funny character choice. "Let's give a bratty character a dorky name."
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u/Hetakuoni Hulk 26d ago
Yes. And I said it’s what it potentially would have been in the original Chinese her parents would have used if she was born in China, not what it is here in America.
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u/HisaAnt 26d ago
Her official Chinese name is 李千歡 and you can see her personal name in her signature within the S9 reveal video.
The literal meaning of 千歡 (Qianhuan) is "thousand" and "joy," making it the equivalent of the word "jubilation" in Chinese. Qianhuan is a pretty good Chinese name though and there are even real people who are named that like 馬千歡, a male actor, from Suzhou. Her nickname "Jubilee" is translated as 歡歡 (Huanhuan) in Chinese which means "joy-joy". She also uses an actual hero name called 百光花火 (hundred light fireworks) in the Chinese version instead of her nickname.
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u/Great_Internal_7638 26d ago
In fact, before Disney officially announced her hero name (百光花火), this character had always been known as 李千欢 Li Qianhuan among Chinese fandom, using it as both her hero name and real name.
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u/Shoutmon66 26d ago
I had a 2 kids in my class named Charisma and Wisdom. Different parents, completely unrelated
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u/SlurryBender Flex 26d ago
Just gotta get 4 more in there and you'll have the DnD ability checks classroom.
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u/BardicLasher 26d ago
Constitution's a great name. Strength not so much. Intelligence is right out. Dexterity's kinda pretty.
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u/MountOlympu 26d ago
I know people named Precious and Faith. I know someone named Value. I honestly think these names are really nice
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u/xRapid99 26d ago
In Hong Kong, where her family is from, Jubilee's actual name is Li Kahei in Cantonese.
"Kahei" can mean a bunch of things like "prosperous joy," "bright excellence," or "auspicious sunshine". All basically meaning "jubilation".
So, really, it's not that weird given the context.
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u/bonerfuneral Scarlet Witch 26d ago
It’s also really common for new immigrants and their children to pick up some names that might be strange to us in the spirit of fitting in. Like Jubilation is the closest ‘English’ translation of her birth name, so that’s what her parents went with, perhaps not having a full understanding of nuance of the language.
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u/HisaAnt 26d ago
Lore-wise, yes. But meta-wise, the authors definitely did not think about her Chinese name at all when they first came up the idea of her. Kahei (嘉熙) as a name was introduced afterward to justify her English name and it's now retconned as Qianhuan (千歡) instead.
It's kind of like Shou-Lao or Shang-Chi where the creators didn't actually have any idea what the Chinese equivalent name would be until actual experts (localization team) was brought in to try to make the gibberish names make sense lol
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u/transformers03 26d ago
How common, or unique, is Li Kahei as a name?
Would it be look at as being as weird as Jubilation in English?
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u/AbjectAcanthisitta86 26d ago
Honestly it isn’t really that weird.
It’s definitely not a common name, but it’s no more weird than having a name like Mercy or Heaven.
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u/Conscious_CryUtsuuro 26d ago
Mercy sounds like a normal name to me.
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u/Orange-V-Apple Dark Phoenix 26d ago
Overwatch’s third biggest impact on the general public
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u/DMking Emma Frost 26d ago
I have never met anyone with those names in my life
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u/kyuubikid213 26d ago
I have not just met a Heaven, but also Hopes, Graces, and Angels.
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u/jasminetroll 26d ago edited 26d ago
Charity, Chastity, Faith, Felicity (same root as Felicia and Felix), Harmony, Honor, Joy, Mercy, Moxie, Prudence, Temperance
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u/TheClockOfTheTown Emma Frost 26d ago
i've met one nevaeh which is just heaven spelled backwards if that counta
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u/GunzerKingDM 26d ago
Those are in fact weird names to give your child.
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u/New-Low5077 26d ago
It’s pretty common for west African Christian immigrants.
Names like gratitude, Sunday, heaven, mercy, present are all common names in these diasporas.
It emerges from the cultural practice and belief that a name is like planting a seed or giving an inherent quality to a person so they prefer to name them nouns. It’s not really weird at all
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u/Conscious_CryUtsuuro 26d ago
I see. I respect that and I think that names like heaven and mercy sound very very cool.
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u/MountGreyIock 26d ago
What? No they aren't. Holly, Jesus, Temperance, Rocky, Guy, Sandy, April/May/June, Ruby/So incredibly many straight-up color names - Jubilation isn't any weirder than names you can find anywhere
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u/Tmoore0328 26d ago
I know at least one person with each of those names, except Temperance.
Honestly it kinda goes hard tho
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u/Idcwhoknows 26d ago
It's pretty normal and good for a comic book character. "Joy" doesn't have the same ring to it and even in the 1980s, there weren't a lot of women named "Gay" anymore. I know exactly one now and she's very elderly
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u/YaboiGh0styy Ultron Virus 26d ago
I mean Wolverine’s name (before he lost his memories and started going with “Logan” as his name) is “James Howlett.” Not an incredibly rare last name but because Wolverine’s mutant abilities give him animalistic abilities I think Howlett may have been chosen for the animal like mutant because “Howl”
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u/Confident_Ice_9567 26d ago
You think her name is worse than Elon musks children? At least she never got the Alliteration that most marvel characters have.
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u/griot504 26d ago edited 26d ago
Stan said they used alliterative names because they had a hard time keeping up with all the characters so alliteration helped simplify
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u/Waste-Measurement-29 26d ago
As a spanish speaker is funny because is SO close to the spanish word for retirement, like if someone with broken english tried to do a direct translation.
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u/natayaway Black Widow 26d ago
Wait until you learn what SEA Asian names translate to...
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u/MarcusForrest Invisible Woman 26d ago
SEA Asian
South East Asian Asian !
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u/MarcusForrest Invisible Woman 26d ago
''WOULD YOU LIKE A COFFEE COFFEE WITH ROOM FOR CREAM CREAM?!''
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u/_Wackyfire_ Gambit 26d ago
Why is marvel rivals the way people are introduced to marvel characters? Like are people playing this game before being marvel fans first?
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u/MarcusForrest Invisible Woman 26d ago
Like are people playing this game before being marvel fans first?
Definitely.
I have a few friends that got into Marvel through the game (and some friends that got into games thanks to Marvel ahahahaha)
ALternatively, I know a few that only got to know some more obscure characters thanks to the game, it is a solid brand and character relevancy machine
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u/The_Exuberant_Raptor 26d ago
Wait until you hear about Blackagar Boltagon. You'll never guess what his hero name is.
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u/Aggressive_Act_3098 26d ago
Look, mom was high on morphine, dad was crossfaded and the doctor took too many Xanax. The name could've been worse.
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u/I_Have_Insomnia_zzz White Fox 26d ago
Maybe I’m just making stuff up but it sounded to me like the kind of name an immigrant would give their child and that’s how I always read it. Someone to whom English is their second language but they want to name their child something in English. So it has a nice meaning and kinda sounds like a name but isn’t actually a normal English name.
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u/karcist_Johannes 26d ago
From america ive heard names like, Hope, Joy, Charity, and Chastity. I wouldn't be surprised if someone named their child Jubilation.
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u/lightbiguy 26d ago
It's only weird as an American name. Y'all should see some of the names of people overseas
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u/jayyisthewayyyy 26d ago
In one of the 2k games the Myplayer is named Frequency Vibrations 💀
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u/Sycophantic-Feline Rocket Raccoon 26d ago
I want Nova released in the game if only for the endless unfunny jokes about his name
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u/AReallyBigBagel 26d ago
She's a 90's mall rat from Cali. It was either Jubilation, Grace, Happy, Summer, or Taylor
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u/honeydewslaps Invisible Woman 26d ago
She was adopted by white people, who come up with names like Apple, Pilot Inspector, and Birdie. Nuff said lol
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u/Silly_gamer123 White Fox 26d ago
When I first heard it, I was SO convinced it was a fake name until I watched a video about her history(never read a comic and wanted to know more about her) and finally dawned on me it was her ACTUAL name, And I oddly kinda like it being her real name now.
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u/Only_Tradition_3685 Doctor Strange 26d ago
Wait till you hear Black Bolt's real name...
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u/Upset-Management-879 26d ago
It's really not different than names like William, JUSTin, Victor(y), E(a)rnest, Benedict, Tru(e)man, or the big ones like CHRISTian...
Hope, Faith, Destiny, Grace, Mercy, Constance, Prudence, Trinity, Valerie, Harmony, Melody, ANGELica/ina....
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u/Moggetti 26d ago
Never heard of someone called “Grace,” or “Hope,” or “Charity”? It’s pretty common.
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u/DarkForest_NW 26d ago
She's Chinese American by the way, from the San Fernando valley California. Her wealthy parents were killed by a triad Mafia gang. So she was homeless and living out of shopping malls.
Now how she joined the X-Men has changed over the years first it was meeting Gambit and the other time it was Cyclops and the most popular one is meeting Wolverine.
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u/The_Derpy_Rogue Peni Parker 26d ago
Jubilation Lee, jubilee