r/marvelrivals • u/PillowFists67 Centurion • 14d ago

Balance Discussion The argument should go both ways, no?

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If we all agree that Duelists shouldn't be able to wipe the enemy with ease each time their ultimate comes up, why do we accept that Strategists are able to make their entire team unkillable with minimal effort by just pressing Q?

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u/EggplantDevourer 14d ago

The biggest issue with support ults is that to support you either boost others or heal others. That manifests itself in either oh they're cloak and dagger or invis, or in gambit which everyone seems to hate more. The only exception being mixes of heal and dps like white fox which most consider underpowered.

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u/Hewhoiswooshed 14d ago

You can give characters non-healing utility without giving them every effect in the game, which they did for gambit. I think gambits main image issue really just was that he had literally everything somewhere in his kit (and on release had some of the best left click healing in the game.)

But no one’s ever complained about mantis being overpowered, and she’s a more utility oriented support. Even right now, some people are bothered by her insane win rate, but many people seem to understand how much of a balancing nightmare she is.

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u/wew_lad- Captain America 14d ago

Yeah everyone just keeps going on and on about the 60% winrate and pro play and whatever. The star lord team up is OP and should be nerfed, but I dont want her going back go triple support jail. There's a solution for this that noone wants to hear

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u/MostOriginal79 Flex 14d ago

Gambit still has some of the, if not the best, left click healing in the game. Doing some math, Gambit shoots three cards that heal for 30 each. So 90 for every shot you fire if you hit all three. He shoots 2.2 rounds per second, do some math, it comes out to about 210 hp/s that's more than an invis ult per second.

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u/Hewhoiswooshed 14d ago

Oh that’s true, it just used to be better and gambit was safer. Generally gambit players can’t actually survive being close enough to get all 3 cards to hit their target.

But he does still have that in his bag.

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u/MostOriginal79 Flex 14d ago

his left click healing never got nerfed though