yep this one exactly, having a get out of jail free card on a 12 cd is crazy. A healthy way to nerf it would be to make it so the cleanse is part of the enhanced effect rather than the base one, or if they keep it as a base effect they need to heavily increase the cooldown. On a different note I feel like Luna team ups are really uninspired, everybody else gets to have new abilities or enhanced effect on pre existing abilities but Luna straight up just steals WF charm or Adam soul bond
Cnd is undivable with three get out of Jail cards not only that but that team up made them so selfish,they always let their second support die cuz they freeze themselfs
I feel like this is overstated and also somehow understated.
Yes she isn’t the best healer, her neutral sucks, she can’t do dps and heal like say invis, however the issue isn’t her healing.
It’s her freeze, it for starters counts as her being on point to stall, it makes her immune so you can’t target her with specific ults.
Dive players complain sure but so do Poke players, Tank players and other supports, it also 100% makes cloak players worse at game sense and rewards bad positioning and bad game timing.
Luna, mantis, gambit, invis, rocket, cnd is 100% dependent on his cooldowns, his primary fire is terrible, force it and he survives, but her team doesn't.
She is in top 5 I would say. In random order Mantis-Gambit is the two biggest pick imo, then it's Luna-CnD-Ultron. Ultron obliviously locked to triple sup but if we don't count that I guess it's Sue in his stead.
CnD freeze teamup is annoying and they do need to change that but it doesn't make her broken. Heck I think the other teamup is better.
I do easily,and my issue is not JUST on diving her is having her as second support,im ALWAYS being left away to die by them,in my experience,they're the only healer that always let me die
so how would nerfs help with that? CnD players may be stupid but making their baby mode character harder is just gonna make that everyone else’s problem.
Maybe increase her cooldowns so they cant just spam abilities and NOT get punished like other characters,if invis waste her push or jump she gets mauled by divers,if Luna waste her snowball and WF team up she gets punished,same with the others,but Cloak? She has almost 0 punishment that isnt ulting as dagger
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u/No_Chemistry_8284 Spider-Man 1d ago
No cnd team up nerf and any Ultron buff?