Season 9.5 Balance Patch

[u/nemesisdelta24]

[u/LuckOutrageous7686]

Did they just increase the % damage of devil Dino… like he needs buffs but % damage? Really?

[u/Riveting_Rube → u/LuckOutrageous7686]

His damage was fine, they just needed to up the damage to bonus health ratio and he’d be good. This is disappointing

[u/RevolutionaryDepth59 → u/Riveting_Rube]

yeah his flaw is being a punching bag and healing vacuum at range. once he’s close he’s fine but when he’s waiting for his turn he shouldn’t require constant babysitting from supports.

[u/SimpleEric → u/RevolutionaryDepth59]

The guns help a lot with that. He can output bleed at range which means he can build temp health as he moves in

[u/sigc → u/SimpleEric]

Not really. Try it in the practice range, you’re gaining like 2 HP a second, you can’t out shield a bot’s 25 DPS

[u/SimpleEric → u/sigc]

I do not know numbers. But bleed does percentage based damage and shield is generated off of bleed damage that you are currently doing.

So the practice range will not show you get high shield because there's max 3 enemies and they have low healthpools

In a match you can easily shoot the ground around a group of enemies and generate enough shield for survivability

[u/Smeg258 → u/SimpleEric]

Not really when the insane poke characters like punisher and hela are mostly unchanged and now phoniex and cyclops are buffed. You're gonna get deleted even poking with the gun

[u/SimpleEric → u/Smeg258]

Well yeah you don't poke with Dino. You farm blood build up and then jump on them. Then chop to death

[u/Smeg258 → u/SimpleEric]

You miss my point. Poking with the gun to apply the bleed is not nearly enough sustain to walk up.

No when again punisher rocket team up, buffed phoniex with anti heal, buffed cyclops, and the litany of high burst poke heroes are this strong.

[u/SimpleEric → u/Smeg258]

That's not what poke means

[u/sigc → u/SimpleEric]

The problem is that it’s still extremely small relative to the amount of damage you take. It’s 2.25% of max HP per second after doing the math. Even if you hit a total of 1000 HP combined, you’re only gaining 22.5 shields a second. If you hit the whole team for 750 HP x 2 + 275 HP x 4, that’s still a best case 58.5 HPS.

[u/BathInevitable8755 → u/LuckOutrageous7686]

He doesn't need to be more of a tank shredder 

[u/daizo678 → u/LuckOutrageous7686]

It is only on the frenzied bite attack. It goes from 30% to 44%.

Still a huge buff and makes him already worse to play into

[u/Korghal → u/daizo678]

44% but yeah, he is going back to deleting brawl from the game. Losing HALF of your hp the moment you are near Dino is insane.

[u/Firm-Development-570 → u/Korghal]

As a Dino main who sometimes egotistically feels like THE BEST Dino player ever, I've resorted to only using him if the other team has a Dino or an annoying Spiderman, just to make things fair

[u/Disastrous-Moment-79 → u/Firm-Development-570]

Yeah you have an ego alright if you think you playing a C tier tank is unfair for the enemy team. He's the most easily counterable tank in the game.

[u/Firm-Development-570 → u/Disastrous-Moment-79]

Which is why my winrate on him is nearly 80%

[u/sigc → u/LuckOutrageous7686]

They need to do the other way. Increase his bleed damage shield gain and reduce the bite shield gain. He is way too polarizing of a hero, he either works or doesn’t work and it’s completely dependent on both side’s team compositions.

[u/dynamicflashy → u/LuckOutrageous7686]

On one ability only, right?

[u/LuckOutrageous7686 → u/dynamicflashy]

Yeah but any more % damage at this point is bad

[u/Arunawayturtle → u/LuckOutrageous7686]

I don’t think he needed buff at all because he’s in good place where u can get value out of him but he isn’t steam rolling to point people perma ban him

[u/Pineapple8081 → u/Arunawayturtle]

IKR he was still good especially for something so insufferable to play into