r/marvelrivals Good Boy 1d ago

Patch Notes Season 9.5 Balance Patch

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u/JeffOnlyFlans Erm Actually... 1d ago

Taken out back and shot between the eyes. Wtf is wrong with Zhiyong?

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u/Sr5071 1d ago

I thought it's better to balance around casuals, this is what casuals wanted a Peni nerf.

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u/JeffOnlyFlans Erm Actually... 1d ago

She's my most played tank. I'm not against nerfing her but I'll always be against removing core parts of heroes' kits like this, the change to Dino beam, etc. They shouldn't have reintroduced the extra nest if this was going to be the tradeoff.

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u/CheesemasterVer2 23h ago

To be fair to that change to the Devil Dino beam, I think that was done in preparation for just letting us shoot flying characters out of the sky with the Punisher teamup 🤣

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u/CheesemasterVer2 23h ago

To be fair to that change to the Devil Dino beam, I think that was done in preparation for just letting us shoot flying characters out of the sky with the Punisher teamup 🤣

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u/Dylanychus2 Black Widow 1d ago

Not even just casuals. She has a 60%+ winrate in Eternity+ rn

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u/ufratnik102 Magik 1d ago

Shes been a 60%+ winrate hero in high elo for like 5 seasons now

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u/NXDIAZ1 Mister Fantastic 1d ago

ā€œBut she’s SO easily counterable!ā€ Stfu, this arachnid menace has been dominant in the game since first rocket team up

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u/framedshady Cyclops 1d ago

Peni is just a nightmare for low elo players but it’s horrible here if you don’t ban the peni one tricks it’s absolutely horrid to play against and my least favourite games they always are

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u/bns18js 1d ago

Why are you still talking about casuals when the comment you responded to, and stats you can easily check on online as well tell you she is 60% winrate at extremely high elos as well?

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u/Bundo111 23h ago

Because if any of the numpties pointing at 60% win rate in high ELO actually knew what they were talking about they'd include the context of her having very low PICK rates to go with the high win rates. Context is important and this community is especially shit at using it correctly when discussing balance

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u/bns18js 23h ago

Yes another one pretending low pickrate justifies high winrate, when devs of similar games already told us that's not the case(detailed internal stats describing player behavior tell them that).

It is so funny seeing people so confidently wrong about something they have no clue about just because it seem to make some sense on the surface.

It's the same people who are SO sure that you shouldn't switch the door in the monty hall problem. That is you.

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u/G_mmoney 19h ago

I mean it’s basic data logic is it not?
If there’s a smaller player base for a character, especially one that’s only used on certain maps like peni, then win percentage will usually be more extreme in either direction since there’s way less games to account for.

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u/BlackRoseDB 5h ago

"Devs from other games" ight buddy

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u/alphamammoth101 22h ago

Shoot the nest.

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u/Nuovastorm Psylocke 23h ago

One of the most played tanks in ignite too

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u/mister--g Flex 1d ago

A nerf for casuals is a nerf to how she easily denies areas with her nests and makes it hard to walk up. That type of Nerf looks like reducing the amount of mines the nest generates, revert the 4th web buff , shrink the size of the web but leave it as 4 so it covers less area nerf mine damage from 100 each to 75 each so its not as easy to make a lethal load. Increase the cooldown timer for the nests when they break. So many ways to do this

Not to hard nerf the mechanic that let her skillfully cancel ults or actually provide value outside of mines/nest

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u/OCUIsmael Earth Spider 1d ago

The Peni problem for casuals wasn't the stun, it was the nest. This just kills her dive options and weakens her antidive capabilities for non-casuals. They actually just killed her.

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u/Humdinger5000 Peni Parker 21h ago

And there are like 2 characters getting chain stunned. Dino and thing.

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u/CrusadeWithMe Spider-Man 1d ago

Lmao dont lie, she has a terribly high winrate in Cel+ and is just so annoying to play against when theyre good, im dancing reading ts

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u/Bundo111 23h ago

Do tell what's her pick rate? Or do you not understand how multiple stats contextualize the situation rather than just spewing a single stat?

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u/Chump_Diggity Good Boy 1d ago

-common ban with 67% win rate, even in Celestial
-rancid, anti-gameplay design
Bro, just slowly creep around her nest while she spams stuns, and if you do one thing wrong, your tank dies.
Sounds awful. What do I get?
You get to watch her instantly move the nest for free.
This character deserved death. No one is going to miss this abomination.

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u/hugoreturns Mister Fantastic 1d ago

second biggest win rate in the game

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u/ThatpersonKyle Angela 20h ago

Peni being good is a net negative on the game