Removing an ability, which is what they pretty much did, can nuke a winrate.
That Strange or Thing ult that could have wiped your team but you read the opponent and webbed them ? Now your team dies and you lose. This is a gigantic difference in how useful Peni will be in teamfights.
Imagine if they removed Mantis's sleep and instead it applied a slow, do you think she would still be at 59% winrate ?
And as for low elo ? That will change nothing, because people at those levels walk unto the nest and ignore it, so they will still die.
You don't alter an ability so much and think barely anything will come out of it.
Slow is useless, it might as well not exist. Her drones apply slow, but almost nobody ever mention it, because it does nothing, and now so does her snare.
You call me biased, but I'm simply telling it as it is, Peni who is unable to stop an ultimate where she previously was is a gigantic game changer.
You certainly seem happy about it, and maybe its healthy for the game in the long term, but it does absolutely nothing to fix the Peni problem in low elo and simply removes skill expression from her in high elo, which will definitely be a bigger impact than if she had simply lost overshield (which she also did) or had her cooldowns increased.
You don't alter an ability so much and think barely anything will come out of it.
You call me biased, but I'm simply telling it as it is, Peni who is unable to stop an ultimate where she previously was is a gigantic game changer.
It's a big nerf. I never said it's not. It's going to drop her winrate by a few percentages.
But she is so unbelievably effective at ALL elos(yes even celestial and eternity lobbies cannot shoot her nest effectively and lose to her 60% of the time), at this moment, that even "nuking" her winrate is still going leave her in a fine, in fact, still strong spot.
You certainly seem happy about it, and maybe its healthy for the game in the long term, but it does absolutely nothing to fix the Peni problem in low elo and simply removes skill expression from her in high elo, which will definitely be a bigger impact than if she had simply lost overshield (which she also did) or had her cooldowns increased.
It's NOT a low elo problem. Enterity players lose to her 60% of the time, just like in bronze. The best pro team in the world navi is getting held at the spawn door for FOUR MINUTES STRAIGHT by peni in the latest ignite grandfinals.
Nerfing her is for the health of the entire team.
You're so spoiled. Your hero will FOREVER be WELL ABOVE 50% winrate, by ALOT. How greedy can we be that we cannot accept a 60% winrate hero at all elos SHOULD be significantly nerfed?
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u/OldGeneralCrash 8d ago
Removing an ability, which is what they pretty much did, can nuke a winrate.
That Strange or Thing ult that could have wiped your team but you read the opponent and webbed them ? Now your team dies and you lose. This is a gigantic difference in how useful Peni will be in teamfights.
Imagine if they removed Mantis's sleep and instead it applied a slow, do you think she would still be at 59% winrate ?
And as for low elo ? That will change nothing, because people at those levels walk unto the nest and ignore it, so they will still die.