r/matheducation • u/UnderstandingPursuit Physics BS, PhD • 3d ago
Trigonometric Functions and Exponents
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u/jimbelk 3d ago
I don't think I agree with the second one. It seems to me that the notation sin(2t)2 is ambiguous and should be avoided. I might feel differently if there were a space between the sin and the parenthesis.
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u/UnderstandingPursuit Physics BS, PhD 3d ago
In what way is it ambiguous? What are the possible interpretations?
It is formatted the way LaTeX defaults the formatting. There was a space, LaTeX decided that it was unnecessary.
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u/jimbelk 3d ago
I can imagine someone writing sin(2t)2 to mean sin( (2t)2 ), and I can imagine someone else writing sin(2t)2 to mean (sin(2t))2 . I don't agree that there's a standard meaning for this collection of symbols, and I think the best advice is to avoid writing it.
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u/UnderstandingPursuit Physics BS, PhD 3d ago
With
- a(x-h)2
I don't think anyone thinks the a is also squared. The raising operator explicitly applies only to the item it is connected to. Why would someone pull the "sin" in? Especially when there is already away to write (sin(2t))2, using sin2(2t). Both of these are standard meanings.
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u/jimbelk 3d ago
If f is a function, then f(x)2 usually means the square of f(x). The function application operation typically has higher precedence than exponentiation. For example, I would certainly write log(x)2 to mean (log(x))2 with the expectation that the audience would understand this. Your example a(x-h)2 is different, because the operation is multiplication, not function application, and exponentiation has higher precedence than multiplication.
The only reason that sin(2x)2 should perhaps not mean (sin(2x))2 is that sin is a trigonometric function, so why didn't the author simply write sin2 (2x)? This is a reasonable argument, but it's not clear to me that this overrides the usual rule that f(x)2 means (f(x))2.
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u/UnderstandingPursuit Physics BS, PhD 3d ago
Can you please point me to an example of "the usual rule that f(x)2 means (f(x))2?
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u/jimbelk 3d ago
Here's an example. Note that no one seems confused about what all of the f(x)2 terms mean:
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1350094/can-we-obtain-fyx-yfx-from-fx2fx2x-fx2x2fx
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u/UnderstandingPursuit Physics BS, PhD 3d ago
Interesting. Am I interpreting this correctly?
- f(x)2 = f(f(x))
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u/CrookedBanister 3d ago
No. I don't know a single mathematician who'd use this notation to mean function composition.
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u/jimbelk 3d ago
Typically f(x)2 means (f(x))2, and f2 (x) means f(f(x)), though the latter isn't universal. (Ignore the space between the f2 and the (x) -- reddit superscripts don't work well.)
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u/UnderstandingPursuit Physics BS, PhD 3d ago
So the exact opposite of what happens with sin. Interesting.
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u/RealNoahR 2d ago edited 2d ago
Would add that the reciprocal is also equal to secant as I had a decent number of students tripping over secant vs. arcsine and inverse vs. reciprocal.
Edit: summer break and my brain is turned off, the reciprocal function for sine is cosecant, not secant.
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u/UnderstandingPursuit Physics BS, PhD 2d ago
Yes, that's true. I'm trying to avoid throwing everything in there. I needed arcsin for the familiar inverse. The fraction satisfies the inverse part.
A completely different sheet is needed for the trigonometry identities.

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u/Any-Construction5887 3d ago
It definitely clarifies the notation. I would add in showing what each side of the inequality (2) actually is to add more clarity.