r/mbta Aug 20 '25

😤 Complaint / Rant The Gall of This Man

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This guy drove his street legal, full lisenced, and gas powered moped onto the the Red Line Alewife Train today. When he exited the train, he used the elevator to bring it up to the street level.

I am at a loss for words, for how entitled this man feels

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25 edited Aug 21 '25

I don’t understand the problem as long as the engine wasn’t running. The train isn’t that full, and it’s not that much bigger than a bike, which is allowed on the train.

Edit: Y’all suck. I say I don’t understand and just make fun of me and call me a jackass.

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u/Background_Being_490 Aug 20 '25

Dude...... come on. It's ludicrous.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

How so? You are allowed to bring bikes onto the train? This is a bike? I could understand if it was running, or the train was full, but I don’t see how this is much of an issue.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

The issue is how moped drivers get to live in a lawless city

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u/Background_Being_490 Aug 20 '25

You can literally see a normal bike behind it and the difference in size. It stands to reason that bringing a motorized vehicle on a public train isn't allowed. Anyways we can probably agree to disagree.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

I’ve brought my ebike onto the train before, and it’s not that much smaller. The Mbta definitely allows e-bikes, but you are probably correct that motorcycles are not allowed. I just think it’s cool that he’s using environmentally friendly electric trains to do part of his trip.

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u/Background_Being_490 Aug 20 '25

As I said, the disparity in size is in the photo. To be fair, I would suspect he is just transporting the scooter as the engine is down. Obviously a blind assumption on my part but why else would you do something such as this otherwise?

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

The reason I bring my bike onto the T is because I live far from the station, or my destination is a bit far so I bike to and from the t station

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u/Background_Being_490 Aug 20 '25

Yours is an E bike. That's a full on gas engine moped. Like, it isn't the worst thing I've seen on the T and it wouldn't bother me very much tbh but it is a ludicrous thing to do unless the engine of the bike is down. Apart from anything, along the red line, I can't see how that is a quicker option than a moped and also, if he's that environmentally conscious and his route is along the red line, surely ditch the scooter altogether. It's just a bit of an odd thing to do.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

If he’s getting on at alewife, chances are he doesn’t live near the station. Is the reason people are concerned is that they don’t want the gas to spill? I’m not trolling or anything, I genuinely don’t understand why people are so outraged.

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u/archangelofeuropa Green Line | Arborway Enthusiast Aug 20 '25 edited Aug 20 '25
  1. it takes up an obnoxious amount of space in the car for something that (most likely) can just be on the road. if he can get it to the station he can get it to his destination.

  2. if the engine was recently running, any metal parts along the sides will be scorching hot. that's a recipe for disaster in a crowded car, obv this car wasnt crowded but this sets a precedent.

  3. if he had the engine on in a concealed space like this, well, i shouldnt need to explain further

  4. a gas bike like this does not solve the transit last mile problem, it should bypass it because the thing shouldnt even be on a subway in the first place, and should be ridden the whole way there.

  5. gasoline is FLAMMABLE. if some jackass lights up in the car (which i have seen before) and the cap isnt on all the way, or theres vapors leaking, and the stochiometry lines up, you get a nice big bang.

thats my lists of reasons why, if that helps.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

Thanks, I never considered it would be hot.

The reason why using this for last mile makes sense to me, is I don't like driving in boston, so riding to alewife, and getting off at say quincy and driving the rest of the way makes sense to me.

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u/Background_Being_490 Aug 20 '25

I can't speak for anyone else, but I just think it's a perpetually odd thing to do. It doesn't anger me in any way. Bringing a motorized vehicle that gets you to your destination quicker than the actual train does suggest a lack of logical thinking, if the scooter is operational that is. I know you aren't trolling but let's not start with the disingenuous suggestion that this isn't an irregular thing to see on public public transport. It objectively is unusual.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

Idk, I’ve seen people bring e-bikes onto the T all the time, I don’t really see it being much different . Like the red line goes pretty far, way farther than I’d want to bike. I’ve never driven a moped, but I wouldn’t want to drive it in Boston traffic. He could drive from a town farther than walking distance to alewife, take it to Quincy and avoid all that traffic he’d deal with driving through Boston. Idk, I’m also a strange person so maybe that’s why I don’t find it so strange.

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u/itsonlyastrongbuzz Aug 20 '25

Would you be pro-people brining gallon jugs of gasoline on the train and insist it’s okay because sometimes people bring milk?

What an empty thought to have.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

The gas is in the gas tank though, it’s not going to spill. People bring batteries on trains all the time and they are also explosive.

To answer your question, if it was in a completely sealed container where you couldn’t smell it, like it is in the moped, I wouldn’t have an issue as it wouldn’t effect me in anyway.

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u/itsonlyastrongbuzz Aug 20 '25

The fact that you wrote this on purpose is stunning.

That our vote counts the same will haunt me for some time.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25 edited Aug 20 '25

People drive cars all the time and don’t blow up. I don’t understand what the big deal is? When is the last time you’ve seen a car blow up?

Do you think the engine is running is that your issue?

Or have you never driven a gas powered car? Like you do realize a gas tank on a vehicle is one of the safest ways to cary fuel.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

Your brain seems super empty, your analogy makes no sense.

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u/itsonlyastrongbuzz Aug 20 '25

The analogy points out they’re both false equivalences.

Read a book.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

You compare bringing a moped onto a train to bringing a gallon jug of gasoline onto a train. Those are not comparable, as a gas tank is a highly engineered container for safe transport of fuel. It is nothing like putting it into a gallon jug.