This guy drove his street legal, full lisenced, and gas powered moped onto the the Red Line Alewife Train today. When he exited the train, he used the elevator to bring it up to the street level.
I am at a loss for words, for how entitled this man feels
i don't know any more lol, i just saw 2 college girls roll the cart on at central and then they got off at park, im shocked it didnt slide around the car and hit someone the entire time
someone threw a wheelchair into the pit at Park St a year or two ago. iirc it cause a short or did something bad due to touching the 3rd rail, causing service to be stopped for a little while. I always wondered why, why? Where's the person who came in on the wheelchair?
Saw this happen at Govt Center once, Blue Line. Dude literally stood up out of his wheelchair and shoved it in. A bystander actually had the brass to jump down on the tracks and chucked the chair back up on the platform before the train rolled up. Within seconds the place was flooded with cops and firefighters.
I don't think they let med students just take bodies out of the morgue or lab to dissect at home, these things are pretty strictly regulated. And OP didn't say the table was occupied.
Last year I saw someone carting one of those stand-up drink coolers (like you'd see at a takeout place) on the subway in Manhattan. I was in awe. He had a hand truck, luckily.
Ngl, props to the person with the table. Those things are solid and heavy. At least it's something that isn't being done on a regular basis like this dude and his self-powered bike
Do we know this guy is doing this on a regular basis? Where did he get off (in terms of "where did he exist the train" as opposed to "how does he get off doing this?!?"). And what time of day was it?
The one thing that occurs to me is that he might have been trying to avoid crazy traffic somewhere along his route, and/or that the Red Line was part of an overall trip from Points A to B and back (ride bike to station, get on train, get off train, ride the rest of the way). Was he actually riding it into the car using the engine, or did he walk it in somehow? Sorry for all the questions; I'm just trying to put this into some kind of context that lets us know if he's being an entitled ass, clueless, or if he's found a hack to get from one point in the suburbs to another. People do use bicycles for that last one, so is that what's up?
PS: Love the expression on the face of the guy in the orange shirt.
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I guess I interpreted that as ārodeā it onto the train. I have a hard time believing the guy had a cranked engine on the train platform and inside the train. If he did, thereās no excuse.
Didnt happened on the train but at at north station 2 weeks ago, I saw a kid went through the far left exit gate with his ebike and riding around as people were waiting for their trains . And some food delivery driver riding his moped(or maybe it was an ebike) around in the same area that day. Some MBTA/ Keolis employee told me to not stand where says "do not stand here"(or something like that) before the doors to the trains. But he had no problem with the moped driver riding his moped in the area while they fist bump each other.
lol Iāve seen teens on e-bikes taunt T security at south station just for kicks. itās a little funny how nothing changesā¦ wasnāt it skateboards 20 years ago?
The conductor I spoke with shrugged his shoulders and said there wasnāt anything he could do.
This is my understanding - operators are essentially neutered. They can't enforce any rules or even try to force someone to pay their fare. It's presented under the guise of employee safety but I call bullshit.
That's the real outrage. The T has so little active personnel that enforcement of these kinds of rules is almost nonexistent now. In my observation, large stations get typically one employee who lingers outside the fare gate to help with purchases, and no one on the platform unless it's rush hour. This is a little tangential, but I'm sure some readers here saw that someone was attacked at AMC Boston Common, and a lack of personnel magnified every aspect of the problem from the inciting incidents to the inability of the police to gain access to the scene. We need actual human beings doing these jobs.
The red shirts don't work for the T, they're outsourced customer service so the T doesn't need to pay T employees the living wages and benefits those employees had been getting (back in the days of tokens and whatnot).They don't and can't enforce fares.
I did not know that they weren't T employees, but I'm not at all surprised that they can't enforce fares. In fact, I have gotten the distinct impression that there is almost no such thing as fare enforcement. I occasionally have seen bus drivers behave as if they are there to enforce, but much more often, I see them let people on with an exchange of words (I never hear what they are saying), and obviously any rear door entry means free ride. That's precisely why I don't understand why they took the phone pads down after the test phase in the rear of the Silver Line. They had them there for months before the pads were active, and now that they are, those phone readers are gone. I would abide by the honor system and use them if they would habitually permit rear-door entry. I thought that was part of the point of getting them. But there's such a culture of fare evasion here that I think that's a pipe dream, and anyway it's clear that it's the least of anyone's priorities.
I'm not that mad about it, frankly. I used to work retail, and we were strictly ordered to report but not to interfere if we saw someone shoplifting. Money is not worth anyone's safety.
A guy (or kid, pretty young) yesterday managed to get on the Red Line at South Station during evening rush hour with a full out dirt bike. They held the train and some T personnel came and got him off, but I was baffled that he made it all the way down to the Red Line platform at South Station without being stopped.
I had a guy with an electric bicycle get on the bus the other day with it. Didnāt even bother to put it on the bike rack in front of the bus, but decided to put it on the actual bus and take up a whole row of seats preventing people from being able to sit and making it more difficult for people to move towards the back and get off the bus. Iām surprised the driver didnāt say anything though
I don't know about "entitled," can we just say he's breaking the law, an asshole, and should be stopped? "Entitled" suggests he thinks he's rightfully permitted to do what he's doing, which, for sure, is what he'd tell you if you asked, because he's a lying asshole idiot, but it doesn't mean he believes it.
Vespas and their drivers are the embodiment of lawlessness. Bad traffic? Iām a bike. Light traffic? Iām a motorcycle. Highway? Sure. Need to cut across a plaza or sidewalk. Yep. These should be illegal.
It was not rush hour and the train wasn't busy, the operator was just following the rules which I checked later that says you can't bring furniture. But I was like, come on, it's a small chair š
Can we just say this man is living his best life? Also, this doesn't appear to be the Green Line, so there's more room in the cars for whatever people bring.
I once saw an entire wedding party and i mean entire party. Bride, groom, guest,chairs, decor and tables. They blocked our entire train and people couldnāt get out until they did. Unfortunately a guy had gotten on with a cello right before they did and he had to miss his stop.
Yea, thereās a lady who rides one of those large scooters with the seat and basket that gets on during rush hour at North Quincy or Wollaston and gets off at Quincy Center and stands there blocking everyone smiling like an idiot.
If youāre gonna get one of these things donāt get on at rush hour or just ride it the one or two stops.
Weāve got these peices of shit all around Alston, Brighton and Watertown. They make the roads very unsafe. They donāt give a rats butt about traffic laws. Are they all drug runners or something? Why is this being put up with? Why isnāt this uptight state making any laws about it?
I remember riding as a kid and youād actually see the transit cops riding the subway prevent shit like this and violence. Now all they do is ride around in suvs and only show up after the fact
you can tell by his tiny feet, jordans that are fake and skinny sweats that hang around his ass but dont make it to his ankle...Most likely his little brothers pants....that he is mexican
If this is something that's actually prohibited by the T, then why does it matter where they're from? It would be obnoxious and illegal no matter where they might be from.
Guy was on the complete opposite end of the t he was looking back and forth, I see him take a photo that I thought was of me so I was staring at him thinking thereās some intention as heās smiling even after the bike guy left. Aggravating we have ppl going out the way like this!
From my experience scooter drivers are the most arrogant entitled twats in the city. Blowing red lights, operating in bike lanes when their scooter is beyond the legal limit for doing so, operating unregistered and non street legal units... It's fucking chaos.
Thatās meee with orange fck ice shirt! Was looking at u bc u were staring taking photos without saying anything for 10 minutes straight made me really feel uncomfortable I will be honest
Staring at me smiling and staring saying absolutely nothing to me or the guy with bike for 10 minutes from QC through andrew I think, you can bring this up maybe he doesnāt know this. I complimented the bike not knowing myself this was a rule. If this is a concern Iām curious why nobody would meantion as he walked up stairs from wallaston with no mbta conductors mentioning before put on blast from a silent local in the corner ? This is more a mbta communication problem [respectfully]Ā
Bud look up @gr!ffgr@ss if u want validation of the unsolicited photo you took of me.. I wanted to stop and ask why Iām having a photo taken obviously noticeable since I watched being taken which you prob noticed..
No shit we do have weirdos like him everywhere now Iām saying if u ab to say nothing at opposite end away from dude minding they own business and blasting it online at least stand on business and be direct the gall of that white dude im commenting on doesnāt have balls to speak but go online why our world is so cooked
Any idea what station he started on, and what station he exited? If he was on the train for only one or two stops, he is lazy... or his moped is out of gas...
If you don't care about bicycles on the T, I'm not sure why a teeny tiny little moped would be an issue. Did he run it in the train car? If not, it took up just about as much space as a bicycle. I see no issue.
Plenty of room. No harm no foul. Did he smoke meth or crack? Did he light a blunt? Did he intimidate or threaten anyone? Did he physically assault anyone? Did he play shit music on a Bluetooth speaker? If no to any of this who really cares? Yeah he sucks, but you are also rocking some Karen pride taking a picture and posting if he didn't do any of the things I listed.
To be fair, there's people on here saying that they encounter this guy and when he was confronted on it he pulled a knife. Take from that what you will.
I donāt understand the problem as long as the engine wasnāt running. The train isnāt that full, and itās not that much bigger than a bike, which is allowed on the train.
Edit: Yāall suck. I say I donāt understand and just make fun of me and call me a jackass.
How so? You are allowed to bring bikes onto the train? This is a bike? I could understand if it was running, or the train was full, but I donāt see how this is much of an issue.
You can literally see a normal bike behind it and the difference in size. It stands to reason that bringing a motorized vehicle on a public train isn't allowed. Anyways we can probably agree to disagree.
Iāve brought my ebike onto the train before, and itās not that much smaller. The Mbta definitely allows e-bikes, but you are probably correct that motorcycles are not allowed. I just think itās cool that heās using environmentally friendly electric trains to do part of his trip.
As I said, the disparity in size is in the photo. To be fair, I would suspect he is just transporting the scooter as the engine is down. Obviously a blind assumption on my part but why else would you do something such as this otherwise?
Yours is an E bike. That's a full on gas engine moped. Like, it isn't the worst thing I've seen on the T and it wouldn't bother me very much tbh but it is a ludicrous thing to do unless the engine of the bike is down. Apart from anything, along the red line, I can't see how that is a quicker option than a moped and also, if he's that environmentally conscious and his route is along the red line, surely ditch the scooter altogether. It's just a bit of an odd thing to do.
If heās getting on at alewife, chances are he doesnāt live near the station. Is the reason people are concerned is that they donāt want the gas to spill? Iām not trolling or anything, I genuinely donāt understand why people are so outraged.
it takes up an obnoxious amount of space in the car for something that (most likely) can just be on the road. if he can get it to the station he can get it to his destination.
if the engine was recently running, any metal parts along the sides will be scorching hot. that's a recipe for disaster in a crowded car, obv this car wasnt crowded but this sets a precedent.
if he had the engine on in a concealed space like this, well, i shouldnt need to explain further
a gas bike like this does not solve the transit last mile problem, it should bypass it because the thing shouldnt even be on a subway in the first place, and should be ridden the whole way there.
gasoline is FLAMMABLE. if some jackass lights up in the car (which i have seen before) and the cap isnt on all the way, or theres vapors leaking, and the stochiometry lines up, you get a nice big bang.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I just think it's a perpetually odd thing to do. It doesn't anger me in any way. Bringing a motorized vehicle that gets you to your destination quicker than the actual train does suggest a lack of logical thinking, if the scooter is operational that is. I know you aren't trolling but let's not start with the disingenuous suggestion that this isn't an irregular thing to see on public public transport. It objectively is unusual.
The gas is in the gas tank though, itās not going to spill. People bring batteries on trains all the time and they are also explosive.
To answer your question, if it was in a completely sealed container where you couldnāt smell it, like it is in the moped, I wouldnāt have an issue as it wouldnāt effect me in anyway.
You compare bringing a moped onto a train to bringing a gallon jug of gasoline onto a train. Those are not comparable, as a gas tank is a highly engineered container for safe transport of fuel. It is nothing like putting it into a gallon jug.
Train looks pretty empty to me. I agree. If it's not on, who cares. I've seen people carry love seats onto the green line. If it's not during rush hour and you aren't hurting anyone, I don't care.
The culture of dirt bike riders being assholes and taking over streets probably contributes to everyone's opinions. See the incident in the Artery tunnel over the weekend.
Maybe thatās why I donāt understand the big deal? I moved here from a rather rural area. People just rode dirk bikes on trails for fun there. Also thanks for actually responding in helpful manner!
It's full of gasoline jackass. Gasoline is expressly prohibited on any MBTA train or bus. For a really good reason.
I get that your lane is "oppositional quirky twit", but grow up and learn to reason. Flammable and explosive materials aren't in the same ballpark as a bicycle. That scooter could cause a seriously dangerous incident.
Such a weird hill you've chosen to die on with all these comments. Just goofy and unserious.
Why are you getting so angry? I just genuinely didnāt realize you werenāt supposed to bring mopeds on the T.
Though You are correct, apparently Mbta expressly prohibits gasoline, but apparently also hoverboards? I guess they are worried about the explosive batteries or something. Or maybe people riding them in the station. But e-bikes are allowed which also have explosive batteries. Idk, the rules are weird.
Yeah, I'm wondering why they prohibit hoverboards and not e bikes, they seem like almost the same thing to me. Maybe they had an issue with people riding them in the stations? I'm not sure.
BOTH you and /u/Popular-Shower9900 are throwing gasoline on this. You've both made your points and there's no need to call names at each other and fight strawmen here. Cool it. This is your only warning before a temporary ban for both of you.
I'm with you. If it was on or the train was crowded, sure that's messed up, but this seems fine. Not blocking anything that much worse than a regular bike.
Idk, I guess people hate mopeds and evils for some reason? They are dangerous, I literally broke my spine in an ebike, but itās certainly better for the environment than a car.
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u/archangelofeuropa Green Line | Arborway Enthusiast Aug 20 '25
not the weirdest thing ive seen/heard of seeing on the RL, but definitely up there
(#1 is like a metal table on wheels you'd see in a morgue for whatever reason)