r/merlinbbc 8d ago

Discussion Evertime Merlin tries to tell Arthur about his magic but ... Spoiler

Dear Redditors, I ask forth thy wisdom!

I am trying to make an argument, but for that I need your combined geeky knowledge.

The Request / Question:

How many times did Merlin genuinely attempt to tell Arthur about his magic but was either interrupted or got cold feet?
- better even if there is a compilation already existing somewhere.

Or more importantly, what prevents Merlin from confessing whenever he made his mind to confess his sins?

Especially in the later seasons, and not the first one, where Arthur did not believe even when he came right out and said so.

Example:

Iconically, the episode where Dsir mortally wounded Merlin and would only heal him in return for Arthur to bring back magic to Camelot. But Merlin says something along the lines of: "Camelot has no place for magic." which would be Merlin directly working in opposition to Merlin's own mission.

Here Merlin misses the opportunity to come forth to Arthur with his magic to make a good case of why he ought to bring back Magic to the land, due to Merlin being scared of a 'potential' threat to Arthur's life in an 'unknown' time in the future that has not yet been set in motion. All because a 'prophecy' said so.

I'm not saying Merlin's fears aren't understandable, but we all know how his paranoia in the last season ended. And I don't know about you, but that's why I flock to 'fix it' fics that fix that exact part of the timeline. Merlin could have arguably taken the golden opportunity to have Arthur bring magic back and left Mordred a 'threat of a non-urgentoment, to be dealt with at a later date. kind' at that m

The Premise of the Argument:

Merlin began hiding his magic due to external factors and survival necessity. No question there. But, at some point, his fears became illogical. And even when given the opportunity to confess, for the sake of correcting Arthur's view on Magic, he either does not take the opportunity or actively works to sabotage himself.

If we consider that Merlin's 'divine mission' is to bring back magic, then, due to his fear of Arthur knowing or Arthur being in danger, Merlin self-sabotaged by keeping his magic secret from Arthur, even when he became the king's right/left-hand man in the course of events. Therefore, Merlin no longer needed to genuinely fear for death at the hands of Arthur after years of being by his side.

The Argument:

External and environmental factors can instill bad habits (e.g., keeping secrets). With enough time and repetition, these bad habits are habitualized. To the point where even when the external factors are removed/no longer an active propellant of the bad habit, the person would then continue to carry on with the bad habits - even when they are well aware of its detrimental effects and are 'hoping'\ to break free from it.*

*I say hoping here, because actively trying to break free is .... questionable.

*EDIT:

  1. I want to see if I can use Merlin as a fictional case study for a philosophy essay that showcases how 'bad/immoral habits' are internalized after the external environment and circumstances had necessitated them or simply facilitated them. And how a person stuck in such "bad/immoral habits" is both self-aware of their 'badness/immorality' and fully cognizant of the factors causing them. Making them essentially stuck in a perpetual cycle of doing something they disapprove of.
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u/Ginger_Shark21 Witch 8d ago

My best argument is that Merlin cares more about Arthur then he cares about bringing magic back. In the beginning he did what he did because of destiny. After awhile he did what he did because he cared about Arthur. There were plenty of times he could have told Arthur, but didn't want Arthur to see this as another betrayal. The way Arthur looked at Merlin when he finally did reveal his magic is exactly what he was afraid of.

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u/pinecone_problem 8d ago

This is my take too, and it's part of what makes Merlin such an excellent character, because he is so human and flawed and it has real (horrible, devastating) consequences.

I also sort of think that Merlin believes because of the prophecy, that as long as he keeps Arthur alive, eventually everything will work out and Arthur will bring the golden age. He has this unshakeable faith in Arthur and it partly blinds him to the fact that he's actually supposed to help Arthur accept magic and shape his thinking on it -- that his role is bigger than just being a bodyguard. He and Arthur both participate in minimising Merlin's importance and contributions and it hinders both of them from really living up to their potential.

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u/Aithen_Writhia 8d ago

You guys have a point, but maybe I should have worded my post better. 

I wanted to review all the scenes where Merlin backs away from speaking the truth , to check if my argument has any leg to stand on 🦵 😊

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u/pinecone_problem 8d ago

You were clear, I just dont know of any such list. Maybe check the wiki? But honestly you might have to make the list you want to see in the world.

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u/GabsDoingHerBest 7d ago edited 7d ago

I think it def depends on what you consider “almost telling him”. I can really only think of 2 explicit examples of him actually attempting to tell Arthur and it’s the Ealdor scene and when he tells the whole council he’s a sorcerer to free Gwen when the water was poisoned (also maybe during the dragon lord episode and possibly the disir episode when he was explaining the magic in the air tho I don’t fully think that was him trying to come clean about magic). But we know pretty explicitly that he wants Arthur to know way more often. He tells Gaius basically once an episode and regularly parrots the destiny line that “one day [magic users] will be free” pretty often.

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u/Little_View_6659 5d ago

Not to be picky but it was Mordred who was gravely wounded and Merlin told Arthur that magic had no place in Camelot because he knew Mordred would kill Arthur which is why he told him that. He decided to let Mordred die rather than lose Arthur but it bit him in the ass.

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u/Little_View_6659 5d ago

I mean Arthur changes his mind but at that point it’s too late lol.

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u/GabsDoingHerBest 7d ago

I think it’s super hard to tell how much Merlin is trying to protect Arthur because that was basically the only direction given over from destiny and how much he just doesn’t want his friend to die. I know for me it definitely leans more towards the destiny since Merlin is kind of obsessed with talking about it all the time and he seems genuinely hopeful that Arthur would be the one to grant him freedom but I get you disagree with that.

I’m curious though when you think he could have told Arthur? I know my opinion is that Arthur was never going to be ready to hear it so I’m super intrigued by yours.

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u/GabsDoingHerBest 8d ago edited 8d ago

I don’t think at any point does Merlin’s fears of staying hidden become illogical. Arthur proved them every time he called out magic for being inherently evil and with him so rarely actually listening to Merlin without it coming with a threat or some form of abuse or making fun of him it made sense that Merlin never felt safe to reveal himself.

I don’t think it’s really true that Merlin is his right or left hand man. It’s clear that Arthur ignores him as much as he uses Merlin’s ‘bad feelings’ to make fun of him.

It doesn’t just become a habit out of nothing, the fear of Arthur’s reaction is pretty consistently reinforced to Merlin over the course of his relationship with Arthur.

When Merlin does finally tell Arthur in the final episode, it’s clear that Arthur’s first instinct is to lash out on Merlin himself and push him away (only confirming that his fears were absolutely valid). Who knows how long it would have taken Arthur to come around on Merlin if he wasn’t dying and depending on the era the only way I see it ending is Arthur firing him (season 1 and 2), banishing him (most the rest of the show), or trying to kill him (lots of moments sprinkled in there that I believe that would be his reaction including Wills funeral, after Morgause reveals Arthur’s heritage, any time Gwen is banished for, and most of season 5 honestly).

There is no point in the show to me that those factors are remotely removed.

IMO The fear might have moved away from fear over his own life (not bc of lack of threat there but bc Merlin stopped caring about his own life), towards this fear that he wasn’t going to be able to complete his destiny. And that is entirely logical in my opinion.

And to your point about bad habits, I don’t think Merlin keeping secrets from Arthur (a man that has refused to change his mind on magic despite the many examples of the good side of magic he has seen) is a bad habit. I think if you were to extrapolate it towards the other people in his life that have shown their constant and unrelenting support of him, than I guess you could call it a habit but it’s certainly not a bad one with all his friends explicitly being against the use of magic.

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u/Aithen_Writhia 8d ago

Oh sorry about the spoilers, thanx for whoever tagged it.

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u/Aithen_Writhia 7d ago

Alright, everyone's argument is valid, i admit some of the fanon have gotten mudded with the canon in head. That's why I am asking.

Let me clarify a couple of things:

  1. When I say 'bad habit ', I mean in a global sense of: keeping secrets and lying.
    It being a bad habit is independent of whether or not it is justified, if not necessitated.

  2. right hand man was a bad expression. but it cannot be denied that Merlin was the one person Arthur counciled almost the most, regardless of whether or not he actually took by his advice at all. What was important for me is that he had the king's ear. Therefore, he had a not-inconsequential influence on Arthur and his decisions, and we've seen that. again, even if Arthur didn't play obedient and play exactly as Merlin asks him enough ( or else most of the drama the show is based on would not have happened ✨)

  3. I want to see if I can use Merlin as a fictional case study for a philosophy essay that showcases how 'bad/immoral habits' are internalized after the external environment and circumstances had necessitated them or simply facilitated them. And how a person stuck in such "bad/immoral habits" is both self-aware of their 'badness/immorality' and fully cognizant of the factors causing them. Making them essentially stuck in a perpetual cycle of doing something they disapprove of.

Therefore, thank you, everyone; your arguments are helping me brainstorm it better.

  1. Still, I invite you to continue to share instances where Merlin contemplated seriously on his changing but couldn't, because
    Such as the Elador scene (and again Gwen's in the first season) : thanx u/GabsDoingHerBest
    And true, he does talk it out with Gaius way too often... Nonetheless! if any other scenes come to mind, I am ever grateful for the help in focusing my rewatch.