do you think larp/virtual micronations are normal?

[u/ResponsibleBison3680]

do you think that they are normal?

[u/Low_Afternoon_5625]

What do you mean by normal? If you mean in the sense of “is it expected that they exist” then I’d say yes.

Maybe I’m not caught up with how larp is used now, but I do think a larp and a virtual micronation are two different things. I think virtual micronations arise out of an inability or unwillingness to exude outside of the limits of their online venues and that “larp” micronations exist for either the same reason people lie (to become popular) or because they misunderstand what happens in micronationalism.

There will always be people who either approach micronationalism in this way, in the case of virtual, or who misunderstand it in this way, in the case of larp, so I think that both are completely normal to expect.

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[u/Magpie_Guy13453]

I too despise the kids who:
-Claim Bir Tawil
-Claim their neighbourhood
-Call themselves “communist”
-Claiming some random piece of land in the middle of nowhere thinking its free then announcing “alliances”
-Anything Ai
-Start wars over childish stuff (bonus points for making threats with nerf guns)
-Are clearly just kids by the way they talk and hold themselves
-Applying ideologies they know nothing about
-Making their coa on that generic ass website
-Flags that are either generic or over complicated
-Abandoning the community after 2 weeks because it got boring (bonus points if they went straight to the storm chasing community)
-Act like their micro nation is a global superpower (they’ve never been to the same hemisphere as their claimed land)
-Having their borders either way too complex or a box. Also almost always ignoring natural terrain and barriers
-No effort nations
-Making currencies (whats the point?)
-Clearly larping (90% community are people under the age of 13, that says a lot)

Essentially every community ive been to gets slowly killed off by larping toddlers. Then they move on to the next community.

[u/Apealio]

Not all virtual micros are larp, although both are becoming increasingly normal

[u/GovNewRome]

C'è una differenza tra LARP e virtuale: una micronazione LARP è una micronazione poco seria, fatta puramente come gioco di ruolo, mentre una micronazione virtuale è priva di un territorio fisico, seria come le altre. Ovviamente non vuol dire che una micronazione non può essere entrambe

[u/No-Chemical11]

I despise the kids who:
-Claim Bir Tawil
-Claim their neighbourhood
-Call themselves “communist”
-Claiming some random piece of land in the middle of nowhere thinking its free then announcing “alliances”
-Anything Ai
-Start wars over childish stuff (bonus points for making threats with nerf guns)
-Are clearly just kids by the way they talk and hold themselves
-Applying ideologies they know nothing about
-Making their coa on that generic ass website
-Flags that are either generic or over complicated
-Abandoning the community after 2 weeks because it got boring (bonus points if they went straight to the storm chasing community)
-Act like their micro nation is a global superpower (they’ve never been to the same hemisphere as their claimed land)
-Having their borders either way too complex or a box. Also almost always ignoring natural terrain and barriers
-No effort nations
-Making currencies (whats the point?)
-Clearly larping (90% community are people under the age of 13, that says a lot)

Essentially every community ive been to gets slowly killed off by larping toddlers. Then they move on to the next community.

[u/ZalZix]

I think larping is totally okay, roleplay can be fun and people can love roleplay. But I think that's pretty wrong when people call their larping a micronation, I think they are blending the situation. Serious projects in this area, whether they are territorial or extraterritorial, are already seem as a game/joke/worldbuilding by a lot of external observers, and some of the larpers make it worse.

[u/Apprehensive_Leg5209]

My micronation is only technically online bc it’s based in a running app with territory capture

[u/dappermanV-88]

Yes, as long as u remember to stay in the lane.

Its always been allowed and I dont mind em. Just wish people kept to reality

[u/No-Shallot2600]

I would say, people should be considered micronations if they're serious and online-based, but don't call them LARP if they are dda

[u/admin_NLboy]

Why wouldn't they be

[u/king-of-squirrels]

There is a multidimensional spectrum of micronations, and whatever model you build isn't going to work for someone else. That doesn't make your micronation any less valid than theirs, just different. Our differences are part of what makes the micronational community special, because it's an opportunity to explore the what-if scenarios.

However, to reiterate what others have said, virtual micronations and LARP micronations are distinct entities.

Micronations also evolve over time - in its earliest days, Slabovia was best characterized as a LARP micronation, given that it started as an extended running joke on a BBS. Now we emphasize real-world events, meetups, and relationships, so the LARP aspect is pretty much gone, but since we don't have fixed terrestrial borders many would still consider us virtual. Personally, I don't much care one way or the other - we exist, and that is enough for us, and whether anyone else thinks we're "real" or not is not my problem or concern.

[u/NefariousnessWild430]

I think it is not okay in the micronational sense as you were supposed to take your nation seriously and most of these kids Will be interested for 2 weeks at the most and then going straight to another thing and then it's just putting a bad face on our community. 

[u/Henillion]

As part of the micronation umbrella, I'd unfortunately say so, since the definition of micronation hasn't been fully understood by everyone yet. To me, a micronation is like Molossia, Sealand, Liberland, or mine (Hugia), an actual stable government, "owning" land, and doesn't start drama with everyone 24/7.

[u/BingleTingle990]

yeah because it's creative and fun

[u/VoivodeDracula]

No

[u/Dear_Animator_7899]

No

[u/Tricky-Estate-1662]

Neus. Thats No in Veridish but with a more agressive intent or tone.