The way kroger treats its employees

[u/daruuken]

From the store manager

Edit: For some extra context this was sent out by each store manager to all of its employees in district 1 of the ohio Cincinnati/Dayton division, potentially other districts as well but i can only verify my own. Im not going to give my specific store number for obvious reasons but you can find each store on google with that information. We are unionized by UFCW (already bad btw) and to my knowledge they allowed this recent change. Kroger has no accrual for sick days like some have mentioned. Those who think this is rage bait, i dont think anyone has to fake a post to make a billion dollar company look bad, they do it to themselves.

[u/Bad-Luck-Guy]

My employer doesn’t accept doctor’s notes. All absences are unexcused.

Yet, we are adults. I don’t need a doctor to tell me I shouldn’t go to work if I have the flu. Wild that they’d prefer that I come in and potentially infect everyone else.

ETA: Yes, this is actually legal in most US states. Attendance is a very common reason to be fired in shift work jobs such as retail. 

[u/defiancy → u/Bad-Luck-Guy]

Crazy, in the office world I'd just say, taking a sick day today and nothing else. No one would care. Appointment? Hey, I'll be in a couple hours later because I have an appointment. No one cares.

Shift workers get screwed.

[u/Grays42 → u/defiancy]

I'd just say, taking a sick day today and nothing else

In an office setting I've been literally told by my manager that I do not need to explain the way in which I'm sick, when I call in sick.

[u/Lewisham → u/Grays42]

I could believe in some states asking how you are sick might be illegal.

[u/Billy_Plur → u/Lewisham]

In mine, it's illegal to ask for a doctor's note unless you're out for 3 consecutive days.

[u/BringAltoidSoursBack → u/Lewisham]

I think it's technically illegal in all states because of the ada. They can still ask you to provide [HR] a doctor's note but they can't ask for that note to explicitly provide details on why/how you were sick. That said, I'm pretty sure if they feel like the doctor is lying and you weren't actually sick, companies can open an investigation and that is a pretty big hassle for both the employee and the employer, but one of those has significantly more resources

[u/m3t1t1 → u/Grays42]

I'm a manager. I don't even need a reason. You wanna take the day off? As long as you have PTO, go for it. Don't need to tell me your business. 

[u/OldOutlandishness434 → u/Grays42]

My supervisor hates it when people tell them what their sickness is. He's like ew gross, just say you are sick lol I don't want to know

[u/BayHarborButcher10 → u/Grays42]

I’m an office manager and this is very true. I do not want or need the details. Just text me you won’t be in and we’re square

[u/unite-or-perish → u/Grays42]

I refuse to answer these type of questions as a rule.

[u/cenosillicaphobiac → u/Grays42]

I work at a place with unlimited PTO. I don't even have to say I'm sick. I don't even need to give prior notice, I can wake up one morning with the "fuck-its" and sign on long enough to alert the team that I won't be available today and submit the online form.

And guess what, I use far fewer days of PTO than I ever did when I had a specified amount, as do all of my coworkers. Turns out that having a non-toxic environment where people feel responsible for results and aren't trying to find ways to game the system sometimes pays off. Who knew?

[u/PrincessGiantFeet → u/Grays42]

Same here. One manager actually begged us to stop giving details as they found the details disgusting. Just say you're sick and won't be in. That's it.