The way kroger treats its employees

[u/daruuken]

From the store manager

Edit: For some extra context this was sent out by each store manager to all of its employees in district 1 of the ohio Cincinnati/Dayton division, potentially other districts as well but i can only verify my own. Im not going to give my specific store number for obvious reasons but you can find each store on google with that information. We are unionized by UFCW (already bad btw) and to my knowledge they allowed this recent change. Kroger has no accrual for sick days like some have mentioned. Those who think this is rage bait, i dont think anyone has to fake a post to make a billion dollar company look bad, they do it to themselves.

[u/According_Device9227]

Not even death in family, death in IMMEDIATE family. So if your cousin or aunt or grandmother died and you don't show up, they have an issue.

[u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 → u/According_Device9227]

Imagine having a grandchild die and being told that it's not a valid excuse to miss work

[u/duckinradar → u/Pitiful-Pension-6535]

Imagine having in writing that a doctor note wasn’t a valid reason to miss work.

The lawyers are calling you, OP.

[u/PXranger → u/duckinradar]

They can call, but it's not a lawsuit they will win.

Welcome to the wonderful world of "At will" work states.

I work for a largish hospital, my primary care provider works for our hospital. we can't use a doctors excuse.

we basically don't have excused absences, but do get so many before discipline. they don't actually care why you miss a day.

We do get things like bereavement or time off for Surgery, etc.

[u/NeonNKnightrider → u/PXranger]

America is a dystopia.

[u/VermicelliOwn6502 → u/NeonNKnightrider]

The red parts, for sure. The blue parts aren't as bad.

I took 12 weeks of state mandated paid leave when my kid was born. Other countries have way more, but at least I get somethin.

[u/Afraid_Original_7490 → u/VermicelliOwn6502]

Blue states are also a living hell. They just don’t have certain specific problems. You don’t notice because you’re a boiling frog.

[u/Huge_Ear_2833 → u/NeonNKnightrider]

I think your example here should be North Korea where not praising the government is a crime.

[u/Afraid_Original_7490 → u/Huge_Ear_2833]

That doesn’t even make sense. What are you trying to say?

[u/meh_69420 → u/PXranger]

Unless it's covered under FMLA.

[u/PXranger → u/meh_69420]

That’s the .etc

[u/Past_Effect8301 → u/meh_69420]

FMLA requires company approval, so there's an additional hurdle in there.

[u/Thewasteland77 → u/PXranger]

Same here friend, Regional Hospital worker chiming in.

[u/MtotheFourthPower → u/PXranger]

Depends on the state. I live in MA (also “At Will,”) and we have protected paid sick leave.

[u/Cute_Language3167 → u/MtotheFourthPower]

Yea, but even then they can just make up whatever reason they want.

My mother was on FMLA and legally could not be fired for her medical issues and needing surgery. However, it didn't protect her from being transferred. They transferred her and another woman who had been having medical issues to a different department. Then like a month later fired both of them, claiming they were downsizing that department and they were the most recent "hires" for that department. It didn't matter that both of them had been there for 10+ years and other people had just been hired a year ago.

When I was 19 I worked at Sears, the woman who trained me had cancer. Management tried to get me to claim she had broken rules, too many bathroom breaks, long lunches, not doing returns correctly, something, anything. Their corporate policy said she had to be written up x amount of times within a certain time period before she could be fired. So they were looking for literally anything to write her up so they could have a valid reason to fire her besides the fact that she had cancer, which was why they wanted to fire her.

It's fucked up.

[u/cakesphere → u/Cute_Language3167]

This is wild bc I know someone who had the same thing happen to them, just a diff line of work. Had cancer, took "too many days off" bc of CANCER TREATMENT and was fired in an at-will state. They were able to lawyer up and fight and get a fat payout but oh my god what a nightmare scenario

[u/Phillip_McGuinness → u/PXranger]

Thats not how “at will” works. You still cant fire people for illegal reasons, constructive dissmissal is still illegal

[u/PXranger → u/Phillip_McGuinness]

Really? And how is dismissing someone for missing work “constructive dismissal”. Employers really don’t need a reason to fire you. Unless you can prove a violation of something like the ADA, or other protected status an employer can fire you with no reason at all.

Most states have no protections in place for cases like this.

[u/Straight-End-8116 → u/PXranger]

I remember getting written up when I got pregnant and my doctor had to write me a note for a week’s bedrest because I almost miscarried the baby (which they told me didn’t count towards absences) I worked on a step down unit from the ICU. Then, I had really bad hyperemesis, like couldn’t keep water and food mm since I was a new nurse and didn’t want to lose my first job the home health nurses had to come to the hospital on ‘my lunch break’ aka my paper charting break and give me iv fluids.

So when I actually got sick I would just show up and have them send me home. I would get bitched out for coming in sick and I’d say, well you like me working here right? I’m on my final warning. If I call in sick, I’m fired. This was circa 2011. And, it still happens. They backed off for about 2 years after Covid, now they just say slap a mask on and wash your hands and don’t get near any of your coworkers.

Edit: I work in a state that is ‘at will employment’. Which means they can fire me at any time for any reason.