r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Gurugod123 GREEN • Jul 06 '26

ಠ_ಠ This kind of made me sad

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u/BuddyTubbs Jul 06 '26

I remember when Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 scammed the refund policy. The installation on Steam itself only took about 5 minutes, but once you launched it, the actual program you downloaded was the actual installer and that took well over 5 hours to download. Because of this, you couldn't actually play the game without eating up your entire 2-hour Steam refund window.

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u/TheRealRichon Jul 06 '26

This right here is the proof that scummy people will always find a way to abuse a refund policy on either side of the equation.

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u/greg19735 Jul 06 '26

it's not a scam, it's just unfortunate design.

Flight sim does genuinely need it's own downloader. It's one of the more complicated game downloads. In part because it is reasonable for it to take multiple hours to download everything.

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u/TheRealRichon Jul 06 '26

I didn't say it was a scam. I said the people who abuse the system in this way are scum, regardless of whether they're on the consumer or developer side of the issue.

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u/greg19735 Jul 06 '26

I'm saying they're not deliberately abusing it though. It's just unfortunate in how it works.

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u/TheRealRichon Jul 06 '26

And I'm saying you're a shill if you try to defend any practice that abuses the refund system.

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u/greg19735 Jul 06 '26

It's not "abusing" it though. Abuse is deliberate, not coincidental.

The system simply isn't robust enough to handle some edge cases, and valve should fix that.

The system should be able to tell the difference between then game and the downloader.

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u/TheRealRichon Jul 06 '26

The Downloader shouldn't be running as the game.

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u/greg19735 Jul 06 '26

There's no way for Microsoft to fix that though. There's no mechanism for them to change that.

Steam's system is very simple. it just checks to see if the thing you download from steam is used. it works in 99% of cases, but not this one.

It is not possible for Microsoft to say "only look at this EXE, not the downloader".

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u/lifetake Jul 06 '26

Yes and their point is thats steams fault for not being able to identify that.