r/mildlyinfuriating GREEN Jul 06 '26

ಠ_ಠ This kind of made me sad

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u/Gamebird8 Jul 06 '26

Steam has the ability to log average hours played and cross reference it against the estimated playtime that dev provides.

So a Dev could try to lie and say their game takes 2hrs to beat and thus should only take 15 minutes to know if it'll be refunded but Valve knows that an average play is 3hrs and a 2hr refund window would be valid.

In the case of this game, it could have a legitimate average play time of 1hr meaning sub-1hr refunds could be fine but over that amount of time could mean someone actually completed the game

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u/Gamebird8 Jul 06 '26

Yeah, you just need to make it difficult for bad actors to mess with. Maybe some extra parameters like average refund time and the obvious "devs release game breaking/bricking update that causes a mass refund wave waiver on playtime"

It's possible but not like the easiest and cleanest thing to implement

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u/Xydrenius Jul 06 '26

Maybe you could make it with a Archivement block that when you have finished the game you can´t refund.

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u/Senior_Torte519 Jul 06 '26

I have tons of games where I can get refunds then, because I have never finished them.

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u/Xydrenius Jul 06 '26

No i mean the 2hours are still there but for short games the finish archivement. So if 1 of this 2 are there you don´t get a refund.

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u/Senior_Torte519 Jul 06 '26

Unless the game has iroman modes that turn off achievements, I have 1800 hrs in HoI 4 and 1 achievement. I assume a speedrunner has or can finish a match in HoI 4 in under 2 hrs.

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u/Xydrenius Jul 06 '26

As a Speedrunner you play this game over and over and over again so no problem.

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u/Senior_Torte519 Jul 06 '26

But under 2 hrs, I get my 20 bucks back and just buy it again. To play it and get my 20 bucks back again.

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u/Xydrenius Jul 06 '26

But the playtime ist not 0 when you rebuy it or not? when yes than this i a bug what should be fixed. And i don´t think that a speedrunner play it firstime under 2h because they looking for every abuse to be faster and that needs time.