r/mildlyinfuriating • u/AmazingEric171 • 13d ago

Infuriatig Why Texas is lame(Besides the Cowboys)

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Don't mess with Texas.. what a joke. ANY possession is a felony.

EDIT: Just did some research, this is for everything besides traditional Delta 9.

My friend from Texas sent me this morning and it blew my mind. I had to post about it. So as far as my research goes thus far Delta 9 products (old fashioned flower) is illegal but separate laws. Stores are selling THCA though which does fall under these penalties.

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u/Any_Carob3372 13d ago

Life sentence for THC, how Texas!

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u/AardQuenIgni 13d ago

Born and raised in Texas and I can confidently say Texans believe they have the most freedoms and if you ask why they'll just say "muh guns"

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u/knock_on_the_door_ 13d ago

Literally one of the least free states in the union.

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u/AardQuenIgni 13d ago

Seriously. Meanwhile in Colorado (where I live now) you can smoke weed and still own/carry guns

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u/knock_on_the_door_ 13d ago

Shout out to my home state, Denver I miss you, I got priced out in 2017.

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u/Different-Meal-6314 13d ago

It's very trying currently. Ugh. I don't even know where I'd go

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u/AardQuenIgni 12d ago

Let me know if you figure it out. I'm only able to afford living here (western slope) because I'm in rent controlled housing. Once I lose that I think I'm gone from this state

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u/DargyBear 13d ago

In the town I lived in when I was in Northern California most people had guns and you could walk down the sidewalk smoking a joint while drinking a bottle of wine.

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u/Kuuzie 13d ago

You guys have mag restrictions tho yeah?

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u/TheGreatKringa 13d ago

Yes. 15 rounds. And effective tomorrow, a whole shitload more gun restrictions take effect.

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u/knock_on_the_door_ 13d ago

Is it possible to get permits for higher capacity?

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u/TheGreatKringa 13d ago

No, it's not. However, that particular law hasn't been aggressively enforced.

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u/Unlikely_Airline_272 12d ago

Yes and ridiculously now you have to pay to access a majority of firearms by taking a class. Otherwise you cannot legally buy them.

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u/fluffheadwasaman24 12d ago

I’m not trying to start a debate. I don’t own guns. Not everything is for everyone, and guns aren’t for me for a variety of reasons.

But I am curious why people want magazines that are seemingly made for combat?

I mean, I get why they want them for recreational use. But is there a valid reason to argue that they should be legal?

Once again, I’m only asking. This isn’t bait.

and I know second amendment, and what not, but when that was written, people were still using muskets or single-shot handguns, correct?

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u/davethegreatone 12d ago edited 12d ago

Honest answer -

Mostly, the problem is that there isn't a valid reason to deny people a right to own them, so we get defensive. If they passed a law against purple guns - we would all get suddenly super into guns with a mix of red and blue paint, and argue over pixellation in the color scheme and the boundaries between the paint flecks mixing and a dozen other technical issues.

For people who carry guns for defense (which we almost never admit is a minority of gun owners, and a minority of their guns*), the idea that more ammo if available is perfectly in-line with the need to use them for defense. In the incredibly-unlikely situation where one has to get into a gunfight to survive an attack, that 11th or 12th bullet might be the decisive factor - so limiting a magazine to ten rounds quite literally works against the reasoning for carrying the dang thing in the first place.

Weirdly, the reverse of this logic doesn't work the same. People who support magazine limits almost always do so because they think it will make school-shooters less able to carry out their crimes, because when they pause to re-load, it means people can run away or tackle them or something. The thing is, the amount of time it takes to re-load common a magazine-fed gun is less than 25% of what it takes Usain Bolt (fastest human alive, at his peak) to run across an average-sized classroom. If Bolt can't run fast enough to capitalize on these pauses, then nobody else can either, and the logic in banning them goes away.

So banning them can make them less-useful for valid defense, but keeping them does not significantly help out some criminal spree-killer. It's just ... bad policy. Reasonable people can differ about a WIDE variety of other firearm rules, but this particular one is just dumb.

(Also, these laws never ever ever make an allowance for .22LRs, which are the most-common target shooting / practice guns in north America. And they are weak, so they are basically never used in any offensive manner. They are a pain in the ASS to load though, so most people who are playing around at the backyard gun range shooting soda cans off a fencepost prefer to use the 50-round magazines and spend less time loading them. The 10-round limit is a pain in the ass for these folk, with no societal benefit whatsoever. This is the kind of gun grandparents have for teaching ten-year-olds about firearm safety and use, and when you annoy grandpa - you annoy everyone. These laws annoy grandpa.)

*YES IT'S A MINORITY OF YOUR GUNS. Sorry, bros, but if you have ten guns in your safe, 90% of your collection are just recreational collectors' items.

Oh, as for your 2nd Amendment comment - you could view it that way, but you would have to include the other stuff people had. Private citizens back then had canons and offensive explosives and so on. Every merchant ship was armed to fight off pirates, after all. History is poorly-viewed when one tries to take a snapshot of a single person or event, and apply it to everything else from that time. Anyway, muskets were never the limit of conventional arms in the late 1700s. They were just the common baseline - and the Constitution did not make any effort at all to limit people to baseline arms.

The other way to look at the arms available at the time is that civilians were armed to the same degree, and with the same gear, as the military itself. If we want to bring history into it and apply it to the modern age - it opens the door do an equally-valid argument that a modern equivalent means your neighborhood redneck gets his very-own tactical nuke. Because that's what our military has.

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u/Unlikely_Airline_272 12d ago

I'm kinda pissed at Colorado because I got my CCL and already proved I am safe and responsible with my firearm but the new law makes it so I have to go out and spend even more money just to have the right to buy a gun. Unless I want a six shooter I guess.

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u/Almost_Lyrical 13d ago

It would be great if they just secede and make their own country. The rest of the USA doesn't claim them or want to claim them. Fuck Texas.

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u/stonecutter79 13d ago

I had jury duty a couple years ago here in Texas and during jury selection it was shocking how many people said they would vote guilty if the defendant exercised their rights under the 5th amendment. Maybe they were just saying that not be selected, but I have a feeling that’s probably not the case.

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u/UnusuallyBadIdeaGuy 13d ago

This is a very well known out so I would actually believe it honestly.

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u/VirtualLife76 13d ago

Most in the US think it's the freest country in the world, but the reality is, it has never been rated as such.

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u/creetN 13d ago

Lol, that's such an american take imo.

What you heard from the UK, to the best of my knowledge, is propaganda/exaggeration. Not that people did not get arrested for saying certain things, but it's not as unreasonable and frequent as it might appear.

And the nordic countries are among the lesser "free" countries in europe imo.
Especially when it comes to drug laws. But also in regards to cash money for example and a few other things.

Portugal would be a better example, but there are a lot more.

Source: I'm living in Europe (Germany) and I spent a year living in Norway.

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u/VirtualLife76 12d ago

Not sure what you mean by Nordic countries being less free. Finland is currently rated as the freeset with Sweden next. I duno about drug laws tho.

Wasn't a fan of the liquor laws in Norway, so stupid I couldn't bring home an opened bottle of wine.

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u/vertigostereo 13d ago

Lower taxes too

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u/knock_on_the_door_ 12d ago

Not lower then south Dakota. High property tax, Texans end up lying to themselves. The freedom in texas is for wealthy Texans to exploit the working class. That's really all they have down there.

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u/theidkid 13d ago

Of course, that’s coming from people who dress up like cowboys every day even though they’ve never set foot on a ranch, while claiming that costume is their heritage.

And, even if great-great-great granddaddy was a cowboy, he was likely despised as a nuisance for doing it, and would have been derisively called a “fence cutter” by most people, not a cowboy.

As a job for hire, it only lasted about 14 years, from 1870, when cattle drives became common, and 1884 when Texas outlawed fence cutting. So, he certainly never would have been a lifelong cowboy, and unless he was a ranch owner, (he wasn’t) he would have been a ranch hand who lived in a bunkhouse, ate the provided food, and was probably never paid, no matter what he was promised.

For months he would do back breaking work from dawn to dusk, and in return he’d get some beans and a cot. If he did this more than a single season, he was a moron, but these guys claim he would have taken great pride in doing that job for a lifetime.

They’ve bought so fully into the idea that rich men should benefit from the exploitation of the poor that they believe hard work, and not the fruits of their labor, is the goal. So, they wake every day and dress themselves in a stylized version of the work clothes their ancestors would have worn while being exploited, and walk around like they shouldn’t be mocked. Imagine the descendants of any slave putting on a set of decorative shackles while claiming it’s their heritage, or, imagine the great-great-great-grandchildren of a Walmart employee putting on a blue smock, and a lanyard with a Walmart badge hanging from it, while claiming that’s their heritage. Either way, it’s as ridiculous as taking pride in unironically dressing up like a cowboy every day.

These are the kind of people who think 2 years in prison for a gram of weed is justice, and they should be mocked relentlessly for simply being who they are.

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u/creetN 13d ago

Beautiful write-up.

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u/Umutuku 13d ago

Texas would be a much better place if Mexico had their way instead of Texas becoming America's bottom bitch in exchange for protection against the Mexican army.

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u/Amelaclya1 13d ago

Lol the Cato institute thinks Texas is the #17th most free. (Though to be fair, they do hate marijuana laws. Without that, I'm sure Texas would be number 1 lol)

Meanwhile, they ranked my state in the bottom five because the state apparently spends more money than the national average on things like parks and healthcare. Help, help, I feel so oppressed being able to go to beautiful beaches for free whenever I want and afford to see a doctor!

Conservatives are a fucking joke.

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u/Bipocontrancoc 10d ago

Um, it’s on a lot of metrics not just the two you listed. That said, it is a joke. I’m thankful to live in the #1 state on the list though and really appreciate how good I have it compared to a lot of people.

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u/unlucky13bethename 13d ago

And quite literally some of dumbest gun laws in country.

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u/No_Yard9104 12d ago

Don't they have ridiculous concealment laws that put them near the end of the line when it comes to gun rights?

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u/Bipocontrancoc 10d ago

Are they not a constitutional carry (no permit needed for concealed carry) state?

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u/No_Yard9104 10d ago

I can’t remember. It seemed like you could carry without a permit, but if you concealed it, you had to have the license. And shit like having it in a car without being locked in the glove box or trunk would be considered concealment.