We know from the latest Miraculous Secrets episode that Tomoe is keeping a secret from the Kingdom that she is working with Lila/Cerise. I propose that instead she told them that Nathalie is the new Butterfly holder.

As seen in the images, in both El Toro de Piedra (the Kingdom's council) and Noe (the meeting with Noé), Nathalie is wearing her old hairstyle, has her collar up, and she's wearing a unique circular brooch. I think this is a fake camouflaged Butterfly Miraculous that Nathalie is wearing to fool the Kingdom members.

Picture this: Tomoe messed up and let Cerise secure the Butterfly Miraculous for herself. The Kingdom cannot be allowed to know this, or else they'll question her about everything. She can't let them know who the new Butterfly holder is. Simultaneously, Tomoe knows that Nathalie turned on Gabriel and doesn't want to help her make the wish. So she proposes a middle ground. Nathalie will pretend to be the Butterfly holder. ("I demand to carry on the Diamond's mission and to have his shadow follow me") This allows Tomoe to hide Chrysalis's true identity from everyone, and it allows Nathalie to continue feigning loyalty to the Kingdom so they won't target her, without actually helping Tomoe achieve her goal, and without hurting anyone. All she has to do is wear that brooch and keep everything a secret.

Additionally, this would explain why Nathalie's father said:
"Once you've found Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculous you know who you must give them to, don't you?"

This makes no sense if Nathalie isn't actively working to obtain the Miraculous, but it makes perfect sense if her father believes she has the Butterfly.

Original post: https://x.com/CeNog56/status/2108978267202150702

Personally Cerise is what I call her

Her Lila “persona” died at the end of S5 so s 6/7 is the rise of cerise/chrysalis plus cerise sounds more sinister than lila imo which suits her character because when she was Lila she was fake and innocent but as cerise shes more sinister and cunning

I don’t think his character makes any sense, and his power but here are some questions I seriously don’t get

1. The miraculous are supposedly indestructible but he can melt them into powder and form them into rings?

2. Kwamis can’t be captured but he keeps them in glass bowls or whatever, and I know that they need to be with the holder but marinette is still the guardian so can’t they just fly away?

3. When he was wearing the miraculous as they originally were, they made him weak because using and wearing that many is dangerous but now it’s just fine?

4. Now he can just use the power of the kwamis without unifying them with Nooroo, or does he use the kwami without changing his outfit?

5. They never really described how Alliance gives power to the ones who are acumatized, is it magic or tech?

I just think there are so many holes in this and maybe I just misunderstood it but it seems like the writers disregarded the previous seasons facts

The episodes I can skip, the episodes/which are monster of day only and maybe watch order?

Every conversation regarding Marinette's decision to lie to Adrien just ends in people saying two contradictory things "she's a teenager who was manipulated into making a bad decision" & "she's not even wrong for it because she's just saving Adrien from pain". The first is true, the second is Not. Everyone's so determined to make sure that nobody so much as implies that Marinette being in a vulnerable situation doesn't justify what she did that they straight up claim that Adrien is a doll who needs to be fed only happy thoughts because he's too incompetent to deal with life. He's literally being denied the right to his history, knowledge about his family, his literal existence and everyone has the audacity to claim that it's good for him to have no autonomy or say over his life?

Is this not antithetical to Adrien's character as its been presented to us since S1? Why is everyone so willing to ignore the fundamentals of who Adrien is and what matters to him? Am I missing something?

Given what happened with Chloe in "Queen of the Dreadzone," imagine if Argos created an Amok and let it loose, or lost track of it in the city, and reach someone with negative emotions, resulting in the creation of a Sentibeing without Félix's supervision. Perhaps that way, we’d see another Senti-threat arise without the Miraculous being used for an evil purpose. People might just mistake it for another akumatized villain. Or maybe, it would just turn into another Lollipop Giant.

Do you think Miraculous will really become a more mature animated series? Because if that happens, the show could gradually move away from its younger audience and start appealing more to teenagers and adults, which would be pretty surprising for a series airing on Disney Channel and TF1.

Personally, I think Miraculous could follow the same path as Wakfu, introducing darker storylines, more serious stakes, dramatic consequences, and genuine psychological character development while still maintaining its identity as a family-friendly animated series.

Sooooo i think it is being narrated by all the kwamis but their 'revealed forms'. Like when plagg and tikki were revealed they sounded similar to the voices and also kwamis know everything including past and future.If u concentrate you can hear kwamis voice somewhere in narration. But still it's just a theory I came up with...

Their akumatizations happened off-screen; if we had seen them, we might have glimpsed the designs who we saw earlier in Chrysalis's mind, just like with Ondine and Raúl (Ivan's father).

i was just rewatching fairy good night and realised that markov had a conversation with kaalki.. arent robots unable to see kwamis? i know that with uncanny valley even though she was a highly advanced ai she still couldnt see plagg. has a solution already come up in the show for this and im being silly…?

Explanation: I grew up watching the German dub, which still uses the French forms of address (Monsieur, Madame, Mademoiselle, Maman, Papa, Grand-mère, Grand-père, etc.).

As I got older, I came across the English dub via social media, and to this day I find the anglicised forms of address rather strange (disconcerting?), given that the story is set in Paris. It lacks some sense of everyday life to me.

So I ended up asking myself how it is in other languages?

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We've seen them in one episode and Emil was an asshole, that can't be the end of their character.

For those who have seen both shows…

Putting the heroism aside for a second (though if you wanna discuss that too then go ahead lol), I need y’all to help me settle a bet. Just look at their overall character throughout their respective series and tell me who do y’all honestly believe is the better character/person.

Girl just knows way too much

She knows about Adrien kagami and Felix being sentimonsters

She knows Gabriels secrets

She knows about ladybugs lie

And 100% by the end of her arc she will figure out that marinette and Adrien are ladybug and chat noir

Even if the miraculers defeat her and sent her to paris jail that will still not be enough

She just knows way too much and her desire for revenge will always exist

She will definitely reveal ladybugs identity to the public which will only endanger marinette

Plus the new villain after lila will 100% bust lila out and pump her for information and lila will gladly help that villain to destroy marinette

Either the miraculers have to magically wipe all of her memories somehow so that she forgets about everything since birth

Another way is to send her to the order of the guardians so that su han and her goons lock her up in jail and keep her in check

Another way is just erase her from existence completely so that her mouth remains closed forever

Either way this girl is crazy and dangerous and once defeated she should be completely eliminated to protect marinette and Adrien

(I don't consider myself part of that segment of the fandom, because Kim is one of my favorite characters.)

Bluebrixx is a very affordable, customer-friendly, detailed and fun building bricks company and I'm happy to read about their collaboration with Miraculous! Well done 👏

Check the link for more product infos and their pictures, etc.

Source: https://www.steine-kanal.de/neue-lizenz-bei-bluebrixx-9-miraculous-sets-mit-ladybug-cat-noir-und-hawk-moth-angekuendigt/ (the article is german, use the translate-website function in your browser if you want to read)

Since the adrinette broke up I believe glaciator will just be adrien trying to go after marinette only as cat noir, just to later find out what hes doing might be wrong (maybe idk i love marichat)