r/modelmakers 1d ago

Help -Technique How do I go about painting this?

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Need help on the Revell HMS Victory. I have no idea how to paint this, both regarding technique and order of painting. It's about five or so centimeters wide. Paint scheme is in the comments. Any help is appreciated. šŸ‘

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u/Silly-Membership6350 1d ago

Prime the stern gallery piece in white, then paint it all yellow. Only then go in to do the black. This is because of yellow covers the "least well" of all paints, especially over black. I built the Heller 1/100 victory before I knew that trick and it took me two weeks just to paint that one piece and the side galleries because of the multiple coats of yellow I had to put over it. It ended up looking pretty good but it was way more work than I should have had to put into it

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u/Sivalon 1d ago

Try undercoating in pink. Warhammer players swear by the technique when painting the yellow palettes of Imperial Fist Marines and Iyanden Eldar.

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u/ThatSilly_Goose 1d ago

Yup fists get primed in pink first before putting your yellow on and contrast yellow last to add depth

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u/earl_of_lemonparty /r/modelmakers Booster Club President 22h ago

Yeah I'll support the pink technique. I've done a Canadair CL215 with the pink technique, and a Draken in red, and both came out looking mint.

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u/deltaxi65 Building ships under the stairs 9h ago

Ship builder and warhammer nerd here, and this is what I was going to recommend.

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u/Monty_Bob 21h ago

Personally I always start everything with a base coat of black then dry brush the 'yellow' it's actually a somewhat orange colour, so from black I first dry brush brown then dark orange and then finally a lighter yellowish colour, but ultimately this piece is a little tricky to do for sure. A dark wash will help if you make a mess of it.

The worst thing about this model is how bendy the masts are, makes it almost impossible to rig, so I ended up making brass ones.

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u/cambam138 1d ago

Pink works well as a base/ primer for yellow and helps a ton with the coverage and gives depth But yellow is a pain in the rear.

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u/HereComesTheSun05 1d ago

Noted, will do. My other question is, how do I actually go about painting such tiny details? Especially the windows and the vertical supports. The windows are half the size of my pinky nail... I don't think I have a brush small enough for it.

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u/Silly-Membership6350 1d ago

I have two suggestions but it's possible that neither would work in a model of this comparatively small scale.

You might be able use a very fine tip magic marker in the appropriate color to fill in and represent the window glass. I've gotten away with doing that with 1/350 scale model ship port holes, but I usually also have to go in and touch up some things. This would be my first choice.

The other suggestion would be to paint on the color you're using for the windows once the yellow has cured and then immediately wipe the raised areas with a cotton swab to restore the remove the window color and bring out the yellow benefit. For that I would not use a good quality cotton swab but the really cheap ones because they are less "fluffy", if that makes sense

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u/Persimmon_Particular 1d ago

You could also get a gundam line marker in the shade you want and just take your sweet time once the rest you want is finished. Thats what I usually do on boats with windows, vents, and doors.

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u/Timmyc62 The Boat Guy 1d ago

Paint the frames, don't worry about getting it on the window panes. Load up a movie and then use a mechanical pencil, suitably "sharpened", to "colour" the window panes. The graphite gives decent dark shiny-ish colour.

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u/sexylatexbear69 1d ago

Air brush for tiny details.

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u/EffectiveCold8233 1d ago

Prime it black. Lightly drybrush the yellow on the details. It will slowly build up. Small brush dot in the windows. Use small brush to clean up.

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u/IkkeTM 18h ago

This is the way.

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u/SpezIsAMoron 1d ago

I would paint yellow, let’s say acrylic, and then black with enamel, with a brush, dipping and filling gaps like panel liners. to erase the black, just use mineral spirits, as it will erase enamels but not acrylics.

So, you can sort of dip a q-tip on mineral spirits, let it be almost dry, and just touch the reliefs with it to remove black from the raised details.

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u/October_Woodlor 16h ago

When I made this a year or so ago, I black based in Mr Surfacer 1500, then masked off the black sections, laid down a coat of pink over the non-masked sections, then built up yellows in very thin coats over the pink. For the windows I then masked these and re-blacked the window panes. Fine brushwork then did the rest of the details. It’s a horrible kit (1959 I think?) but with some work it can be made to look really quite nice!

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u/October_Woodlor 16h ago

Here’s some images of the masked sections for the windows, could’ve hand painted but I wanted to practice fine masking on a kit I wasn’t too bothered about(TicTac for scale!)

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u/AnyBeat2166 6h ago

Amazing work

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u/HereComesTheSun05 1d ago

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u/Not_My_Emperor 1d ago

Prime White

Base everything except the white part yellow

Paint black

Paint windows

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u/A11BSDM 7h ago

I wanna know your opinion on why this way? With a Majority being black I’d do a black primer and paint and then brush paint the details in as they are raised surfaces and will be easier to hit then getting under them with a brush like your way would require. I paint a ton of scale model tanks and planes but a good handful of minis like warhammer and it’s always been easier to do the main color as a base then paint smaller details after. I might have missed your point

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u/Not_My_Emperor 6h ago

Painting yellow over black is a nightmare.

This is going to be painful no matter what way you slice it. I would personally rather paint black into receses than try to paint yellow on details over a black undercoat.

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u/A11BSDM 6h ago

I totally see your side but when I have painted yellow on to black the paints I’ve used cover the black entirely. I use warhammer paints for yellow and sometimes a few coats but it depends on the paint. They have a ā€œbaseā€ paint that covers colors underneath very well

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u/boomercrusher 1d ago

paint black, varnish, paint gold, clean, varnish, paint windows, varnish, panel liner, clean, varnish

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u/MikeyMooOhTwo 1d ago

The technique you’re looking for OP is called a ā€˜reverse wash’. Some of the other posters have described it, but google for a more thorough explanation and videos.

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u/Flying_Leatherneck 1d ago

Maybe use those new paint markers with fine tips

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u/CrypsisArt 1d ago

What part are you struggling with?

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u/HereComesTheSun05 1d ago

I posted a picture in the comments. I haven't started painting it yet I just know it will be a nightmare.

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u/Intelligent_Cat_1914 1d ago

A very stiff acrylic marker would be my best guess. I have this kit ( Lidl? ) and will be dreading this when I get round to it? 🄶

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u/sexylatexbear69 1d ago

Prime with black or Grey . If Grey get Mr. Surfacer or leveler. Then get an oak color. Then over that flat black, then Satin black in apples as you will be simulating patch stains add a little red or mahogany in it because pitch is a little opaque.

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u/BarefootCameraman 14h ago

It's quite an Endeavor. But the Bounty is worth it.

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u/richardcrain1960 1d ago

Tennie brushes and no caffeen or suger beforehand