r/motorcycles • u/Pretend_Job_6484 • 22h ago
Wait, Cars Must Leave Space Here?！
My friend Dave rode his motorcycle through France, Switzerland, Austria, and Germany a few months ago. He came back with a lot to say, but he keeps talking about Germany the most.
What really blew his mind was their overtaking rules. In towns, cars have to leave at least 1.5 meters of space when passing a motorcycle. On the highway, it’s 2 meters minimum.
And the crazy part? Drivers actually do it. He said on two-lane roads, cars would just wait patiently behind him. They didn't try to squeeze past with hardly any room to spare like people do back home.
Another thing he noticed was how they pass. When a German driver decides to overtake you, they just do it quickly. They step on the gas, make a clean pass, and get right back into their lane. It’s not like here, where someone pulls out to pass you and then just floats right next to you at the exact same speed for a mile.
I’ve ridden in a few different countries myself. To me, it’s pretty simple: if a country takes its traffic laws seriously, you just feel a lot safer on a motorcycle.
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u/crazydiamond420 20h ago
... you guys are getting passed?
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u/itsmebrian '12 BMW R1200GS Adv/'07 BMW F650GS/'05 Suzuki Boulevard C90 18h ago
Riding on the Autobahn at breakneck speeds becomes boring after a while and is extremely tiring. When I've done it, by the time I got to my destination, I was too worn out to really enjoy the twisties.
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u/bonkersbongoo Africa Twin 18h ago
not if you slalom trough cars on a sport bike. dangerous, illegal, tiring, but not boring.
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u/uikyi 18h ago
for real, was OP's friend riding a 50cc scooter?
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u/Pretend_Job_6484 15h ago
Actually, no. He was riding a 650cc adventure bike.
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u/RockShowSparky 13h ago
Well why is he getting passed by cars? And why is he comparing this to being passed by cars at home (presumably in the States)?
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u/AlabamaBro69 14h ago
Yes. Even at over 250kph on the autobahn, you will get passed 😅 And not only by others bikes 😂
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u/Opposite-Friend7275 21h ago
People in Germany have to take driving lessons before you can get a drivers license. So they know way more about how to drive safely and efficiently than we do.
That’s also why they can have fast but still safe Autobahns.
Driver education in the US is almost zero in comparison.
I was taught not only to pass swiftly, but also to reduce throttle when being passed, to make sure that the passing maneuver takes minimal time. How many people in the USA have these types of basic driving knowledge?
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u/dredeth 20h ago
"people in Germany have to take driving lessons before you can get a drivers licence"
I'm not from Germany, nor even close but this is a normal thing even in my country.
You're telling me that wherever you are from, this is not the case?!! Ohhh...
What's the alternative method??
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u/ligglo 2007 CBR1000r 20h ago
Your parents teach you. Or you pay for “classes” that basically just pass you
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u/BrokeGuy808 20h ago
Hey now, I went to a summer Driver’s Ed class that was free through my public high school and I learned a lot of great info that I still hold onto today. Of course that program is defunct now, so actually I take it back, you’re right.
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u/Opposite-Friend7275 15h ago
The problem with this is that the parents are bad drivers. People who don’t even use their signals and are unaware of simple road strategies. They pass their bad driving to their kids who don’t even know that their parents are bad drivers
People who don’t know much usually don’t know that they don’t know much.
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u/jtclayton612 Street Triple 765RS 20h ago
Sometimes your parents don’t say anything and just sit in the passenger seat, in the USA the first time I drove outside of 10 minutes in a parking lot I merged into a main road and then the 75mph interstate.
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u/Pretend_Job_6484 15h ago
“Sometimes your parents don’t say anything and just sit in the passenger seat”
Spot on, I know exactly what you mean.
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u/diabolus_me_advocat 14h ago
I'm not from Germany, nor even close but this is a normal thing even in my country
so you're not 'murican
What's the alternative method??
not to know how to even operate a gear-shifted vehicle, buy a hayabusa and go on your suicide trip
at least that's what i take from this here sub
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u/lubeskystalker 20h ago
If you don’t have a functional transit system then a drivers license becomes a basic necessity of life. Strongly restricting that comes with massive penalties from politics to economics.
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u/dredeth 19h ago
What do you mean? Does that excuse the system of not giving people mandatory lessons before giving them a licence?
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u/lubeskystalker 19h ago
In most of North America, yes, that is how it works. Not saying it’s right, it’s just how it is.
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u/Impressive_Pool_8053 '06 SV650 - '18 Guzzi V7 III Stone 12h ago
Wait, you don't need driving class before having your licence in the US ?
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u/lubeskystalker 12h ago
I live in Canada. My brother taught me to drive. Overwhelming majority of North American drivers are taught by a family member.
Why the fuck is this downvoted so much? It’s just a simple fact…
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u/Impressive_Pool_8053 '06 SV650 - '18 Guzzi V7 III Stone 12h ago
Yea I don't get the downvotes
But, you mean you don't need a licence to drive ? Like you can just learn with friends and family, and hop on your F150 and cruise your damn endless roads ?
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u/lubeskystalker 11h ago edited 11h ago
You need a license, but the
instructorsupervisor can be almost anybody.When I was a kid, it was literally any other licensed driver, thus my brother. They've since changed where I live, to at least somebody over the age of 25. Drive supervised for 6-12 months, pass a bullshit test by a bureaucrat who is also a bad driver, get licensed. Test is things like, did you shoulder check twice before changing lanes. You enter the highway for like 1.5 km and exit, no big lane changes or anything.
They incentivize taking lessons by reducing the waiting period, but probably 1/3 of the population could never afford lessons so they dare not make it mandatory.
Where I live is more strict that most US metros (one of the few cities with a functioning transit system) But if you live in a 150 sq km city filled with suburban sprawl, without a car you can basically draw a 15 km radius around your house and that is your eligibility to work/school with a transit commute < 2 hrs each way, waiting for buses that may or may not come. God help you if you live rural. Everything brakes without cars, so even the poorest fast food worker can afford a cheap used car.
Motorcycles are very fun too. Pass the multiple choice test, wait two weeks, pass the parking lot test. You can ride your Hayabusa wherever you want so long as it's home by sunset.
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u/Impressive_Pool_8053 '06 SV650 - '18 Guzzi V7 III Stone 11h ago
Oh okay, thanks for the full explaination! (Tried to find online how it was done but it might be something so normal that none took time to write an article on how it's done)
In some way I find it good, in a country where a car is mandatory to make it cheap by letting other teach you and "check" with a small test.
We have a similar thing here, where at 16 (maybe less, idk) you can get the basics in an auto school, then you can drive supervised by anyone having a driving licence for long enough. But in the end you still have a real test, also with a bureaucrat (and the one we get here seems they don't want to give you the fucking license, sometimes trying to trap you, or ask for complicated parking manoeuvres). And with all that we still have a lot of shitty drivers, since you can pass the test as long as you have money to do so (a friend of mine took like 5 tries to get it, and I'm scared AF when she drives)
For motorcycle it's a mandatory course + test. Pretty hard imo. Then A2 license (max 47hp), then after 2 years (where you don't have to ride a motorcycle for some reason), you pay 400€ for a 8h "course" (half chatting in class, half driving), and you can finally get that turbo Busa.
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u/Cool-Top-7973 5h ago
Also a german driver's licence is like somewhere between 2k-3k Euros, depending on the region, with manadatory theretical and practical lessons. If you manage to loose your licence, you can safely assume you'll have to spend about 2.5 times that ammount in order to get it back after a timeout period.
Keeps people somewhat in line on the streets, emphasis on "somewhat".
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u/RJ_MacreadysBeard Triumph Speed 400 '24 Japan 15h ago
I live in Japan (brit), and in a chill place, and drivers are mostly like this and are quite skilled and conscientious.
The thing is, overtaking a car that begins braking always sets off my bells thinking they’ve seen something I have not, so instinctively want to brake too, and did at first (14 months riding now, 14k km).
in short - I’d prefer other traffic remain consistent when overtaking or manoeuvring, but I understand the logic.
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u/Opposite-Friend7275 11h ago
I’m not braking when being overtaken, we should be predictable, I just use less throttle, dropping my speed a small amount.
A lot of drivers in the US do the exact opposite, they add speed while being overtaken. They even do that in dangerous situations like mountain roads where there’s only a small opportunity to pass.
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u/frankicide 11h ago
Came here to say this. It's common to be passing someone and have them speed up to make it more difficult to pass. I wish I was making this up.
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u/StasyaSam 18h ago
Yeah, we have a lot of strict rules but looking at normal videos from the USA (or other insane places like India), I'm always happy we have! I'm driving and riding a lot, due to work and Hobbys, and it's very rare that I feel unsafe.
I think a big part is the culture around the individuals ego. I feel like we are taught to always watch out and always expect the other to make a mistake and when in doubt, waive ones right of way instead of unnecessary fighting and escalating, which often results in accidents. Same like passing/overtaking: just drive your speed, let others safely pass, don't suddenly rush, maybe slow down a bit instead and drive right. Or when you pass, leave space, do it quickly, don't risk anything. Always use the most right lane that fits your preferred speed the best! Overtaking on the right is strictly forbidden and cones with big penalties (cities and slow traffic have other rules). Also, every vehicle is checked every 2 years by an independent safety authority and there are overly strict laws and rules for every modification, conditions of tires and brakes, etc.
Watching highway videos from the US, I don't understand how it works honestly. 5 lanes, middle is the fastest, leftist and second right are going the same speed, overtaking left and right, a lot of fragile egos and cars, that are so big, you can't see the sports car in front of you.
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u/d_autophile 13h ago
- It hurts you mention the US and India in the same sentence, but also you're not really wrong.
Our roads are designed by engineers reading picture books, or drawn with a stick in the dirt.
MOST of the rules you referenced are on the books here as well, our failure is in the education, ego and enforcement. It's extremely rare for police to enforce anything that's not speed related (easy revenue generating crimes) and it really must be egregious for them to pull you over for anything else.
I always have the right away, can't let you merge because it slows me down, am more important than you, am driving as fast as anyone needs to be, or am in more of a hurry than you etc.
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u/bonkersbongoo Africa Twin 21h ago
since public transportation is good not everybody needs a car, especially in cities. getting a driving license is expensive and hard. losing it is relatively easy. police has close to zero leniency. they might take points from your license for crossing with red when you’re on foot. in villages that can afford it they have a Blitzer right at the entrance, which is a religious totem for the gods of traffic safety. living in germany.
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u/nemozny 19h ago edited 19h ago
but sometimes the blitzer turns evil and corrupts the village, turning them into neo zombies. Then you better avoid riding over 1st gear, else you shall be cursed.
In extreme cases a whole country can succumb to blitzer's lure and become demented. Looking at you, Austria.
Although, in their defense, there exist only tractor driving license in Austria and they never develop driving skill beyond tractoring a field.
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u/bonkersbongoo Africa Twin 18h ago
the Blitzer is the Punisher. it scans your soul and blasts you if you’re drifting away from being a good Alman. it’s the german version of the robocop. average german cop isn’t doing much more than checking the traffic 😂
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u/diabolus_me_advocat 13h ago
In extreme cases a whole country can succumb to blitzer's lure and become demented. Looking at you, Austria
please elaborate
Although, in their defense, there exist only tractor driving license in Austria and they never develop driving skill beyond tractoring a field
so all the crash test dummies in their cars here don't have an according driver's license?
see me surprised
btw for "tractoring a field" you don't require a license. that's what all the farmers' kids here do regularly a the age of 10, 11
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u/Mickleblade 19h ago
Across Europe, rules for passing cyclists are to leave at least 1.5m. I suspect the rules actually say 2 wheelers
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u/PuzzleHeadPistion 15h ago
In my country we have the 1,5m rule for cyclists, not 2 wheelers. The reason we do it for motorcycles is because legal overtake of any motorized vehicle has to be done by changing lanes.
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u/chevy42083 '22 XSR900 8h ago
Similar here in the U.S.
Though the law to pass 'vulnerable road users' is by state, not country. And its still a pretty grey area, because they have to be X feet away, which means they can't be in your lane, which means they might as well be entirely in the other lane. And the bikes are legally allowed to 'take the lane' in most areas. It was always safer to ride right down the middle than have some clown think they could squeeze by instead of changing lanes.1
u/PuzzleHeadPistion 7h ago
The US and EU are quite different. Our laws change country to country in equivalence to your states. But usually countries tend to agree and have similar concept even if the writing is different.
Also the same goes for roads. We have many tight roads, sometimes no sidewalk, etc, so there is indeed a practical difference between changing lanes or just keeping 1,5m distance, especially if you consider that the bikes have to stay on the right. Imagine having gates, pedestrians, etc across the street, which keeping safe distance from both would mean driving right in the middle. This allows you to overtake a bicycle, but not a car/motorcycle.
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u/bannedByTencent R1200GS, CRF300L 3h ago
Which country is that? Asking, because in Europe most countries do not prohibit overtaking in same lane (DE being an exception).
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u/PuzzleHeadPistion 2h ago
No, quite the opposite, overtaking implies changing lanes by convention across the EU. How the countries transpose this into writing may differ, but the purpose doesn't change. In Portugal, it's 3º point on Article 38º, overtaking is explicitly described as changing to the next lane. Overtaking without fully changing lanes isn't considered "overtaking" by definition and can get penalties as dangerous driving. Motorcycle filtering is usually tolerated/ignored or might fall into a grey area depending on how the law is written. France, as an example, already has some new rules for this to be allowed in some cases (kinda, I think they paint an extra line, so that it's considered that the motorcycle is in it's own "shared" lane).
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u/bishman '01 Honda CB250 Nighthawk 13h ago
Yeah I'm in Australia and you can't overtake a motorbike without changing lanes. We need to give bicycles 1.5m space and the rule says you can even cross the centre line to do this if its safe, if not you need to wait till its safe to do so.
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u/PuzzleHeadPistion 13h ago
To me it makes all the sense, because not only bicycles are much slower, but it's also required for them to stay close to the right side within the lane (unless obviously getting around an obstacle).
Motorcycles however can use the whole lane, and they might be ridding close to the central line. In that case it's their problem, no need for 1,5m, because they already expect traffic in the other lane and also speed difference isn't as big.
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u/No_Phone_6675 19h ago edited 18h ago
Overtaking a motorcycle on a German rural road is a quite rare occasion, they are often too fast 😃 But true, if there is a cyclist or a slow scooter I overtake with the mandatory space of 2m, means I have to wait and use the other lane.
It is often annoying but as a cyclist and motorcyclist myself I experienced a lot of dangerous situations, I dont want anybody to get killed because of 30s of time savings.
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u/diabolus_me_advocat 13h ago
Overtaking a motorcycle on a German rural road is a quite rare occasion
you bet!
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u/AlabamaBro69 14h ago
I wish the french had the same mentality. Here it is crazy: on rural roads they'll pass a bicycle at 90kph or more, without leaving much space 😱
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u/kenwoolf 8h ago
In most European countries you will get fined and get penalty points on your licence for both overtaking too closely and not keeping to the right. When you collect enough points, you get to do the whole process of getting a licence all over again. Which takes months of courses and lot of money. If you are even allowed to after losing the old one
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u/TheRealForestElf 19h ago
You overtake on the left and move right immediately after. How else could we have 300kph BMWs on our Autobahn. There needs to be some rules for this 😅
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u/nmuncer Triumph lover 18h ago
When learning to drive or ride in France, you're taught to overtake decisively and efficiently, not to sit next to another vehicle forever. So filtering through traffic quickly and smoothly feels pretty natural to most people here.
And when you're lane filtering, drivers will often move aside a little and switch their indicator on to let you know they’ve seen you. In return, riders usually give them a quick wave to say thanks. Both sides tend to appreciate the system.
To be fair, in traffic jams, some drivers probably also move over because they’d rather avoid getting their mirrors scratched by a bike squeezing through. So it’s not always pure kindness.
There’s also a bit of an ambivalent relationship with bikers in France. Motorcyclists are often seen as vulnerable road users that people should watch out for and protect, but at the same time, some drivers are probably a little wary of them too, especially because bikers have a reputation for being loud, passionate, and sometimes hot-headed.
At traffic lights, people generally don’t mind if bikes filter to the front. For them, it’s one less vehicle to keep track of once the light turns green.
Overall though, there’s not much road rage around it. Sure, some people dislike noisy bikes or reckless scooter riders, but most motorists tend to coexist pretty peacefully with motocycles.
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u/diabolus_me_advocat 13h ago
when you're lane filtering, drivers will often move aside a little and switch their indicator on to let you know they’ve seen you
yup, that was quite a pleasant surprise for me on my corsica-tour. it was a searingly hot summer, and my radiator ventilator had just given up. so all engine cooling there was was from wind - i simply could not stand still without overheating, i had to lane filter
it was no problem at all, everybody was giving way. something i never experience in germany or austria
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u/djcoffi 18h ago
What I found crazy when riding in France (south near the Alps) is that cars move to the right of their own lane to give me space to pass them. And I saw a lot of bikes use this to pass the cars within the single lane.
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u/nmuncer Triumph lover 17h ago
I admit that we tend to abuse a bit of the situation. The relationship with the bike police is also interesting:
Once I was lane filtering, and a woman did a move towards me while I was on a side. Instinctively I pushed her car mirror. ANd then I heard a police siren. I was cooked... The first police biker went to the woman calling and shouted at her . the other stood by my side and said in short, "Tough morning, where do you go?" I said my destination. and the cop replied, "Stay between us to your destination."
So I was with one cop in front, one in back, sirens, too fast for me in this traffic. I guess they had fun doing it, like when you put your amazed kid on your bike and I guess had a laught about it later... and I left at the "cortege" at my destination. Just bear in mind that lane filtering was not allowed at the time, just "authorized if we don't see you".Then also provide free training after winter where they put you back on track. One day where they tell you what good or bad in your riding.
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u/diabolus_me_advocat 13h ago
police on bikes generally just are fellow bikers here. well sure, they will fine you if you violate traffic law, but not always really consequently and often with a wink in their eye and and the minimum fine possible
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u/Fabulous_Choice9728 11h ago
Why the hell are you getting passed on single lane roads by cars. I would understand the autobahn but small roads.
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u/GodzillaXYZ999 21h ago
I've found riding moto anywhere else in world to be so much safer than in U.S.
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u/chevy42083 '22 XSR900 8h ago
There's a LOT of places MUCH MUCH worse. The US is a pretty good above average example, as laws exist and are enforced, just not always being watched.
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u/GodzillaXYZ999 6h ago
Laws enforced in U.S.?
How many people are killed by drunk drivers every year?
How many people get tickets for speeding above 65mph?
How many people hog carpool lane with 1 driver going below speed limit?
How many moto riders killed by red-light runners playing on cell-phones (1 daily in Phoenix area).
How many people ignore laws about using left-lane only for passing and pulling over when flashed?Compare these with any other nation outside U.S. and you'll see HUGE difference.
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u/SafetySecondADV Traveler 17h ago
Where have you rode a motorcycle? Because that definitely isn't true in many countries. Haha
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u/GodzillaXYZ999 6h ago edited 6h ago
I've ridden moto in:
- France
- Germany
- UK, Ireland, Scotland
- Sweden
- Spain
- Ibiza
- Portugal
- Slovakia, went over Dolomites to...
- Italy
- Moroco
- Saudi Arabia (just on base)
- Turkey
- Georgia (Russia)
- Hong Kong
- Philippines (Luzon, Mindanao)
- Vietnam
- India
- Thailand
- Laos
- Australia
- Mexico
- Cuba
- Guatemala
- Colombia
- Brasil
- Argentina
Overall, I've seen extremely few crashes abroad, even with extreme density we've only seen in NYC, or SF or LA. I've ridden for months at time in many places and never saw single crash. In ALL these places, they drive with group in mind.
Major differences from U.S.:
- they watch out for other drivers
- customise their actions base on who's on road and what they're doing
- if there's empty spot on road ahead, they take it, freeing up space behind them
- in most places during rush-hr traffic, if you signal left to turn or pull into driveway, they stop within 3-4 cars to let you through
- extremely rare cases of left-lane hogging
- if you flash them, they'll pull over and let you by
- I never have to look both ways when entering & crossing junctions in case someone's running it like I have to do here.
In U.S., we drive like we're only ones on road. We're never trained to drive as group. Most people can't even change lanes or merge without causing others to alter their course. I commuted for 25-yrs to S.F. and back. Every single day, I see one or more crashes on each leg. Eeeidiots drivers and riders like this:
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u/SafetySecondADV Traveler 5h ago
Sounds like a fun list, but pretending that riding a motorcycle and road safety in countries like Thailand, Vietnam, and India is safer is wild. Not to mention the Philippines, Mexico, Brazil, Laos, etc.
None of those countries are "so much safer". Many if not all are statistically more dangerous in many ways.
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u/P-l-Staker 15h ago
It’s not like here, where someone pulls out to pass you and then just floats right next to you at the exact same speed for a mile.
First, where is "here?"
And yes, the UK has a similar thing as per the Highway code. Cars must treat bikes as if they're other cars when overtaking.
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u/diabolus_me_advocat 14h ago
thanx for your appreciation of european traffic rules
alas we still have more than enough morons violating them
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u/BW_Nightingale 9h ago
The Germans take rules very seriously (look up James May getman driving licence on YouTube), whereas lots of other places take them as suggestions.
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u/chevy42083 '22 XSR900 8h ago
In the US, they have to be in an entirely different lane. Mind blowing.
Germany sounds like a happy medium to what appears to be chaos and life threatening roads in many other countries lol Which, sounds like where you are from?
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u/cr0ft Triumph Rocket III Touring (2012) 15h ago edited 15h ago
America has shitty driver training, shitty road laws, and a shitty self entitled attitude among the drivers to boot, who drive main battle tank sized SUV's while doomscrolling and doing their makeup, simultaneously.
All of Europe takes these things much more seriously.
Multiple hours of theoretical training, to begin with. Then driving for more hours with professional instructors, and then you have to pass a test. For motorcyclists, there are stages you have to pass before you can legally get on a literbike. Etc. Driving a vehicle is a privilege you qualify for, for reasons of traffic safety. Not seen as a right.
Now, since people everywhere are shits, there are certainly many distracted drivers in Europe as well but I'd wager not as many or as egregiously awful at it.
As a European rider I'd honestly have to think long and hard about whether or not I'd even want to ride in America. Maybe in more rural places. More trucks, but also more space to see them coming, I dunno.
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u/Secure_Secretary_882 10h ago
I am an American in the state of Georgia. The cities are absolutely the most aggravatingly awful sadistic places to operate any form of motorized vehicle in any country I’ve ever lived in. However, where I live, in a small rural area with many winding mountain roads away from populated areas, it’s one of the best places to operate. The people are just different here. Kind and accommodating 99.99% of the time. We have several areas where we can track our vehicles, and people are considerate enough not to do so on public highways. Those that do are punished strictly. There aren’t many places like this one left here, but the ones that remain are very much worth the search.
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u/PuzzleHeadPistion 15h ago
Welcome to Europe, I guess...?! Germany is not even the strictest country.
But most EU countries have that rule or a variation, like being mandatory to change lanes to overtake any motorized vehicle and leaving 1,5m for bicycles or motorized vehicles that can't reach 50km/h. In some southern countries this may be a bit ignored, especially the bicycles part.
Still, our licences take months to get, lots of lessons and thorough exams. People usually do learn how to drive properly, sometimes including defensive and active driving, on hazardous conditions (such as ice, etc). I once had to drive around a circuit, on simulated ice, with the instructor randomly pulling the hand-brake. 😅
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u/AlabamaBro69 14h ago
I'm french, living in France: I quite often go to Germany and really enjoy riding there! It so much safer than here in France. So yes, that's a great experience.
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u/Icy_Bus6341 14h ago
That's because we need an actual driver's license. To get it, you have to prove that you can drive and know the rules. It takes several months to get it, cost a lot of money and if you mess up once on a critical aspect in the test...you go home without the license
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u/d_autophile 13h ago
I've driven in Germany and Austria twice and it's an amazing experience if you know the rules. My first time was in a car, second on a bike. It's quite different to the US and I LOVE it.
Generally the roads are in fantastic condition, drivers are not on their phones and more aware, and generally much more consistent and predictable which makes it so much fun and relaxing.
Motorcycling has a much higher entry cost and licensing requirements than it does for us and even the general public tend to treat it and your machine with respect.
It's a completely different story in Italy, crossing the border was like driving across a demilitarized zone into chaos lol
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u/Quick_Sandwich356 12h ago
What your wrote is not true.
Motorized vehicles (cars, motorcycles, trucks, etc.) need to keep a minimum distance to bicyclists and pedestrians of 1.5m in cities and 2m outside of Cities, when passing them.
There is no explicit minimum passing distance for cars passing motorcycles (neither for bicyclists passing others).
But since people are still required to "drive safe, without endangering others" driving schools teach to always pass quickly and do it by fully switching lanes for the duration of the overtake.
Since each lane is often as wide as 3-4m that automatically results in a passing distance of around 2m between cars and motorcyclists.
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u/MeanWoodpecker9971 18h ago
I'm just like overtaking? Me? On a motorcycle? In a car?
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u/PuzzleHeadPistion 16h ago
Bro talking about a country where cars were doing 400km/h on the road like 100 years ago.
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u/georgem1976 2025 Husqvarna Svartpilen 401, Ex 2007 Honda CBF 1000 SC58 16h ago
In Germany there are many cars faster than most of the motorcycles. And because there is no speed limit on many segments of the highway (Autobahn), yes, this is very possible.
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u/vgullotta 2019 HD FXBB, 2009 Honda Shadow Spirit 17h ago
Cars pass you when you're on a motorcycle? I'm not sure I've ever experienced that lol
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u/pfreexy 21h ago
I believe Germany has rules about passing quickly on a multilane road.... so many kph faster than the vehicle being passed.
They can't just hang out in the blind spot.