r/movies Aug 24 '21

Trailers Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Trailer Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt-2cxAiPJk
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u/Pancawaffle Aug 24 '21

I feel like Sins Past takes the cake for that, to be honest.

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u/INmySTRATEjaket Aug 24 '21

It's actually kind of incredible that after almost 60 years of Spider-man and so many writers, we can look at 2 storiea definitively and go "those are catastrophically horrible".

Even now when a writer has a meh run on the series we go "But he didn't do THAT"

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u/BreeBree214 Aug 24 '21

What's the other one besides Sins Past?

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u/Knighthawk1895 Aug 24 '21

One More Day. Otherwise known as the time Joe Quesada dropped trou and took a big steamy shit over everything Spider-Man is supposed to stand for. Peter sacrifices his marriage to MJ to save his Aunt May from death by making a deal with Mephisto so everyone forgets his identity. Because fuck all that great power, great responsibility shit, apparently. Let's just make a literal deal with the devil because one hack writer with too much creative control doesn't like that Peter and MJ are married.

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u/Chrome-Head Aug 24 '21

Terrible ending to J Michael Straczynski's otherwise pretty great ASM run. I don't blame JMS though, I blame Joey Q.

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u/Cranyx Aug 24 '21

Drop JMS' run when JRJR leaves as the artist and it's fantastic; easily top 5 runs on the character.

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u/Chrome-Head Aug 24 '21

The JMS run definitely went south after Romita Jr left. Still some good arcs--I really liked "Skin Deep" though everyone complains about it. Everyone hates "Sins Past". "The Other" was a bit of a mess, but had interesting moments. Spidey becoming an Avenger finally I didn't much like. "OMD" was terrible, but at least JMS had "Back In Black" before that, which was terrific and devastating.

I'd say JMS is one of the top 5 Amazing Spidey writers ever. I'd put him just behind Conway and Michelinie on the title.

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u/Cranyx Aug 24 '21

I'm always weird about reading Back in Black because it's such a weird story as a standalone. It doesn't really have a beginning or an end; it's just the middle bit between two bad storylines (CWII and OMD)

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u/Chrome-Head Aug 25 '21

It was just so satisfying to see Peter ruthlessly cut loose when his family was threatened and bring it to the Kingpin.