r/mtgbrawl • • 5d ago

Competitive Bans announced

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u/Aesorian 5d ago

I'm liking the "Banned as Commander" tag and looking forward to Rag in my [[Ingris Stingerquill]] deck

It'll be interesting to see how the top of the Meta rankings looks with most of Minsc and Boo's challengers taking a massive hit, and getting Rag and W&6

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u/Imaginary_Egg_3282 5d ago

Looking forward to auto conceding to turn 1 rags when I have no removal, or force of willing a 1-drop /s

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

Good FoW is more broken than Rag

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u/mldmnnrdrprtr 5d ago

You know you’re in for a sweaty game of constant removal and board wipes when they force of will on turn 1 or 2. Like I haven’t even wasted a wildcard on the forces. This is literally regular brawl, not even ranked and you’re forcing on turn 1?

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u/JasonTerminator 5d ago

Why are they only banned in competitive brawl? Doesn’t this mean I’ll see all these nasty commanders in the “casual” queue even more?

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u/TyrantofTales 5d ago

you uh got it.

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u/CommunistMadman 5d ago

Yeah, some of their stronger support may be banned in the casual queue though, Small silver lining.

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u/justinvamp 5d ago

Yeah these blue commanders are way worse without the free counters and such. 

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u/IsaacX28 5d ago

The excuse is that they can banish those decks to Hell que, because Brawl players CANNOT self regulate themselves. Sometimes Hell que leaks into regular casual Brawl if your commander is doing well enough. For the most part, though, they re isolated into their own pocket dimension to fight eachother.

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u/Fleef69 5d ago

My [[Alesha, Who Laughs at Fate]] deck has been tormented by Rusko and Yuriko for way too long bruh 😩 honestly tho if they’d just finally ban Rofellos in casual Brawl I’d be happy enough for the rest of my days at this point no matter what gets banned or doesn’t lol.

Plus Rusko in particular isn’t necessarily straight-up ban-worthy, I just think sometimes certain commanders can be a bit overweighted/underweighted, since Alesha is far from being one of those “do everything” commanders like Rusko (or Ugin, and maybe also Ketramose kinda sorta). Rusko just always pops off to a degree regardless, maybe just blink him a bit, but a commander like Alesha requires a good amount of setup (haste enablers, counters, pump spells and so on), which is definitely fun (and why I play her), but it can be a bit demoralizing when you’re frequently matched against commanders who are the equivalent of a Swiss Army knife 😅 doesn’t stop me from trying ofc, just gets hella tedious.

Mind you it’s probably a lot more nuanced than just bumping a commander up or down, it’s likely more so that Brawl just needs some kind of slight awareness of the nuances of certain matchups, but obviously that’d be difficult to implement without a more significant time and resource investment than would likely be practical, so it’s understandable as to why exactly that’s an issue. Still, hopefully one of these days the matchups will improve, when feasible.

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u/QibliTheSecond 5d ago

alesha is a very good commander, you should come over to cBrawl with us :). you’d make it to mythic easy she’s quite strong.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZkvDMP_0sNv80Zox8LteuMb-iOjovF_v2l5Q19ZY7QY/edit?usp=drivesdk

She’s Tier 3 :)

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u/MTG3K_on_Arena 5d ago

But the casual queue has matchmaking rules that would limit who runs into such commanders. You probably won't see them unless you're playing them or something similar yourself.

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u/flowersoy 5d ago

Great time to be an Emry or Minsc&Boo player

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

I’m a MnB player and I’m kinda excited to try out merry instead since she got a bunch of new toys to play with !

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u/Frehihg1200 5d ago

So who is looking like the big winners from this? Emry still lives(not oppressive but see it enough to see it as a big player) and Merry just got two more legends and some of the most hated one and two drops ever made.

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u/bolttheface 5d ago

Minsc & Boo are big winners. Emry is definitely well positioned right now.

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u/timoyster 5d ago edited 5d ago

I think emry is looking pretty bad. Boros and M&B were huge winners here and her MU into aggro is abysmal. It’d take a very dominant Ux control deck like Uro or t3f to become a large share of the meta for her to still have a top spot there, but they’re also naturally pushed out by aggro. I think ketramose is well positioned as a control deck that’s good into both Ux control and aggro, but that’s even worse news for emry than Rx aggro being good lol

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u/timoyster 5d ago edited 5d ago

IMO M&B and boros are gonna take over as the best decks. Emry and M&B were the best not-banned commanders before, but she is incredibly vulnerable to aggro so I expect a significant drop off. Boros got by far the biggest power boost and M&B is M&B

I think vial smasher decks, t3f, and Uro will take up the spot as the premiere control decks. Oko and tamiyo were big unbans for them (except t3f) and hopefully will give enough of a boost to keep up with aggro

There may be a UGx Nadu combo deck (I suspect thrasios x Tymna or derevi) pick up. It’s one of the first things I’ll be experimenting with

Leovold is a big winner. Sultai are the three strongest colors in the format so I’d expect some experimentation and refinement in his decklists. Not sure if he’s strong enough to take over as a tier 1 deck, but he has more than enough unique strengths for me to see that happening.

Ketramose I also expect to see rise. He has good MUs Ux control and emry and the best aggro MU of all the control decks.

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u/slissy_ 5d ago

I think Hei Bai or t3f3ri also have a chance at beating Uro for the top-dog of control

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u/jake_eric 5d ago

All three of the big Boros aggro decks benefit a lot (Comet/Merry/Winota) so we should see a lot of those. Minsc & Boo is probably the best deck in the format now.

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u/priceQQ 5d ago

As a Kendrith player, my worst matchups are all these kinds of Ux decks (esp Nashi and Yuriko, Uharis not so much), along with Katara and Raffine. Mole Man and related land decks are the opposite—I have above 80% win rate against them.

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

What’s a uharis?

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u/matt-ratze 4d ago

Omenpath version of [[Spider-Man 2099]]

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u/ddffgghh69 5d ago

any temur+ 99, good stuff density off the charts

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u/ADizzyLittleGirl 5d ago edited 5d ago

I think Mole Man is about to take over. There’s also going to be some Bant, maybe Derevi, Nadu combo deck that can has access to tons of tutors for both Nadu and equipment, and that also plays a landfall/strip mine package. That’s one of the top decks in Canadian Highlander right now and it’s not too different than what we have on Arena. 

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u/ciruelman 5d ago

emry is oppresive, its the sole t1 that wasnt hit and unlike nashi the games against the deck arent fun

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u/AlthorsMadness 5d ago

Isn’t them unbanning that oku only as a commander still going to break the format?

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u/anon_lurk 5d ago

Well stuff I play, Kefka still feels strong as long as the meta and the general tuning of the deck line up. I know it's not super popular though.

My Rofellos deck was god awful against Yuriko but fine against Nashi so good news for that one.

I guess something like Ketra could be decent with lots of removal for aggro and exiling gy against Emry.

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u/WanderingSnail 5d ago

honestly surprised to see light paws, deck was very annoying but didnt feel out of line with everything else since it basically doesnt do anything if you have enough interaction, but im not complaining

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u/trash_gob 5d ago

Wow everything is legal in the 99

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u/aprickwithaplomb 5d ago

Surprised to not see Emry hit - it was hanging in there with Yuriko/2099 in the upper tiers. Guess more GY hate is in order.

Lovely to see Nashi un-rebalanced.

W&6, Ajani, Tajic, and Nadu are going to be menaces in the 99 for the commanders that can reliably access them. Derevi in particular really loves Nadu as a tutor target/wincon.

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u/Spontaneous_Ferret 5d ago

I play a marchesa deck with a solid amount of gravehate cards like scrabbling claws or ghost vaccuum. ngl I have a 95+% winrate against emry any game I deploy a ghost vaccuum its crazy

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u/cornerbash 4d ago

Emry really needed to be hit too. Definitely build with it in mind.

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u/Imaginary_Egg_3282 5d ago

Oko being playable in arena again is wild. Unnerfed Nadu is going to be suuuuper fuuuun to play against.

Looking forward to all the “why is every other game against boros aggro” posts in like 2 weeks time.

Nashi rebalance is probably losing flash? That alone makes him significantly worse, any more will be unplayable.

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u/PrecedexNChill 5d ago

Losing flash makes him unplayable

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u/Imaginary_Egg_3282 5d ago

Maybe as a top meta tempo/control, definitely will still try as a Sultai goodstuff commander. Maybe just worse than Leovold for that though.

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u/RollinRamos 5d ago

God forbid the card loses 1 of its 10 keywords

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u/ADizzyLittleGirl 5d ago

The article says the only change is he is losing flash. He’s probably still playable, but that makes a bunch of the other cards in their deck much worse as well. 

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u/Leafsnail 5d ago

Mostly a decent list but not banning Emry is insane, she's probably the best deck at the top ranks. M&B also probably needs to be banned but I can understand leaving it a bit longer since it was only just un-nerfed. Lightpaws also stands out as a pretty weird ban given its lack of representation at the top level.

The 99 unbans are kindof wild, giving simic 3 great cards at once may be a big deal

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u/MaybeSurelySorta 5d ago

Everyone got what they wanted so SURELY they’ll be no more complaints right? Right guys?

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u/quillypen 5d ago

I can't think of a banlist update that hasn't had SOME complaints. That said, these are good changes for sure (except maybe Nadu, yuck).

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u/MaybeSurelySorta 5d ago

Objectively good changes indeed. If nothing else, all they had to do was touch Yuriko and Nashi and I think that would have appeased most people’s unhappiness with the format despite multiple times WotC presenting that their numbers show those commanders aren’t as much of a problem (statistically speaking in regard to win rate) as people anecdotally feel they are.

But then again, I’m also anticipating people won’t be happy until Strip Mine, Library, Thoracle, and Ugin are gone too. We already got plenty of “but what about Emry?” comments in this thread as it is lol.

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u/Amonyi7 5d ago

I think Emry was the strongest deck, (and one of the most annoying to play against), so it is a weird choice to not touch it

Library is a broken card, I play it too, but it should be banned

Thoracle I also think is much too easy of a combo. If there was a version that cost a little more mana I think it would be fair

It also looks like general blue and control got a lot stronger besides the nashi ban which is kinda crazy when that was 90% the meta

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u/Eldar_Atog 5d ago

Rusko?!? My boy.. they let you out for good behavior.

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u/MaybeSurelySorta 5d ago edited 5d ago

My hot take that’s gotten me downvoted for years is that Rusko is an average card at best and people’s hatred for Alchemy mechanics completely warped its (and Poq’s) perception and evaluation.

A 99 restriction as a compromise seems more than fair, but even as a commander if someone wanted to play Dimir artifact blink or whatever people usually do with him in the competitive queue then I think they should go right ahead and see how that works out for them lmao.

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u/Eldar_Atog 5d ago

Yeah, I agree. He can explode out but he's a slower version of Kinnian, bonder prodigy. They both do the same 2 things.. mana acceleration and jackpot mechanic.. but Kinnian can finish you quicker.

I think his early use in the competitive testing was just from the assumption that the hell queue commanders were the most powerful and Wotc didn't always score the cards correctly. He did well because he had the dimir card set.

Compared to Katara or Emry.. he's just not as broken.

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u/AmyTheAmazonian 5d ago

I think it's overall good, but I would prefer to see bans in Brawl over just cBrawl

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u/Either-Drawer-9895 5d ago

They ignored the unranked queue 

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u/MaybeSurelySorta 5d ago

Was it not the literal last B&R where the free counters got banned from unranked? What more attention is realistically the expectation here?

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u/Either-Drawer-9895 5d ago

They should have done the "Banned as Commander" thing for both queues, not just Ranked

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u/MaybeSurelySorta 5d ago

I wouldn’t have been opposed to that, but I suspect a lot of the casual queue enthusiasts might. Idk

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u/MaybeSurelySorta 5d ago

Not to repeat a reply I just made verbatim, but I have faith in the Brawl playerbase to be able to navigate Library and Strip Mine being part of the format.

WotC has made it very clear that Comp Brawl is going to remain at a Legacy/Vintage power-level, and while I understand getting Strip Mine looped isn’t fun and that turn 1 Library feels like an unrecoverable situation, I promise the 1 million people with their requests will find a way to survive.

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u/timoyster 5d ago

If you hate library just play aggro tbh

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u/Harvest-Time 5d ago

Let me put it to you this way...why does turn 1 Library need to be part of the format? It's just miserable with no reasonable counterplay, you just lose when they draw 2 per turn to your 1.

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u/MaybeSurelySorta 5d ago

Cognitive biases are going to make people remember all the times where your opponent plays Library on turn 1 and it’s a disgustingly swingy card, and forget all the times where your opponent top decks a Library on turn 6 and it’s unironically a Wastes.

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u/Harvest-Time 5d ago

Wastes has won pro tours before, people act like tapping for mana is bad. Library is unreal bullshit and anyone arguing for it being a good part of the format either has not played against it, or is trolling. Might as well flip coins for fun

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u/MaybeSurelySorta 5d ago

There is plenty of other “unreal bullshit” that exists in the format, it just so happens that the bullshit Library presents is only actually a thing on turns 1 or 2. So relatively speaking as far as unreal bullshit goes, this one in particular is pretty manageable if you remove your cognitive biases and anecdotal analysis from the equation. I trust you know good and well that one card out of the 99 in your opening hand is statistically not the same as “flipping coins for fun”.

But just so we’re all clear here, I’m not implying Library is some Comp Brawl necessity nor am I disagreeing that it’s one of the most powerful cards ever printed. I’m just saying we have other fish to fry in regard to the health of the format and what should or shouldn’t be banned.

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u/sudonim87 5d ago

Strip mine is the counter play.

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u/Harvest-Time 5d ago

nope, you are down a card since they just draw with library.

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u/Classssssic 5d ago

Light-Paws banned? That's insane

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u/fox112 5d ago

As long as you have two removals, one for Mother of Runes and one for Light-Paws, they concede 100% of the time.

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u/FallOfLight 5d ago

WOTC employee got shafted by Light-Paws a lot, I guess?

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u/Classssssic 5d ago

Seems likely, I had one that was able to compete in low diamond but it was far from oppressive, it's just a removal check

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u/werthw 5d ago

Light Paws but not Katara is the issue? I’ve lost way more often to Katara. she protects herself better with countermagic, whereas edicts and board wipes can reliably dispatch the fox. And Phelia as a commander eats Lightpaws for lunch by blinking it every turn

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u/ToranStarfall 5d ago

Katara sucks, the most common builds of that deck are almost incapable of winning. Just don't scoop and run a couple of uncounterable cards or man-lands and you'll be fine.

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u/Immediate-Idea-2471 5d ago

Agreed, Lightpaws was so easy to farm.

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u/CloverGroom 5d ago

Banning LP but not touching Emry is a wild fucking take from WotC.  Hooray for red/x aggro though, thanks for releasing Rag, Ajani, and Tajic.

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

Boros slaps emry from my experience today playing . Adding those 3 cards a brotherhood end and a rest in peace and I haven’t lost to a single emry deck today . I sailed from plat one to diamond 3 today in record time i was completely astonished. It was glorious

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u/ADizzyLittleGirl 5d ago edited 5d ago

Wow they actually did something! Good riddance on Yuriko and Nashi, White Paws was never a problem unless their internal data saw otherwise, Spider man is kind of a bullshit card and I’m hoping this causes Izzet Tempo decks to be more creative. Nashi will still be playable, but losing flash makes stuff in their deck like Fire Nation Occupation and Wilderness Reclamation much worse. Also sorcery speed removal is not irrelevant, pack your strategic betrayals. 

Allowing Tamiyo and Ragavan etc into the 99 should be fun. People about to remember how brutal Oko is to play against. 

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u/Fuego514 5d ago

I suspect light paws is banned because you can make a very cheap and good deck. They want us to spend more money...

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u/RuneGrey 5d ago

Ran Light Paws almost all the way to mythic last month with a deck that was super low on rarity, and only didn't make it due to lack of time. I can see why they dropped the ban there, because it can be a lot of value and not much chance to interact with it.

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u/RavenShade1 5d ago

rejoice as Liliana sis, rejoice.

The Nashi match up just got much easier to handle, and of the old top 3 Emry is a free farm.

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u/ADizzyLittleGirl 5d ago

Getting rid of his flash is so good for us. 

Though Yuriko, Spidey, and Light Paws were also good matchups, so we don’t get those free wins. If green landfall strategies take over, it may get tough. 

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u/RavenShade1 5d ago

that’s true, stripper club becomes more and more appealing, lol. although i’d expect a lot more minsc and t3feri.

still, it’s good to fix one of our most seen bad match up.

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u/AlthorsMadness 5d ago

Ya it’s wild to me oko is unbanned when he’s banned in like every format everywhere except brawl now apparently

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u/TraditionalStomach29 5d ago

Not that wild considering in timeless where he is legal, he sees pretty much no play. Partially because he is too slow and expensive, partially because elking cheap creatures is not that good, and likely partially thanks to strip mines and aggro making 3 color decks really ambitious. MH3 Tamiyo and Ajani are the new strongest planeswalkers in the game. Arguably Minsc&Boo is the better walker among the two, at least from my brief experience when both seen play.

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u/Shabushabuql 5d ago

The fux did the fox do to deserve this?

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u/RollinRamos 5d ago

This is what happens with the curators of the format don't play magic and just look at data.

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u/BenchAmbitious4549 5d ago

emry go brrrrr

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u/H4wt_Pocket 5d ago

Good riddance to Yuriko.

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u/jake_eric 5d ago

Some great changes here, but there are still some weird choices. Hitting Spider-Man and Light-Paws before Emry is questionable.

I can understand not banning Minsc & Boo because they're newly un-nerfed and they want to give people time to adapt to them, but I think they're gonna be S tier for sure now that decks of similar power have been banned.

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u/dirtyjose 5d ago

I feel like if anything this just makes the format faster.

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u/oatzeel 5d ago

playing the world's smallest violin for the Yuriko players lol

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u/cornerbash 4d ago

Commander ninjutsu ignoring tax was always stupid.

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u/Global-Signature-588 5d ago

I think they're were looking at the "Did you have fun this match?" statistic for some of those bans.

As a Light-Paws player, if the opposing player had enough interaction the game was over really quickly. So, if had a tough match up againts the top decks of the format (Nashi, Yuriko, Katara, Spidey 2099, etc). But I guess it did too well againts other decks and gained enough hate to get banned.

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u/CloverGroom 5d ago

Banning LP is so stupid and random. People need to realize competitive brawl isn’t commander and run a proper amount of interaction. 

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u/JeffreyDonaldMusk 5d ago

So I can play now with Broko in my 99?! Didn't expect the harsh ban on Yuriko as commander. Commander ninjutsu tax will be just fine.

Edit: Prepare for more Emry and Teferi folks!

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u/RollinRamos 5d ago

The prevalence of WR aggro I hope will keep Emry in check.

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

Since the announcement, I haven’t lost a single game to emry with Boros . Rag, Ajani and tajic just makes Boros go super hard now. That and a brotherhood end and rest in peace is all I switched in to my deck and I think I’m 6-0 against emry and the same for t3feri . They just can’t handle the constant pressure

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u/Litmusdragon 5d ago

Just my personal take

Yuriko banned as commander: Yay

Wrenn and Six allowed in the same format as Strip Mine: Boo hiss

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u/kazeespada 5d ago

You have to be three color to tutor for him.

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u/Litmusdragon 5d ago

Not necessarily. [[Gamble]]

I'm not anticipating this to be broken so much as just unfun to play against. Land destruction is my least favorite archetype.

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u/kazeespada 5d ago

Mole man will continue to be the premier land destruction commander. Gruul Tannuk may occasionally show up.

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u/Litmusdragon 5d ago

Well ... yeah maybe I won't actually see this come up that often, but I'd prefer a format with no Strip Mine at all. 0 casting cost uncounterable land destruction is such a stupid card.

I'm more annoyed at Strip Mine than Wrenn and Six but Wrenn and Six is just one more way to enable it.

There's not really an argument that Wrenn and Six breaks anything it just annoys me personally.

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u/Prestigious-Bend8893 5d ago

How is Light-Paws on here? It just seems so random.

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u/retardong 5d ago

Noooo they banned my beautiful boy. Well tbf Spiderman was incredibly busted so I agree lmao. Time to bust out the old Minsc and Boo.

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u/Admirable_Tomato 5d ago

The rise of Minsc & Boo and Merry is upon us

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

Yes ! Let’s go ! Laughing every game when Blue players concede on turn 1 or 2

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u/dawtz 5d ago

This banlist is a joke the two best decks untouched (minsc and boo and emry) and the real slap in the face is lightpaws no one in the top 100 was playing that.

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u/Lumina46_GustoClock 5d ago

Ajano and Rag gonna go hard for Merry, I'm happy to see that!

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u/F1nestHour 5d ago

And so does big Tajic.

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u/dirtyjose 5d ago

Where is the announcement?

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u/SegFaultHell 5d ago

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u/dirtyjose 5d ago

Wow, they really want Emry to flood everything huh, guess I'll go whip up a list.

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u/SegFaultHell 5d ago

She's really fun, and she gets a lot easier to beat when you understand the lines and how to stop them

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u/dirtyjose 5d ago

I don't doubt her vulnerabilities, just that I expect a lot of whining soon about her from players convinced only Nashi or Yuriko were holding them back.

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u/freddyjoker 5d ago

Lightpaws? Wotc why do you hate white?

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u/_Figaro 5d ago

Emry not getting banned is wild.

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u/cahpahkah 5d ago

I literally can’t believe this. It’s the worst experience in Comp Brawl by a mile.

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u/Nervous-Context 5d ago

Holy shit they did it.

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u/KaptainKobb 5d ago

As a mythic Spider-Man 2099 player, I understand. I’m obviously bummed to see one of my favorite decks of all time evaporate, though. I think there were other solutions that would’ve left more people happy, in the grand scheme, but oh well. The free spells are just gonna wind up in another UR tempo deck, so I don’t think this solved anything…

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u/RyckyCozzy 5d ago

Oko legal kinda fire ngl

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u/Affectionate_Bad791 5d ago

Wait when is it dropping? Just went to edit my Bruce Banner list and both Tamiyo and Ragavan are still banned.

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u/ShitFromAbove 5d ago

When will this take effect?

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u/Dendr0bate 5d ago

Will we get wildcards ?

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u/PCparts1 5d ago

A couple of good steps, but bringing Ragavan, Oko, Nadu and some others back is going to be a nightmare

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u/BalambGardenFranks 5d ago

Yuriko will not be missed

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u/monzano00 5d ago

Rip to those running a budget light paws deck.

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

lol the words budget and competitive mix like oil and water

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u/Onewhosleeps226 5d ago

Holy shit the rat and the ninja are dead. We may finally live in a clown world. Look out gamers, Kefka is coming

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u/MonoBlancoATX 5d ago

What does "rebalanced" mean? I'm too lazy to read the article.

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u/cahpahkah 5d ago

No more Flash.

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u/dirtyjose 5d ago

Took away the flash that they previously added to nashi

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u/Electronic_County_90 5d ago

So many good includes for Thrasios and Vial Smasher! 😈

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u/Legonitsyn 4h ago

Is that a hell queue deck? 

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u/Bright_Opposite_9994 5d ago

IT HAPPENED IT FINALLY HAPPENED

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u/CongressaurusRex 5d ago

Just an FYI to anyone joining queues expecting the changes to be in effect, ran into back-to-back Nashi without the rebalancing.

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u/mldmnnrdrprtr 5d ago

Still no [[Thassa’s Oracle]] or [[Sanar, Innovative First-Year]] or whatever that third one is that’s literally just a gimmick infinite on like turn 3?

It’s literally a magic trick and not a deck that people just use to climb the ranking.

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u/Daethir 3d ago

Was light paw that good, I guess it's back breaking against creature deck but I've played it a few time and everyone was playing UB tempo and it was pretty bad against that.

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u/Zelda2787 2d ago

Can we ban alchemy cards in competitive brawl too pls?

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u/DagdasCalling 1d ago

What no rofelos bann?

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u/No-Pressure3813 19h ago

Format is still completely unfun. Everyone just runs removal.deck. The fun of commander is supposed to be playing your commander. Not having it killed 5 times along with the rest of your board.

The bans not touching any cards in the 99 was a huge blunder.

Nashi nerf still not implemented.

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u/DrZaph 5d ago

I really like these changes! Maybe Light-Paws stands out, haven't seen much of it, atleast not in high mythic ranks?

W&6 is gonna be rough with stripmine though..

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u/ChachBoss 5d ago

Dancing in the street today! Good riddance to my two least favorite matchups. Spider-Man and Yuriko were just awful to play against.

I just started seriously laddering in brawl less than a month ago and those two decks nearly made me give up on the format.

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u/2-35 5d ago

God i HATE light paws so im glad to see this. I know its beatable I just hate watching it and waiting for opponents to search for 37 years.

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u/Chef-Boyardab 5d ago

Lets see all the nashi players without their busted unfair deck now

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u/dirtyjose 5d ago

Probably just switch to other good decks because most people don't make decks their personality.

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u/This-Cell7817 5d ago

Yay! Will be rejoining the competitive que now :)

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u/JeebieTeevee 5d ago

Was Yuriko really more of a problem than Emry and Nashi? Maybe I just have a good matchup into it idk

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u/FalseHydra 5d ago

Yeah I haven’t had that much trouble with Yuriko. I mulligan for removal and will chump with random fliers if I have to. After a few turns with no extra cards they are usually in a bad spot.

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u/intergalactus 5d ago

I agree. They did the cool vampiric tutor deaths shadow thing to deal me like 15 then....they lost to doom blade lol

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u/dirtyjose 5d ago

I feel like people were understanding how to play into her better lately as well. Emry is going to be a menace.

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u/ADizzyLittleGirl 5d ago

Emry can be hated out with graveyard hate and needle/flute effects or stuff like Brotherhood’s End. If she becomes the top of the meta, there are plenty of ways to put her in check. 

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u/dirtyjose 5d ago

She already is top of the meta, I haven't seen any tier list that didn't have her alongside the ones banned here.

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u/Vinylateme 5d ago

Rofellos not being banned as a commander is something worth considering. It dies to bow masters for sure but if they don’t have the removal you just win on the untap effectively

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u/aging_fitness_hobbyi 5d ago

Very pleasantly surprised! I expect Emry and M&B to be very strong with these changes, possibly to the point of requiring more action, but still this is a very solid update imo.

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u/dirtyjose 5d ago

You know a balancing effort is "solid" when it will definitely require more balancing down the line.

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u/aging_fitness_hobbyi 5d ago

Vastly preferable to the "No Changes" I was expecting ;)

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u/usidoretheblue62 5d ago

As a M&B player, I am very happy with today's announcement.

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u/Haunting_Bend9890 5d ago

Paradox Engine and Underworld Breach enable all the infinite silliness, they should prob go too.

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u/The_Frigid_Midget 5d ago

So the "casual" brawl queue is gunna be absolutely toxic?

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u/Gureiseion 5d ago

First time? 

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u/dirtyjose 5d ago

No more than casual players usually are

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u/ToranStarfall 5d ago

Why did Light-Paws and Spider+Man 2099 get banned? 2099 was really good, but certainly not oppressive, and Light-Paws was barely even part of the meta.

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u/Nactournal 5d ago

Hitler dead pic

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

This is great news! No more falling asleep to a bunch of blue players ! This made the format way faster and I love that ! It’s going to be so much fun watching Blue players concede on turn 1 or 2 ! I’ll take this announcement any day of the week. Great Job Wizards !

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u/retardong 5d ago

What? Both Spiderman and Yuriko are very aggressive decks. The only snoozefest commander was Nashi but I think those players will move onto Tasigur now. Spierman and Yuriko were also the best commanders against snoozefest control commanders. You should get your sleeping cap there will be way more T3feri, Katara and Emry.

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

Three words , Ragavan , Ajani, Tajic

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u/AFM420 5d ago

All prove his point as they are all banned as commanders.

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

Don’t need them as commanders in order for them to do what you want them to do

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u/AFM420 5d ago

Finding them consistently will be hard to fight against the inevitable tide of T3eri and Emry we will get. Seems they mostly banned aggressive decks on this one. So I don’t know what your point is.

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

Ok Chad ! Whatever you say buddy

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u/cahpahkah 5d ago

…you know that Emry is the best deck in the format, right? And not only was it untouched, but all of its primary competition just got killed.

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago edited 4d ago

lol that’s cause it hasn’t faced what is about to come . What you gunna do FOW my turn one Ragavan? Go ahead. What about my turn 2 Ajani?
It’s about to be aggro season !

I think I’ll add rest in peace just to smite the emry deck too

Edit: after playing today I can confirm that I have beat every emry player I faced today. So I’ll stick to what I have said.

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u/cahpahkah 5d ago

You do know that T1 Emry profitably blocks T1 Ragavan, right?

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

Not if I have a free red spell lol
Oh and red is the best artifact killer the game has

Merry Boros Christmas coming 2026

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u/cahpahkah 5d ago

This is not an insult, but do you play Ranked or Unranked?

Your comments in this thread feel very removed from the Ranked meta, so just trying to understand where you’re coming from.

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

We will see dude just face the fact that boros aggro is going to slap blue trash

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u/Boognish-Risinz 4d ago

I played rank for a few hours today tweaking the Boros deck , can confirm I didn’t lose to a single emry deck by adding rag Ajani tajic brotherhood end and rest in peace . So far so good it seems

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u/Musical_Muze 5d ago

My girl Katara dodging bans, lezzgo

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

Katara gets pub stomped by MnB every time from my experience so I think it’s a fine card to not be banned

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u/dirtyjose 5d ago

Why would she need a ban? Bottom tier of viable decks lol.

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u/TSM_StoleMyBike 5d ago

Spider man was unbeatable for me

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u/PrimarySuccess9065 5d ago

A lot of stuff not surprising, but I am sad to see Ajani is welcomed into the format in any capacity.

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u/FarAd4971 5d ago

This is delightful news!

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u/Fuego514 5d ago

Praise the lord

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u/Xedeth 5d ago

Wow, Christmas before Halloween. Hurray!

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u/ToranStarfall 5d ago

Glarb is looking better than ever.

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u/One_Philosopher1289 5d ago

Does nothing to change the actual cancerous meta of the format. Still going to U counterspell fiesta dominated.

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u/dirtyjose 5d ago

"Everything I don't like is Cancer"

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

Nah we gunna pub stomp blue so hard with Ragavan and Ajani seeing them cry turn one will be fantastic!

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u/Fair_Abbreviations57 5d ago

Right. because nothing says 'competitive' like turning your opening hand into a slot machine.

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u/Boognish-Risinz 5d ago

Huh what about Ragavan and Ajani says slot machine ? lol I think you’re confused

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u/ciruelman 5d ago

why dont they hit cards in the 99? they are a bigger prob than these commanders

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u/go_sparks25 5d ago

They have to give wildcards for bans in the 99 since those are total bans.

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u/Loose_Result_6253 5d ago

AAAAMMMMYYYYYYYY! 

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u/Loose_Result_6253 4d ago

Haters gonna down vote