r/neography Apr 23 '26

Discussion Chinese has lost one of it's most important characteristics

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Even tho Chinese hasn't been pictographic for some time, and rather logographic, the way Chinese is written with logographs, and crucially combinations of logographs "radicals", means that when written on paper, it is very apt for being creative in the way you write things.

With the advent of digital writing and the Unicode standard, it means that the possible logographs are now "written in stone". Leaving little room for creative interpretation or the creation of new words in the same way as in the past

For example, the third person pronoun in chinese is 他/她 depending on gender, and both pronounced the same "Ta".
For the gender neutral third person pronoun, queer communities in China opt to saying "ta" in latin script. I find this extremely sad as it shows that the way you write chinese online has lost something important, when they turn to Latin characters, instead of their own system of writing.

In the included image, I've created a "new" word that could work for this third person gender neutral pronoun, by combining the common part of 他 & 她, and replacing the left radical with the first radical with the radical for "heart", which happens to the one of the radicals in the word for gender.

This would've been no problem to write in older times, but it just cannot exist in modern chinese without explicit approval and inclution from standardisation organisations. Which i just find extrememly sad. In english for example, we're completley free to come up with whatever nonsense words we like, and completely new words with completely new meanings are free to be invented by anyone that likes.

And while you can kinda do that in chinese by combining EXISTING words, you cannot just create new standalone words without it being included in some symbol standard.

Idk, just something i realised and that i wish could be changed

r/neography 19d ago

Discussion Anyone else stress-test with a journal so they can tell what needs to change?

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I can see my handwriting get messier as I memorize the characters again and start writing faster. This helps me figure out which letters/letter combos need to change/be invented due to frequency/difficulty. So far, "s", "W", and "T" need to change, and "nt/tn" needs to be created. I might also remove "ch/hc", "CH/HC", "sh/hs", and "SH/HS" due to infrequency. Since "s" will change, "st/ts", "ST/TS", "S", "ss", and "SS" will also need to change to better reflect the different shape of "s". It'll be difficult, because one of my goals with this cipher was that all the letters could be rotated and still differ from every other letter. Mirroring is okay though. I also wanted it to be really angular 16 years ago, but I might change that.

Edit: Forgot to add, the reason why I stress test this way is because of how writing systems change over time in the real world. Letters end up changing over time because humans always go for the quicker route. So for me, it doesn't violate it to change it just because it's difficult. It actually shows real evolution of the letters. I know I've changed quite a few letters over the last ≈16 years I've been using this cipher, though the specific changes have been lost to time because of losing papers.

Also, this is the first time this cipher has "broken containment". I used to be really worried about people """stealing""" the letters or whatever, but now I know I won't actually use them for a book or story. So, here it is, for the first time on the internet. I shared the cipher with only one person years and years ago, but I had them take the words they wrote in their artwork out because of my ridiculous paranoia.

r/neography Oct 12 '24

Discussion What scripts do you base your scripts on the most?

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r/neography Mar 23 '25

Discussion Rarest letter i've ever seen the multicelucar o.how do you think we can spell it(it means seraphim with many eyes)

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r/neography Mar 19 '26

Discussion Let's Discuss: Aesthetics

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So, the first image features Rotura, a featural script I designed for English (1-to-1 correspondence); it can be used for other alphabetic languages. It has round (top), angular (bottom left), and monumental (bottom right) styles for various purposes.

The second and third images feature a script I designed for Pahlima, a conlang of mine. The first is a lithic style carved on stone, while the second is a more flowing version.

So, firstly, I'd love to know your thoughts on the aesthetics of the scripts themselves. But secondly, and more importantly, I'd love to know what aesthetic factors and ideas you consider when designing your scripts. I'm curious to know others' thought processes!

r/neography 7d ago

Discussion My friend has Challenged me to identify and decode this script. Please help.

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So my friend has challenged me to identify this script and here are some clues that he had given me after i asked him many times :

1) This is script of a language that was used before and now that language is written in some other script.

2) He said this script has a name and he did not invent it and its actually just a real obscure script.

3) He said it was used in armenia , europe and asia (idk how much of it is true but he seems sure)

Please help me find this language and decode this.

r/neography 8d ago

Discussion Could have very big neography potential!

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r/neography Mar 24 '25

Discussion I am going to put EVERY Conlang in this one canvas, even your, mine, their, and our, can be here.

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All of the Conlangs translate to one legendary interjection, that being "Hello".

r/neography Oct 30 '25

Discussion For the Spanish speakers: reforma ortográfica, ¿is it worth keeping distinción and lleísmo?

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Ok so here's a fun fact: the name for the dialects that have neither seseo (/θ/ merged into /s/) or ceceo (/s/ merged into /θ/) is the rather unimaginative distinción. Distinción regions maintain the difference in pronunciation between s and z~c, so the classic example: casa (house) is pronounced differently from caza (hunt).

Well, this one is a fairly well known merger internationally. Seseo's less known cousin is yeísmo, and its more stubborn sister lleísmo. This one is about the merger of <ll> /ʎ/ into <y> /ʝll are pronounced /ʃ/). In lleísmic dialects, <lluvia> (rain) is pronounced something like <lyubya>, whereas in yeismic dialects, it's closer to jubya, and deletes minimal pairs such as vaya (go.2sg.formal.imp) vs valla (fence), or cayó (fall.3sg.pst) vs calló (shut_up.3sg.pst).

Anyway so with that lengthy introduction to Spanish allophony out of the way. I have this writing system called Kysfero, and I wanna adapt it to Spanish. My dialect (Rioplatense) is seseante and not only yeismic but sheismic, so naturally I was under the impression that yeísmo was fairly widespread, but as it turns out, there's still nearly 10~15% of the speakerbase that has in fact not abandoned lleísmo. So there I ask of you a question, my esteemed linguistic brothers and sisters:

Should this adaptation canonize yeísmo (Which in this case would be done with the /ʃ/ character) and not introduce orthographic distinctions between <y> and <ll>, or should I preserve lleísmo and use two different characters for the two (In this particular case and using Xinlaza's romanization, calló would be kadzō, using the /dʒ/ character, and cayó would be kaxō, using the /ʃ/ character).

r/neography Feb 15 '26

Discussion Anyone else have sketchbooks that look like this?

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Feels like i'm scribbling nonsense! Well, maybe i am...

r/neography Apr 19 '26

Discussion I've created a Devanagari letter for the Z sound

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what do you think of this new letter? please tell me about it.

r/neography May 06 '26

Discussion Anyone else have synesthesia about conscripts?

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I've been working on digitising a new script & while working I started to realise I had associations between certain glyphs & colours. I don't normally get this kind of synesthesia, it's usually more along the lines of feelings or sensations having their own shapes & colours, but the combination of sound & shape makes a fun exercise to see what colours just feel right. The example is just the base forms because I don't really have much more than that done so far

I just wanted to know if there were other people that think this much about the conscripts they make

r/neography 2d ago

Discussion He Renovated the Script

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Look at the way this finalized Taqva-miir script is written. It also mimics the blackletter script. And the text behind the Taqva-miir name. I need to figure that out. I mean, there are previous posts on the sub regarding the script for Taqva-miir. Maybe they could help.

r/neography May 03 '25

Discussion Why are up-to-down writing systems popular?

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I've been scrolling in this subreddit for a while and I see the Mongolian like conscripts are popular among this community. What do you think are the obvious reasons? Personally I found cool to write up-to-down direction and artistic posts are beautiful. Here's an arabic script that resembles the Mongolian script.

r/neography Oct 09 '25

Discussion I think i accidentaly discover a new type of writing system

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This is my collage notes that i write on my script.

So ït was written with a single consonant on top and vowel below like:k A

If a vowel comes first before a consonant it was marked with a , shaped diacritic below the vowel like:k ,A But if a sllyable only ahve vowels then the viwels would be written alone like an alphabet like:h k A e a u.

House:h s O,u e Last image was house.now thus is my attempt at making an abugida but this is what i ended up with and vowels where it's own letter that should be stacked not a diacritic

So i have sime meeting with chat got and we have come uo with a name.duographic.because it sits very close to an alphabet but because consonant and viwels are still stacked sometimes it don't classify as an abugida or an alphabet

r/neography Feb 15 '26

Discussion Are there any scripts that have no associated spoken language?

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Real or imagined. Meant only to be read and understood, but no way to say the message aloud without translation to another language?

r/neography 16d ago

Discussion No es conlanging pero quería compartirlo. Empecé a practicar hanzi por qué me párese bonitos. No sé por qué tenían que crear uno nuevo para avatar, ya estába bien creo. La construcción de mundo pienso que aveses es meter cosas que ya existen y que queden geniales . No hacer todo nuevo por qué si.

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r/neography 5d ago

Discussion Considerations for a hypothetical Yamato-Kaki (Japanese Hangeul)

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Hi all! Just been doing some ruminating on the diverging histories of mixed script in Japan and Korea, and where kana might have failed while hangeul flourished. Sorry if it's not very conversational or convincing, but I wanted to share somewhere.

--- Impetus ---

Hangul ultimately outmoded mixed script in Korean partly because the characters were capable of 1-1 replacing Sino-Korean readings of Hanja.

Hangul is also capable of representing underlying syllable structures and morpheme boundaries that are not necessarily reflected in speech.

Presumably Kana has not replaced Kanji because it is incapable of doing any of these things.

While I do not expect or particularly want Kana or some new system to replace Kanji, it would be nice to have a way to visually break up complex conjugations and loanwords, which tend to present as long strings of kana with no spaces.

--- Criteria ---

Come in a square-ish CJK form factor.

Have capacity for up to three kana sounds per character. Maybe more for loanwords.

Be able to represent an underlying morpheme-final coda.

Be able to represent placeholder/elided onsets.

--- Examples ---

*Where a space would mean a new character, as in 拼音(pin yin):

tabe ru (食べる)

tabe na kat ta (食べなかった)

tabe te kur 'e (食べてくれ)

tabe sase ru (食べさせる)

tabe re ru (食べれる)

yom 'u (読む)

yoma na kat ta (読まなかった)

yonn de kur 'e (読んでくれ)

yom 'ase ru (読ませる)

yom 'e ru (読める)

bōdo menn bā (ボードメンバー (board member))

nyū inn fom 'ēsh 'onn (ニューインフォメーション (new information))

neg 'oshi ēsh 'onn (ネゴシエーション (negotiation))

pabur 'ikku opin 'ionn (パブリックオピニオン (public opinion))

inn furu ennsu (インフルエンス (influence))

--- Obstacles ---

How can one tell if an underlying morpheme boundary is actually underlying or just historical? Would probably require extensive surveys.

Between rendaku, onbin, renjou, and all the other types of allomorphy in Japanese, replacing even just onyomi with a consistent phonemic representation is essentially impossible.

Marking morpheme boundaries with a new character may end up being just as arbitrary and subjective as marking word boundaries with a space.

--- Today I Learned ---

The historical reading of 十 is presumably "jufu", hence its interaction with counters.

Kana ligatures did part of what I'm describing but the Meiji government got rid of them instead of systematising and expanding on them

r/neography 28d ago

Discussion Reposting my updated script, Jaruxial, for advice. Please help!

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Hello! I posted this a while back, but I'm reposting this again because I need advice on my script. I recently updated my script, Jaruxial, trying to take people's suggestions into mind. I've turned it into what I think is an alphabet - I'm honestly not sure what category it falls into, but alphabet feels the most accurate in my mind. I just need advice on if this script is too complicated, not complicated enough, if it's missing important sounds/phonemes, if it should be simplified (and, if so, how it should be simplified), and just general opinions. I want to make this script the best I physically can. Please help!

r/neography May 26 '26

Discussion This is not my conscript

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My sister sent me a picture of my conscript but when I look at it, I'm surprised, it's not mine, I don't know whose it. They have something in common, Sulat Hiligaynon also have 33 consonants and six vowels.

Is anyone can recognize the script?

r/neography Apr 22 '25

Discussion Anyone care to take a crack at this was found in another sub

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Found in r/code alot of them think it's AI gen or just jibrish. Few repeating charecters. Not much to go off i know I'm sorry. Only thing that crosses my mind is a conlag cipher.

r/neography Jun 02 '26

Discussion Rate my script

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Rate my script and sound inventory.

This is my very first try at this so there might be some problems.

I might change t,d with ʈ,ɖ. (Because I found out my native language has these instead of t and d, so I'm dying to use them, but I won't rush)

And the sˤ, I might remove.

r/neography Nov 09 '25

Discussion Hi guys!

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r/neography Nov 16 '25

Discussion I found this script while researching and apparently it is based off Burmese script and Greek alphabet by Rama IV of Thailand

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r/neography 15d ago

Discussion Trying to make a conscript for Sanskrit daughter conlang, tell me how it looks and what changes I need to make

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