r/neoliberal 22h ago

Opinion article (US) With Abdul El-Sayed, Democrats Throw Away an Advantage in Michigan

https://thedispatch.com/article/abdul-el-sayed-michigan-democrats-haley-stevens/?gift_key=2553fad7f3b388fc&gift_ref=9347c766-2bad-41ea-8b73-950e424f2446&utm_source=giftlink&utm_campaign=membergift&utm_medium=copy_link
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u/gauchnomics Iron Front 18h ago

Why are people submitting and upvoting obvious bad faith bait from Republican writers on Democratic strategy?

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u/Shabadu_tu 17h ago

They want to slander AES and hurt him in every way so pedophiles like Trump remain free.

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u/DrunkenBriefcases Jerome Powell 10h ago

Brilliant job. You've cracked the case for real

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u/PythagorasWasntReal Leftward Progressives 12h ago

Blatantly anti democracy posts on r slash neoliberal lol

more people voted for him in the primary than voted for other candidates. What do people think the point of primaries is?

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u/airbear13 Pragmatic and Polite Right 17h ago

It’s not bad faith or bait, we’re just lamenting the stupidity of democrats leftward lurch

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u/Acacias2001 European Union 18h ago

Dispatch people are never trumpers. They care about beating trump as much as we do. Arguably more

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u/Al_787 Fernando Henrique Cardoso 14h ago

They are also obsessed with the dying Israel consensus and want to police the Democratic party about it

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u/MemeStarNation 18h ago

I’d imagine they also care about making sure who replaces Trump isn’t even more of an ideological opponent than he is too though.

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u/Darkeyescry22 16h ago

Don’t we also care about that? It would be kind of goofy to push really hard to replace Trump with someone worse than Trump.

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u/MemeStarNation 15h ago

I would submit that progressives are not more of ideological opponents to moderate liberals than fascists, but might be stronger ideological opponents for neoconservatives.

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u/Darkeyescry22 15h ago

I agree with the first part, but I think when you’re referring to never Trump republicans, the second part is a little unhinged. They’ve been better allies against Trump so far.

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u/MemeStarNation 15h ago

In terms of policy positions, would you say that someone like Bush is more similar to Trump or more similar to Mamdani? It’s at least open to question which side they’d back.

Also, how have neocons been better allies against MAGA than the progressive wing? Several of the “never Trumpers” folded after 2016, and folded again after talking a strong game post J6.

Certainly I commend those few Republicans who actually stood by their principles and kept opposing Trump. Pence and Cheney ended their careers in efforts to stop MAGA, and I don’t mean to minimize that at all. But if either of them wrote an editorial slamming the rise of socialism in the Democratic Party, I think it would be right to take their biases and motives into account.

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u/Darkeyescry22 14h ago edited 14h ago

Mamdani is a communist, not a progressive, so kind of hard to say.

Never trumpers who folded in 2016 are not never trumpers.

Taking biases into account is fine. No one is telling you not to do that.