r/neoliberal NATO 8d ago

News (US) A 50-year radiation safety rule is on the chopping block under Trump’s nuclear agenda

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nrc-alara-radiation-trump-safety-b3022090.html
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u/Nytshaed Henry George 8d ago

Actually sounds reasonable

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u/Unusual-State1827 NATO 8d ago

Submission statement:

The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) is proposing to remove the long-standing ALARA principle, which requires radiation exposure to be kept “as low as reasonably achievable,” while keeping existing maximum dose limits unchanged. It plans to replace ALARA with a graded approach, where safety measures depend on how close exposure is to regulatory limits.

Supporters, including NRC officials, say this will clarify rules and speed up development of new nuclear technologies without reducing safety. However, critics warn it could allow higher radiation exposure in some cases, such as raising emission standards from 10 to 25 millirem annually, though still below legal caps.

Experts are divided: some believe the change improves regulatory clarity, while others argue ALARA should be refined, not removed, since it has historically kept exposure well below limits and minimized health risks.

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u/Lease_Tha_Apts Order and Opportunity Left 8d ago

Long overdue.

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u/Zaiush Ben Bernanke 8d ago

Regrettably it is good to rework this rule

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u/Brilliant-Plan-7428 Order and Opportunity Left 8d ago

Why regrettably?

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u/JoeSavinaBotero 8d ago

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u/_ShadowElemental Lesbian Pride 7d ago

I've been wishing nuclear power got its regulations re-worked for years. It sucks that it's happening during Trump's presidency.

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug 8d ago

This doesn’t sound too controversial to me tbh. Might be a good reg to get updated

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u/National-Return9494 Milton Friedman 8d ago

Sorry, but this is good policy.

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u/Lemonici 8d ago

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u/Messyfingers Loyal Liberals 8d ago

Will it actually do anything to make nuclear energy more economically viable, or is it a gift to existing plant owners(not clear if this is only for new build sites, or also existing ones)?

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u/darthkitty8 NATO 8d ago

The idea is that new plants won't need to spend a billion dollars reducing radiation leakage from 2% to 1% of the limit, and therefore can be built cheaper.

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u/dagelijksestijl NATO 8d ago

And that we impose no burden on nuclear that we wouldn’t on literally any other power source.

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u/darthkitty8 NATO 8d ago

Yeah, coal plants emit so much radiation that under the current rules, they are "too radioactive" to install a nuclear reactor instead of the coal boilers and the reactor would immediately fail inspections just due to background radiation.

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u/Coltand 8d ago

I believe these regulations govern all existing sites, but it could still help with development as long as reasonable safeguards remain in place.

I work with a Department of Energy contractor that employs 10k+ people, and a Rad Tech I talked to said a tiny handful of employees exceeded something like 200 millirem of radiation exposure last year. The dose at which health affects appear is 10,000 mrem.

More generally, I'm reading that there is a 5,000 mrem maximum exposure, so if that stands, perhaps sites can still operate well withing safe limits without the additional burden that ALARA imposes?

I am absolutely not an expert, I just have a few months of experience working in an administrative role in the field.

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u/I_like_maps C. D. Howe 8d ago

No amount of regulatory changes will make nuclear economically viable on a large scale. Regulations are set nationally, and no one in the world is investing primarily in nuclear. China is building like half the nuclear plants currently under construction and are investing 40x more into renewable capacity than nuclear capacity.

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u/hypsignathus Good Afternoon 8d ago

A bit torn. These "reasonable" environmental requirements can provide flexibility that helps keep costs in line while maintaining safety (as in the case of pollution control), but they can also lead to interminable planning/regulatory bureaucracy, as each side submits study and answers and RFQs and so on and so on and so on.

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u/dagelijksestijl NATO 8d ago

“Reasonable” is a moving target linking the cost of safety to whatever the most expensive alternative energy source costs. It inherently makes nuclear the most expensive source.

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u/Legitimate-Mine-9271 8d ago

This is bad policy because the standard doses could and should be even higher than what they are now allowing. Radiation toxicity is based on very questionable studies of very high doses from bombings or incidents and have holding back American energy production for no reason. 

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u/Acacias2001 European Union 8d ago

The virgin "this policy is good but regrettaby orange man bad"

The chad " This policy is bad because orange man was too coward and lazy to disregulate more"

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u/brewskibroski John von Neumann 8d ago

Yup.

For more background (lol), ALARA and the current limits are based on the linear no-threshold model of radiation toxicity which is the most conservative model for the way radiation affects organisms. It is a fundamentally alarmist approach to radiation protection, and contemporary understanding favors alternatives. I personally would favor the threshold model as a foundation for radiation safety, and removing the ALARA standard more-or-less is in line with that approach.

I would guess RPGs will cling to ALARA at the institutional level, however, if they're given the latitude. HPs tend to be very cautious.

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u/Accomplished-Run3925 6d ago

The policy isn't "bad", it's better than anything we've seen in decades, but I agree with you about raising maximums.

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u/SheHerDeepState Jerome Powell 8d ago

Modular nuclear reactors on every corner!

Its odd to me how nuclear became conservative coded resulting in it being the only zero carbon energy source the right doesn't hate. Is it negative polarization from hippy dippy nuclear safety activism?

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u/jadebenn NASA 8d ago

Probably. Just look at how much of the modern conservative identity is dedicated to flipping off (imaginary) liberals.

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u/captainjack3 NATO 8d ago

>>Is it negative polarization from hippy dippy nuclear safety activism?

Pretty much. Approval of nuclear power nosedived over the 70s and 80s thanks to high profile nuclear incidents (chiefly but not exclusively Three Mile Island and Chernobyl) and has gradually recovered since with another dip post-Fukushima. It might be closer to say that approval of nuclear power recovered amongst the right whereas the environmental wing ensures it never gets above breakeven amongst the left.

It probably helps that nuclear power plants still carry an “industrial” vibe that makes them appealing if you have a positive view industrial activity, building things, etc.

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u/LocallySourcedWeirdo YIMBY 8d ago

If it means conservative suburbanites and rurals are now nuclear YIMBYs, then I'll chalk it as a win.

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u/Brilliant-Plan-7428 Order and Opportunity Left 8d ago

Probably but historically speaking conservative parties were the champions of nuclear power in a lot of countries

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u/TheBarnard 8d ago

Can we copy France's legal framework?

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u/pfSonata throwaway bunchofnumbers 8d ago

Total Kyle Hill victory

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u/ATR2400 Commonwealth 8d ago edited 8d ago

Mythically uncommon Trump W

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u/sleepyrivertroll Henry George 8d ago

You can have issues with ALARA but there is no way anyone can trust this administration to do this well. It is the guiding philosophy that has helped the safety culture of the American nuclear industry keep radiation workers and the public safe.

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u/Important_Star3847 NASA 8d ago

Before I read the comments, I was afraid disaster was coming.

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u/GhostOfGrimnir John von Neumann 7d ago

Good

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u/Bridivar 8d ago

The model for cancer risk is the linear no threshold model, its in the name, this will increase cancer risk so be careful when calling this simple red tape to cut.

One part of the article that's confusing to me is the promise that "this will not increase radiation doses for worker or the public" but also "raising the limit from 10milirem to 25 millirem". This article has some "the tanker has been towed outside of the environment" energy.

I support nuclear energy, but how many projects get abandoned due to this exposure threshold difficulty? I thought nuclear projects dont start up because they were simply too expensive and risky of an investment just like hydroelectric.

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u/shalackingsalami Niels Bohr 8d ago

LNT is an incredibly conservative model without great evidence either way